Mike I love you man but this is possibly one of the worst thoughts I've read here.

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What about their choices to date makes you believe that future choices would be for the best of anyone?

No. They don't get to choose.


Believe it or not it's actually cheaper to put someone away for life than to execute them.

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I'm with Spaulding.
The game has been changed in the sheer level of atrocity that 'people' have come to accept, be apologists for, and defend.
Kinda goes back to my original take on this post.
Seems no one has any problem with sucking a baby out of the womb and killing it, but despicable, disgusting criminals don't deserve a fucking bullet between the eyes?

A baby/fetus, whatever the fuck you wanna call it has absolutely no choice or control over whatever happens.
Children simply can't defend themselves.
Adults can defend against and/or prevent terrible horrors from happening. They just don't.

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Yes it's cheaper. Society has to decide whether vengeance is a right or acceptable. Financially death penalty is stupid as dark I points out.

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You're not making any sense, just to let you know. Also, nobody is apologizing for or defending the crime in the OP, so what the fuck are you talking about? As for accepting it, we don't have much of a choice in that regard amigo. It happened. As a wise man once said: when you're born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in the US, you get front row seats.

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I don't really look at it as vengeance.
There are just some cretins, that if proven without a shadow of a doubt, did something heinous, they're just taking our oxygen.........Fuck 'em. Rot in Hell.

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Spaulding is dropping a bunch of realism on your collective fantasy land.

Atta girl.

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Yup

I never knew leash and Darkside were hippies.

Well, I'm not going to engage in an internet battle of "I'm more correct than you are". It's just how I feel. Some 'people' never should've been born in the first place, and some 'people' should've been sterilzed in grade school. Shit like this doesn't just happen overnight. And to your point, I'm making perfect sense to myself, some fucks have completely waived their rights to living. I'm not talking about religion, sexuality, White Sox fans etc. I'm talking about the wastes of space who knew exactly what they they did and why they did it. hashtag fuckem.

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Neat. I've been accused of being a Trump supporter and a hippie all in one week.
Lol.

I just can't wrap my mind around killing a human being regardless of how perverted they are.
All life is precious. Even if it needs to be caged until it's over.

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I would agree to the state-sponsored killing of Hockey Gay.

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All life is precious. Even if it needs to be caged until it's over.

Tell that to your steaks, bratwursts, and chicken wings..........

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Um.... ok... so I'm talking about human life... not like food.
If all life is precious in the way you're talking you should feel weird about killing plants too.

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I don't put much value into human life.

Overall, we're an awful species. Especially White Sox fans.

I was quoting you, DS. I don't believe all life is precious. I'm not sure how that got misconstrued.....

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Ok.

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But there's so few of them.

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I was ten. First time I sat with the adults at the big table at the family friend's house. He was the associate minister at our church. Gov. Anaya had just pardoned 9 death row inmates...and debate flowed. I was asked my opinion and I stated bluntly I guess that I felt they should have been killed for their crimes. Rev. Reneau disagreed and leaned on the commandment thou shalt not kill. The point being that even though these individuals may be flawed, they were still human and worthy of life. I cannot give the conversation the credit it deserves. He changed my mind...find the thread and print it. I have not believed in the death penalty since. We continued the conversation about holding criminals, and rehabilitating them. His belief as expected being the prison system is flawed and provides little effort for rehabilitation.

Can one rehabilitate a true sociopath? No, but the life given shouldn't be taken by human intervention. Many times, the sociopath faced challenges unbeknownst to the general public that deserve consideration. Human life is best nurtured. All living things benefit from the same. It may never be met, but it is a goal worth attempting to achieve.

I am now old. Based on what I personally have seen the old man knew of what he spoke. I don't have any animosity towards others with an opposing view. I just don't have the same.

If I could nutshell it, it would be this:
Rapists, serial killers, paedophiles = Keep them alive and we can pay for the privilege.
Babies/fetuses, whatever you call it = fuck em.

I'm well aware that it is truly a woman's right to choose.
And it's my right to choose to wish a quick execution on the sick pieces of shit that kill kids for kicks.

$0.02

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Excellent gif usage.

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Thanks I'm trying to increase my effectiveness.

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What net benefit is there in the state sponsored execution of criminals?

I realize your opinion on the matter is unlikely to change, but what point is there in killing criminals other than vengeance?

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To completely remove them from society. Permanently.
What net benefit is there in keeping them alive?

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The DP isn't meant to be a deterent... Its about closure for victims family and in many cases its the only leverage to get some of these sick fucks to come clean and draw a map to the burial sites.

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If you are against the death penalty you should also be against the torturous long prison sentences that we pay for.

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states that pimp the death penalty hold on to it in part b/c of the leverage it provides LE/prosecutors in turning over murder cases/extracting plea bargains.

Why?

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None. Costs everyone money to keep them alive. Kind of like the career welfare lifers.

It costs more to give them the death sentence.

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