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New Bill Simmons show kicked off last night. I missed it but sounds interesting at least.

http://variety.com/2016/tv/reviews/revi ... 201802058/

Bill Simmons shows he can get under the skin in his HBO debut

When Bill Simmons, the former ESPN columnist and Grantland editor-in-chief, signed a deal to produce a half-hour talk show with HBO, the story was mostly about what ESPN had let slip away. Simmons, with his jocular, off-the-cuff delivery, holds a special place in the heart of the thinking sports fan. To be exact, he’s a fan’s fan, as comfortable rattling off statistics as he is settling into an impassioned defense of his favorite team.


As a professional haver-of-opinions, Simmons was tremendously qualified for his role at ESPN — weighing in on not just sports but politics, pop culture, and parenting, whenever and however he felt like it. Ultimately, he was rather too qualified in ruffling feathers for ESPN’s taste. After numerous close calls, Simmons criticized NFL commissioner Roger Goodell’s handling of the Ray Rice domestic violence video on his podcast, “The B.S. Report.” ESPN responded first by suspending him for three weeks and then cutting him loose the following year.

That’s all water under the bridge now — sort of. Because while Simmons seems completely unperturbed by his ignominious ejection and subsequent emergency landing, HBO seems to be hoping that the charming and hackles-raising snark that got Simmons into trouble will keep its well-educated and politically savvy viewers engaged. The promos for the show are aggressive and confrontational; Simmons looks directly into the camera and declaims some of his least popular opinions, from the mostly ludicrous to the vaguely sensible. He is also not afraid to swear a blue streak. But most of all, Bill Simmons isn’t here to pussyfoot around, and he wants you to know it: How often do the teasers for a talk show feature the lead staring back at the viewer and cursing with tautly contained anger? “I believe billionaires should pay for their own f–ing football stadiums,” Simmons snaps, unleashing all of the pent-up rancor that ESPN wouldn’t quite let him unleash.


It’s brilliant, really: Simmons turned the notice for what got him fired into a job description at another company. Not a bad move, if you have the gumption to swing it. But while Simmons is as reliably knee-jerk as ever — and perhaps more comfortable on-camera than he ever has been, though there’s still a long way to go — his now-unleashed edge comes with its own set of problems. Much like Bill Maher, another of HBO’s talking heads, Simmons’ presence on the network is both electrifying and immediately divisive; how many white men who are convinced they know everything can HBO possibly employ at once?

There’s a moment in the relatively engaging first episode of “Any Given Wednesday” that belies just how blinkered both Simmons and his new parent network can be about anything outside the scope of their experience. When Simmons observes that Steph Curry, in the NBA finals, “lost control” of his game, he adds that Curry also “lost control” of his wife, Ayesha, because of a controversial statement she tweeted. It’s one of those statements where the only possible reaction is to stare vacantly into space, hoping for some deus ex machina to irrevocably alter what has just occurred. In 2016 on HBO, it’s part of the network’s frustrating and at this point clearly deliberate blind spot towards its female viewership. (“Ballers,” which returns for season two next month, will be testing viewers’ collective nerves in just this capacity.) If there is anything to regret in the unleashed charm of Bill Simmons on HBO, it’s that there’s no longer anyone in the room who will tell him he can’t be sexist for a not-very-good joke.

The frustrating thing is that everything else about “Any Given Wednesday” is really promising. Simmons’ guests are not there for interviews, but for conversations; the easy vibe is broken up by little segments from Simmons that mix in pre-produced graphics while commenting on the state of sporting life. In last night’s episode, a conversation with former NBA star Charles Barkley about the finals was followed by a segment where Simmons trashed every ad spot that Steph Curry has been in, whether that’s for Under Armour or Muscle Milk. Crucially, it ended on a loving note: Simmons’ thesis was that this is the best shooter in the history of the NBA, so just film him doing that, advertisers!

It was a refreshing kind of approach, and one that HBO, sans advertisers, is more free to pursue. The mash-up of ad spot, music video, and soundbites also made for a viewing experience that felt layered and engaging, not unlike browsing social media. The format, and the snark behind it, allows “Any Given Wednesday” to keep apace with the robust online conversation around sports teams and their leading stars; Simmons’ sly little dig about Curry’s new line of sneakers being boring is lifted right from the prevailing opinion of the Internet.

And while Barkley was tolerable and the segments choppy but intriguing, Simmons’ interview with Ben Affleck about the New England Patriots and the scandal termed “Deflategate” turned into one of the most fascinating character studies I’ve seen on a talk show. Simmons and Affleck are both Bostonians, and their shared affinity for the Patriots creates an automatic kind of kinship. But given minimal prodding, Affleck went off about the controversy, running up and down rhetorical flourishes about the NFL’s treachery with the cadence and confidence of a barfly. Simmons nodded and smiled throughout most of the interview, letting Affleck talk himself out; at one point, the actor referred to Jennifer Garner as his wife, willfully forgetting, apparently, the divorce and his own infidelity.

It’s quite the portrait of a sadsack — honestly, it’s hard not to come away from the interview thinking that maybe Affleck needs help. But it’s also testament to Simmons’ preternatural comfort conversing with prickly, guarded celebrities, whether they are actors or athletes. Simmons can’t interview Affleck every week, probably, but such a strong installment right out the gate suggests that Simmons’ show could very well become a must-watch for undiluted, uncensored voices commenting on the sports, politics, and culture of the day.

Because best of all, the show just feels fun. The director of last night’s episode probably was a bit too enamored of the (admittedly lush) set, complete with brass hexahedron full of succulents and various old baseballs lying about artfully. But the rough edges belie a lot of spirit underneath; Simmons seemed almost bursting to weigh in on the news, eager to have opinions with, and at, the audience.

Simmons will have a recurring segment on the show where he hands out a belt to the champ of the week. This time, the belt went to an abstract concept: The year 2016, where not only do the Cleveland Cavaliers beat the Golden State Warriors and Trump comes within spitting distance of the White House, but Bill Simmons gets his own show on HBO, the network he used to watch for softcore porn. Simmons isn’t going to pull any punches, and he is over the moon about it.

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It was dumb, and pretty much a New England show.


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It was dumb, and pretty much a New England show.


Wow, you could tell that after one 30 minute episode?

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First episode sucked. We'll see if it gets better. Bill looked nervous as hell.

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It was o.k., I watched it for 10 minutes until it got all deflategatey.

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Barkley was fine.

I don't really care for Simmons so I most likely won't watch regularly.

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Bill Simmons is kind of like Keith Olbermann if the latter were to drink lead-contaminated water for three years or so.

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Simmons was fine as this guy in the corner of the internet. As a headlining talent he's exposed as an asshat.

Nonetheless I hope he still does Guess The Lines podcast with Cousin Sal. A staple of my Mon/Tues jogs.


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2 things annoyed me: the glistening sweat over Barkley's upper lip, and Simmons's eye contact with the camera in his one-on-ones. He was looking over where he should've been looking. How did they not notice that?


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I assume HBO signed up Simmons to bring his 30 for 30 magic/contacts/mojo to HBO. Everything else Simmons does isn't worth anything commercially viable at this point. No one's paying for writing on the internet or podcasting.


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I saw the Affleck clip. He seemed drunk or on something.

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I saw the Affleck clip. He seemed drunk or on something.
That's just what Boston sounds like.

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Second episode was much better.

I think Malcolm Gladwell may be an alien though.

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Bill Simmons is kind of like Keith Olbermann if the latter were to drink lead-contaminated water for three years or so.


My favorite thing about Countdown (and Olbermann, for that matter) was the way the crew had to very audibly laugh at Keith's jokes. You just know some poor gaffer lost his job, or at least received a strongly worded ten-page single-spaced memo, for not letting out a hearty offstage laugh at "or should I say President Shrub."

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Much better tonight with the one guest (Aaron Rodgers) for a half hour.

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Much better tonight with the one guest (Aaron Rodgers) for a half hour.

May give this one a chance. I'm a Simmons fan, and I think the first two episodes were pretty awful. Can't even imagine how much the Simmons haters must dislike it.

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Unless he can't handle it, the show should be live. Never know what the guests will say. Way more interesting that way.

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This show is fucking terrible so far. It almost comes off as a parody of an HBO news and entertainment show when he's not talking to a guest. Highly disappointed.

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I enjoyed the Ricky Williams Seth Rogan interviews and weed roundtable discussion


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Can't even imagine how much the Simmons haters must dislike it.

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This show is fucking terrible so far.

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I enjoyed the Ricky Williams Seth I Gan interviews ams weed roundtable discussion

Most of the roundtable discussion segments have been great. Everything else about the show has been terrible.

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I'd be shocked if it gets a second season. A few weeks ago I read that it was losing in ratings to terrible generic movies they show on the other hbo channels at the same time it airs.

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Should be on after Real Sports or Hard Knocks. Its not bad...

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Interesting that HBO cut the "fuckin" out of the "NFL owners should pay for their own fuckin stadiums" quote in the new ads.

It was like the climax in the original ads

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Yeah, that's weird. I guess bad words aren't okay until after the show starts and the perfunctory warning has been issued?

I don't think Bill has ever gotten the hang of hosting television. His strength is in the big ideas and getting the right people to execute them, and as much as we rag on his style, he can still write well when he needs to (Book of Basketball).

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HBO is iterating Simmons show to have....less Simmons. Having Simmons deliver his monologue as an off-camera voice-over instead of appearing on screen and scaring children, until a guest is there to soften the impact of Simmons freak-face.

Simmons looks strange these days. He's taken the LA thin-and-tan thing to heart to the point he's aged himself a decade prematurely.

Simmons and Rapaport are in that deflategate bit together--both born in 1970. Rapaport doesn't appear to worship the sun/tanning bed; or spend a week a month "juicing" [some sort of lemon and pepper and water diet]. Rapaport doesn't so much look young as Simmons looks weird and aged:

http://crookedscoreboard.com/any-given- ... mmons-hbo/

Simmons is producer and star and calls all the shots? Shouldn't he take his own advice about coaches who try to be GM's and fail and bring in a pro to produce his show? Course, first move an experienced producer would make: replace the host.


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That link put it nicely: Any Given Wednesday is uncommonly awful.

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I think some of you guys would watch paint dry if it was a television show

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