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Trump seemed to make his first real attempt to act like a normal politician yesterday and be slightly more humble. If he does well in the debates, which I think is a real possibility, this could at least be a close election. I think Hillary's strategy of just letting Trump implode upon himself has been sound up until now. But political momentum can turn on a dime, and she carries so much baggage that her disillusioned votes may stay home on election day.

Scary choices for America.


How can Trump wins a debate? By style points. It definitely won't be substance.


By turning his competitors into bumbling idiots. Did you not watch the RNC debates?


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Ever since Nixon's fatuous five-oclock shadow lost to JFK's photogenic physiognomy, style has always trumped substance in Presidential debates.


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Trump seemed to make his first real attempt to act like a normal politician yesterday and be slightly more humble. If he does well in the debates, which I think is a real possibility, this could at least be a close election. I think Hillary's strategy of just letting Trump implode upon himself has been sound up until now. But political momentum can turn on a dime, and she carries so much baggage that her disillusioned votes may stay home on election day.

Scary choices for America.


How can Trump wins a debate? By style points. It definitely won't be substance.


He beat out plenty of Republicans.

My experience with friends and family is that they hate Hillary. They are trying to convince themselves that Trump is the answer. If he comes off as somewhat reasonable while Hillary looks poor, then these folks will swing his way. Neither candidate has any substance. I mean Hillary supported TPP and now she doesn't. I know she will support it once in office.

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Ever since Nixon's fatuous five-oclock shadow lost to JFK's photogenic physiognomy, style has always trumped substance in Presidential debates.


Exactly. Most folks aren't voting on substance. They are voting on appearances- is he/she tough, will they stand up the Chinese, can they bring back jobs? If the candidates got into the wonky policy debates, the voters' eyes would glaze over.

"The global U.S. income tax regime is causing corporations to take advantage of the perpetual deferral of federal taxation by parking money in foreign subsidiaries. If we move to a territorial system, all of that money will flow back into the U.S. causing a mini domestic investment boom. Companies will stop inverting, and add jobs in their U.S. operations. It will remove the vast distortions of capital flows across borders." Yeah right. Clink off.

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Trump was able to beat a group that divided the vote amongst themselves. Scott Walker was the person that got it right by dropping out early. They should have settled on one candidate to serve as the counter to Trump.

He is not going to win debates by using one liners and zingers. I'm really hoping that Hillary unleashes her inner bitch. I want her to light his ass up. There is a lot out there to absolutely hammer Trump on. Their opposition research team is just sitting on it because she is comfortably ahead. If it gets close the fangs come out.

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Trump seemed to make his first real attempt to act like a normal politician yesterday and be slightly more humble. If he does well in the debates, which I think is a real possibility, this could at least be a close election. I think Hillary's strategy of just letting Trump implode upon himself has been sound up until now. But political momentum can turn on a dime, and she carries so much baggage that her disillusioned votes may stay home on election day.

Scary choices for America.


How can Trump wins a debate? By style points. It definitely won't be substance.


By turning his competitors into bumbling idiots. Did you not watch the RNC debates?


The difference is they were in agreement on most issues and everyone but Cruz was a poor debater. He never had a 1 on 1 debate either.

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I can't wait for the debates because it should be good political theater.

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Trump seemed to make his first real attempt to act like a normal politician yesterday and be slightly more humble. If he does well in the debates, which I think is a real possibility, this could at least be a close election. I think Hillary's strategy of just letting Trump implode upon himself has been sound up until now. But political momentum can turn on a dime, and she carries so much baggage that her disillusioned votes may stay home on election day.

Scary choices for America.


How can Trump wins a debate? By style points. It definitely won't be substance.


He beat out plenty of Republicans.

My experience with friends and family is that they hate Hillary. They are trying to convince themselves that Trump is the answer. If he comes off as somewhat reasonable while Hillary looks poor, then these folks will swing his way. Neither candidate has any substance. I mean Hillary supported TPP and now she doesn't. I know she will support it once in office.


Hillary knows the issues better than ANYONE in politics.

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Nas wrote:
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Trump seemed to make his first real attempt to act like a normal politician yesterday and be slightly more humble. If he does well in the debates, which I think is a real possibility, this could at least be a close election. I think Hillary's strategy of just letting Trump implode upon himself has been sound up until now. But political momentum can turn on a dime, and she carries so much baggage that her disillusioned votes may stay home on election day.

Scary choices for America.


How can Trump wins a debate? By style points. It definitely won't be substance.


Will he even show up to the debates? He already planted that seed by saying the debate schedule is rigged.

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nero must be the self-styled 'Dangerous burrito'/Milo Yiannopoulos whom twitter perma-banned:

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Hah, yeah her and Paul Ryan equally in my mind. But knowing the issues and putting out plans to fix the issues are two very different things.

What is her position on Free Trade? I mean she was part of the NAFTA push and involved and supported the TPP stuff in the Obama administration. Now she is against TPP, which by the way, does not involve China. What's more the Atlantic version of TPP with Europe is well advanced too. This is a real issue that will come up in the next administration.

She has no corporate tax program. Obama has one to lower the rates and fix the issue. Trump has one.

She has just as much fluff as Trump. I just know she will take the middle road once in office. She is trying to keep quiet to hold onto the left base, while being a complete corporatist and do deals on Free Trade and tax reform among other things.

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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Trump seemed to make his first real attempt to act like a normal politician yesterday and be slightly more humble. If he does well in the debates, which I think is a real possibility, this could at least be a close election. I think Hillary's strategy of just letting Trump implode upon himself has been sound up until now. But political momentum can turn on a dime, and she carries so much baggage that her disillusioned votes may stay home on election day.

Scary choices for America.


How can Trump wins a debate? By style points. It definitely won't be substance.


He beat out plenty of Republicans.

My experience with friends and family is that they hate Hillary. They are trying to convince themselves that Trump is the answer. If he comes off as somewhat reasonable while Hillary looks poor, then these folks will swing his way. Neither candidate has any substance. I mean Hillary supported TPP and now she doesn't. I know she will support it once in office.


Hillary knows the issues better than ANYONE in politics.


Umm, yeah, the problem isn't her lack of knowledge; rather, it's her lack of judgment and character that's so troubling.

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Fuggetabout whether hrc17@'s supporters will make it to the polls on Election Day, will she? Dr Drew's taken it upon himself to take over as her unsolicited personal physician; celebs under his care have a higher mortality rate than ebola monkeys at the CDC. Dr Drew = serial celebrity killer


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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Trump seemed to make his first real attempt to act like a normal politician yesterday and be slightly more humble. If he does well in the debates, which I think is a real possibility, this could at least be a close election. I think Hillary's strategy of just letting Trump implode upon himself has been sound up until now. But political momentum can turn on a dime, and she carries so much baggage that her disillusioned votes may stay home on election day.

Scary choices for America.


How can Trump wins a debate? By style points. It definitely won't be substance.


He beat out plenty of Republicans.

My experience with friends and family is that they hate Hillary. They are trying to convince themselves that Trump is the answer. If he comes off as somewhat reasonable while Hillary looks poor, then these folks will swing his way. Neither candidate has any substance. I mean Hillary supported TPP and now she doesn't. I know she will support it once in office.


Hillary knows the issues better than ANYONE in politics.

:lol:

She's flown to a lot of places and met MANY foreign leaders.
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Hillary knows the issues better than ANYONE in politics.


Umm, yeah, the problem isn't her lack of knowledge; rather, it's her lack of judgment and character that's so troubling.

I kind of feel like that could be the slogan for the 2016 election: A TROUBLING LACK OF JUDGEMENT AND CHARACTER: TRUMP V. CLINTON

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Hah, yeah her and Paul Ryan equally in my mind. But knowing the issues and putting out plans to fix the issues are two very different things.

What is her position on Free Trade? I mean she was part of the NAFTA push and involved and supported the TPP stuff in the Obama administration. Now she is against TPP, which by the way, does not involve China. What's more the Atlantic version of TPP with Europe is well advanced too. This is a real issue that will come up in the next administration.

She has no corporate tax program. Obama has one to lower the rates and fix the issue. Trump has one.

She has just as much fluff as Trump. I just know she will take the middle road once in office. She is trying to keep quiet to hold onto the left base, while being a complete corporatist and do deals on Free Trade and tax reform among other things.


Her convention speech addressed a number of her policy positions. She adapted a number of Sanders positions which I honestly believed that she lied about.

Anyone familiar with her work over the years will be able to separate the fluff from her real stances on the issues.

Her presidency will be primarily the 3rd term that Bill never had. She will govern in that way. If you thought his Presidency was a success then fine. If you didn't then oh well.

How exactly is a Trump presidency not going to be a sellout to corporate interests? No one ever quite addresses that part in all this?

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how can you question the political judgment of someone who's closest political confidant is the better half of this couple:

"On July 10, 2010, Huma Abedin married then-Congressman Anthony Weiner. Former President Bill Clinton performed the wedding ceremony."

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how can you question the political judgment of someone who's closest political confidant is the better half of this couple:

"On July 10, 2010, Huma Abedin married then-Congressman Anthony Weiner. Former President Bill Clinton performed the wedding ceremony."

http://nypost.com/2016/08/14/anthony-we ... p-sexting/


Huma Abedin, now there's a name that doesn't get discussed much.
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Hah, yeah her and Paul Ryan equally in my mind. But knowing the issues and putting out plans to fix the issues are two very different things.

What is her position on Free Trade? I mean she was part of the NAFTA push and involved and supported the TPP stuff in the Obama administration. Now she is against TPP, which by the way, does not involve China. What's more the Atlantic version of TPP with Europe is well advanced too. This is a real issue that will come up in the next administration.

She has no corporate tax program. Obama has one to lower the rates and fix the issue. Trump has one.

She has just as much fluff as Trump. I just know she will take the middle road once in office. She is trying to keep quiet to hold onto the left base, while being a complete corporatist and do deals on Free Trade and tax reform among other things.


Her convention speech addressed a number of her policy positions. She adapted a number of Sanders positions which I honestly believed that she lied about.

Anyone familiar with her work over the years will be able to separate the fluff from her real stances on the issues.

Her presidency will be primarily the 3rd term that Bill never had. She will govern in that way. If you thought his Presidency was a success then fine. If you didn't then oh well.

How exactly is a Trump presidency not going to be a sellout to corporate interests? No one ever quite addresses that part in all this?


Hillary and Bill have been selling out America to corporate and foreign interests for years.

So at least we won't have to argue about it.


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Weiner and his connection to the current Presidential race via Huma's BFF relationship with Hillary is the best thing to happen to Democratic politics since Billy Carter.

Weiner dude convinced Huma to be in this documentary 'WEINER'. It's batshit insane:

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/201 ... chologists


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denisdman wrote:
Hah, yeah her and Paul Ryan equally in my mind. But knowing the issues and putting out plans to fix the issues are two very different things.

What is her position on Free Trade? I mean she was part of the NAFTA push and involved and supported the TPP stuff in the Obama administration. Now she is against TPP, which by the way, does not involve China. What's more the Atlantic version of TPP with Europe is well advanced too. This is a real issue that will come up in the next administration.

She has no corporate tax program. Obama has one to lower the rates and fix the issue. Trump has one.

She has just as much fluff as Trump. I just know she will take the middle road once in office. She is trying to keep quiet to hold onto the left base, while being a complete corporatist and do deals on Free Trade and tax reform among other things.


Her convention speech addressed a number of her policy positions. She adapted a number of Sanders positions which I honestly believed that she lied about.

Anyone familiar with her work over the years will be able to separate the fluff from her real stances on the issues.

Her presidency will be primarily the 3rd term that Bill never had. She will govern in that way. If you thought his Presidency was a success then fine. If you didn't then oh well.

How exactly is a Trump presidency not going to be a sellout to corporate interests? No one ever quite addresses that part in all this?


Hillary and Bill have been selling out America to corporate and foreign interests for years.

So at least we won't have to argue about it.

Did someone say selling America out to foreign interests????

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denisdman wrote:
Nas wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Trump seemed to make his first real attempt to act like a normal politician yesterday and be slightly more humble. If he does well in the debates, which I think is a real possibility, this could at least be a close election. I think Hillary's strategy of just letting Trump implode upon himself has been sound up until now. But political momentum can turn on a dime, and she carries so much baggage that her disillusioned votes may stay home on election day.

Scary choices for America.


How can Trump wins a debate? By style points. It definitely won't be substance.


He beat out plenty of Republicans.

My experience with friends and family is that they hate Hillary. They are trying to convince themselves that Trump is the answer. If he comes off as somewhat reasonable while Hillary looks poor, then these folks will swing his way. Neither candidate has any substance. I mean Hillary supported TPP and now she doesn't. I know she will support it once in office.


Hillary knows the issues better than ANYONE in politics.


Umm, yeah, the problem isn't her lack of knowledge; rather, it's her lack of judgment and character that's so troubling.


She's never really been in charge.

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what embalmer did Manafort's makeup.

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Looks like Daddy just landed in Lousiana...sure the left will hammer it as pandering, but he should drop a $11M check for the 11,000 that are staying in shelters right now....mic drop

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SomeGuy wrote:
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Hah, yeah her and Paul Ryan equally in my mind. But knowing the issues and putting out plans to fix the issues are two very different things.

What is her position on Free Trade? I mean she was part of the NAFTA push and involved and supported the TPP stuff in the Obama administration. Now she is against TPP, which by the way, does not involve China. What's more the Atlantic version of TPP with Europe is well advanced too. This is a real issue that will come up in the next administration.

She has no corporate tax program. Obama has one to lower the rates and fix the issue. Trump has one.

She has just as much fluff as Trump. I just know she will take the middle road once in office. She is trying to keep quiet to hold onto the left base, while being a complete corporatist and do deals on Free Trade and tax reform among other things.


Her convention speech addressed a number of her policy positions. She adapted a number of Sanders positions which I honestly believed that she lied about.

Anyone familiar with her work over the years will be able to separate the fluff from her real stances on the issues.

Her presidency will be primarily the 3rd term that Bill never had. She will govern in that way. If you thought his Presidency was a success then fine. If you didn't then oh well.

How exactly is a Trump presidency not going to be a sellout to corporate interests? No one ever quite addresses that part in all this?


Hillary and Bill have been selling out America to corporate and foreign interests for years.

So at least we won't have to argue about it.


The middle class performed better under Clinton than they have under Reagan Bush Obama or the other Bush. Each of these Presidents also sold out to corporate interests.

Clinton also imposed a higher tax rate on wealthy people.

How exactly is Trump going to change this? He wants to return to the disastrous supply side economic policies of Reagan. Low tax rates will create jobs. Yadda Yadda Yadda. This has really proven to be a winner for both the Middle class and poor people hasn't it

Always remember that Trump has benefitted tremendously from the system that he now decries. How he can trick anyone into thinking that he is the change agent is really beyond me.

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Hillary taking 3 days off the campaign? prolly to NetFlix and chill with Huma.

Hillary and Huma binge-watching OITNB while Weiner's in the next room, texting dick pics to republitard catfishers.



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Looks like Daddy just landed in Lousiana...sure the left will hammer it as pandering, but he should drop a $11M check for the 11,000 that are staying in shelters right now....mic drop

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/trump-lands-in-louisiana/2016/08/19/3f3fb48c-661a-11e6-b4d8-33e931b5a26d_video.html


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Hillary should put down the remote, dust off her trusty teleprompter and get out there and take on Trump, Raoul Duke style:

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Hillary should put down the remote, dust off her trusty teleprompter and get out there and take on Trump, Raoul Duke style:

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She's being LITERALLY propped up by pieces of furniture, human beings and pillows now.

She's exhausted!

Gotta start planning a way to do even more backdoor bribe collection now that the Clinton's have "stopped accepting" foreign donations for the Clinton Bribe Foundation. They totally did that just because, in the works for a long time!


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Nas wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Nas wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Nas wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Trump seemed to make his first real attempt to act like a normal politician yesterday and be slightly more humble. If he does well in the debates, which I think is a real possibility, this could at least be a close election. I think Hillary's strategy of just letting Trump implode upon himself has been sound up until now. But political momentum can turn on a dime, and she carries so much baggage that her disillusioned votes may stay home on election day.

Scary choices for America.


How can Trump wins a debate? By style points. It definitely won't be substance.


He beat out plenty of Republicans.

My experience with friends and family is that they hate Hillary. They are trying to convince themselves that Trump is the answer. If he comes off as somewhat reasonable while Hillary looks poor, then these folks will swing his way. Neither candidate has any substance. I mean Hillary supported TPP and now she doesn't. I know she will support it once in office.



Hillary knows the issues better than ANYONE in politics.


Umm, yeah, the problem isn't her lack of knowledge; rather, it's her lack of judgment and character that's so troubling.


She's never really been in charge.


Then I guess she's not qualified to be president.

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