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Who is Seacrest voting for?
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Which Christians are you referring to in your post?

And can you provide an actual quote from Trump where he said he wanted to do religious tests?

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You do realize that you often tell others to "do their own research," correct?

But I'll oblige, anyway...

In a written statement late Monday afternoon, the Trump campaign said the Republican frontrunner wanted a “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.”

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You do realize that you often tell others to "do their own research," correct?

But I'll oblige, anyway...

In a written statement late Monday afternoon, the Trump campaign said the Republican frontrunner wanted a “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.”



I found this quote...


In the Cold War, we had an ideological screening test. The time is overdue to develop a new screening test for the threats we face today.

In addition to screening out all members or sympathizers of terrorist groups, we must also screen out any who have hostile attitudes towards our country or its principles—or who believe that Sharia law should supplant American law.

Those who do not believe in our Constitution, or who support bigotry and hatred, will not be admitted for immigration into the country. Only those who we expect to flourish in our country—and to embrace a tolerant American society—should be issued visas.

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I found this quote...


In the Cold War, we had an ideological screening test. The time is overdue to develop a new screening test for the threats we face today.

In addition to screening out all members or sympathizers of terrorist groups, we must also screen out any who have hostile attitudes towards our country or its principles—or who believe that Sharia law should supplant American law.

Those who do not believe in our Constitution, or who support bigotry and hatred, will not be admitted for immigration into the country. Only those who we expect to flourish in our country—and to embrace a tolerant American society—should be issued visas.


I like the concept.


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I found this quote...


In the Cold War, we had an ideological screening test. The time is overdue to develop a new screening test for the threats we face today.

In addition to screening out all members or sympathizers of terrorist groups, we must also screen out any who have hostile attitudes towards our country or its principles—or who believe that Sharia law should supplant American law.

Those who do not believe in our Constitution, or who support bigotry and hatred, will not be admitted for immigration into the country. Only those who we expect to flourish in our country—and to embrace a tolerant American society—should be issued visas.


I like the concept.


Sounds great! Eventually, we can just ship out anyone who disagrees with America about anything! I don't possibly see what the harm could be!

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I found this quote...


In the Cold War, we had an ideological screening test. The time is overdue to develop a new screening test for the threats we face today.

In addition to screening out all members or sympathizers of terrorist groups, we must also screen out any who have hostile attitudes towards our country or its principles—or who believe that Sharia law should supplant American law.

Those who do not believe in our Constitution, or who support bigotry and hatred, will not be admitted for immigration into the country. Only those who we expect to flourish in our country—and to embrace a tolerant American society—should be issued visas.


I like the concept.


Sounds great! Eventually, we can just ship out anyone who disagrees with America about anything! I don't possibly see what the harm could be!


Go to Russia hippie.

America was at it's best when there was a healthy fear of law enforcement and a strict adherence to societal norms.

We need to return to those days.

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leashyourkids wrote:
You do realize that you often tell others to "do their own research," correct?

But I'll oblige, anyway...

In a written statement late Monday afternoon, the Trump campaign said the Republican frontrunner wanted a “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.”



I found this quote...


Those who do not believe in our Constitution, or who support bigotry and hatred, will not be admitted for immigration into the country. Only those who we expect to flourish in our country—and to embrace a tolerant American society—should be issued visas.

I like the concept, but what do we do with the Trump supporters already here?

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The Trump movement cracks me up. They'd be the first to tell you how America was a great experiment performed by freedom-loving people who valued Liberty of the individual over all else, including security.

So, how do we honor our great freedom-loving forefathers?... by banning certain religions and people who have certain thoughts.

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The Trump movement cracks me up. They'd be the first to tell you how America was a great experiment performed by freedom-loving people who valued Liberty of the individual over all else, including security.

So, how do we honor our great freedom-loving forefathers?... by banning certain religions and people who have certain thoughts.



Bingo.

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For the record I am not for what you are saying. I Think there is a distinct difference.


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Then state what you're in favor of. It is becoming far too common practice on here to dance around what one really believes and then backtrack when challenged. If what he's saying isn't what you're advocating, then specify what "I like the concept" means.

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FavreFan wrote:
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You do realize that you often tell others to "do their own research," correct?

But I'll oblige, anyway...

In a written statement late Monday afternoon, the Trump campaign said the Republican frontrunner wanted a “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.”



I found this quote...


Those who do not believe in our Constitution, or who support bigotry and hatred, will not be admitted for immigration into the country. Only those who we expect to flourish in our country—and to embrace a tolerant American society—should be issued visas.

I like the concept, but what do we do with the Trump supporters already here?


Find the religion test they are advocating and then have a sit down with them.

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Then state what you're in favor of. It is becoming far too common practice on here to dance around what one really believes and then backtrack when challenged. If what he's saying isn't what you're advocating, then specify what "I like the concept" means.

I just feel differently.

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Then state what you're in favor of. It is becoming far too common practice on here to dance around what one really believes and then backtrack when challenged. If what he's saying isn't what you're advocating, then specify what "I like the concept" means.

Says the guy who refuses to admit he's a liberal. smh

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Then state what you're in favor of. It is becoming far too common practice on here to dance around what one really believes and then backtrack when challenged. If what he's saying isn't what you're advocating, then specify what "I like the concept" means.

Says the guy who refuses to admit he's a liberal. smh


That term doesn't even have meaning anymore. Plus, JORR calls himself a Liberal, but he's right of Mussolini.

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Then state what you're in favor of. It is becoming far too common practice on here to dance around what one really believes and then backtrack when challenged. If what he's saying isn't what you're advocating, then specify what "I like the concept" means.

Says the guy who refuses to admit he's a liberal. smh


That term doesn't even have meaning anymore. Plus, JORR calls himself a Liberal, but he's right of Mussolini.

He just hates Muslims, transgender folk, women, and anyone who criticizes the National Anthem, but outside of that he is pretty liberal.

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FavreFan wrote:
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Then state what you're in favor of. It is becoming far too common practice on here to dance around what one really believes and then backtrack when challenged. If what he's saying isn't what you're advocating, then specify what "I like the concept" means.

Says the guy who refuses to admit he's a liberal. smh


That term doesn't even have meaning anymore. Plus, JORR calls himself a Liberal, but he's right of Mussolini.

He just hates Muslims, transgender folk, women, and anyone who criticizes the National Anthem, but outside of that he is pretty liberal.


:lol: Poor JORR.

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FavreFan wrote:
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Then state what you're in favor of. It is becoming far too common practice on here to dance around what one really believes and then backtrack when challenged. If what he's saying isn't what you're advocating, then specify what "I like the concept" means.

Says the guy who refuses to admit he's a liberal. smh


That term doesn't even have meaning anymore. Plus, JORR calls himself a Liberal, but he's right of Mussolini.

He just hates Muslims, transgender folk, women, and anyone who criticizes the National Anthem, but outside of that he is pretty liberal.


but he does despise the private ownership of real estate and is a big proponent of the arts

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Then state what you're in favor of. It is becoming far too common practice on here to dance around what one really believes and then backtrack when challenged. If what he's saying isn't what you're advocating, then specify what "I like the concept" means.


Pipe down there. People don't owe you an explanation of anything.

I don't think the US can or should screen people that are here. I'm not really sure even what that means. I do think people that think Sharia law should supplant American law and members or sympathizers of terrorist groups should not be permitted to immigrate here. If you think they fall under disagreeing, discrimination, or just having different views I don't know what to tell you.


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Then state what you're in favor of. It is becoming far too common practice on here to dance around what one really believes and then backtrack when challenged. If what he's saying isn't what you're advocating, then specify what "I like the concept" means.


Pipe down there. People don't owe you an explanation of anything.



No offense there Spaldy, but isn't sharing, exchanging, explaining, and debating ideas kind of the reason-for-being--the raison d'etre if you prefer--of message boards?

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No offense there Spaldy, but isn't sharing, exchanging, explaining, and debating ideas kind of the reason-for-being--the raison d'etre if you prefer--of message boards?


No, I'm here to say only what I want or feel like.


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leashyourkids wrote:
Then state what you're in favor of. It is becoming far too common practice on here to dance around what one really believes and then backtrack when challenged. If what he's saying isn't what you're advocating, then specify what "I like the concept" means.


Pipe down there. People don't owe you an explanation of anything.

I don't think the US can or should screen people that are here. I'm not really sure even what that means. I do think people that think Sharia law should supplant American law and members or sympathizers of terrorist groups should not be permitted to immigrate here. If you think they fall under disagreeing, discrimination, or just having different views I don't know what to tell you.


Why did you edit out the original opening statement of "Shut up" and replace it with "Pipe down?"

Seriously, what the fuck?


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Then state what you're in favor of. It is becoming far too common practice on here to dance around what one really believes and then backtrack when challenged. If what he's saying isn't what you're advocating, then specify what "I like the concept" means.


Pipe down there. People don't owe you an explanation of anything.

I don't think the US can or should screen people that are here. I'm not really sure even what that means. I do think people that think Sharia law should supplant American law and members or sympathizers of terrorist groups should not be permitted to immigrate here. If you think they fall under disagreeing, discrimination, or just having different views I don't know what to tell you.


How exactly do you think we would determine what people believe Sharia Law is above the Constitution? Throw darts at a dartboard?

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No, I'm here to say only what I want or feel like.


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Why did you edit out the original opening statement of "Shut up" and replace it with "Pipe down?"

Seriously, what the fuck?


Shut up was rude.

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How exactly do you think we would determine what people believe Sharia Law is above the Constitution? Throw darts at a dartboard?


Don't know. That's why I said I like the concept (thought behind it.) I don't know how you'd go about it.

You think people that believe in the strictest forms of Sharia Law should be allowed to immigrate here?


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Yes, I believe in American values like freedom of thought and freedom of religion, even when I don't agree. Radical, I know.

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Orthodox Jews likely rank the Torah above the Constitution; fundamentalist Christians and the New testament...I dunno, that's how they live their lives, doesn't seem to be a problem at large.


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Orthodox Jews likely rank the Torah above the Constitution; fundamentalist Christians and the New testament...I dunno, that's how they live their lives, doesn't seem to be a problem at large.


Bingo. There are a number of presidential candidates who would say they value their religion over the Constitution. In fact, they openly say it... "God, then country..."

I find it to be asinine, but as long as our laws reflect the Constitution, it would be quite a slippery-slope to ban someone for their religious beliefs/dedication.

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Orthodox Jews likely rank the Torah above the Constitution; fundamentalist Christians and the New testament...I dunno, that's how they live their lives, doesn't seem to be a problem at large.


When something requires women to cover themselves for subjugation or underage mariage then it should be a problem here. I understand some Orthodox religions have some of the same rules but I can't say that I've met anybody that follows that. I can't go into Saudi Arabia and say I'm a Catholic American and I want to live by my Catholic American laws/rules here.

What is the purpose of a hijab?


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What does Saudi Arabia have to do with American values and laws?

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What is the purpose of a hijab?


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