Now I am shy.

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yeah, but I've known you for at least five years...probably more

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Just a quick toss into this discussion you two are having. When I was young I had a large extended family as well as neighbors we spent a lot of time with. Doing many things from just hanging around to vacation or misc. activities. I would say very close. My perception is people these days have less of this close nearby relationships. Thus they stay to themselves a lot and use/acquire things that make that more enjoyable. Not sure what part of chicken/egg cause that as far as why.

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Yeah, I go to Pittsburgh with my buddies and invite a message board guy to join me. I don't think we were shy that night PM......

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Hawaii (fuck) You

If you meant "poster's dicks" then you are saying the poster named MANY has MANY dicks.

But I assume you meant "posters' dicks".


In either case, no thanks. I won't submit to your fantasies.

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Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

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Freedom is our Strength.

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Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

I find it hilarious that you consider yourself an introvert.

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I am an introvert. I can feel you extroverts sucking my energy.

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Call the police then...oh

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I kinda agree with you. Some people can turn it on when they need to though.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

The outward appearance of a person is difficult to judge whether they are an introvert or extrovert. As JORR mentions, it is primarily whether you derive your energy from being around others or from being by yourself (or around very close friends/family rather than large groups). Many "life of the party" types can even be introverts - they have just adapted to enjoy certain situations or to "fake it."

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I think Daimler-Benz was looking to streamline their supply chain/production/distribution processes and figured they'd buy and flip Chrylser--extracting IP and SCM know-how in the process.

Mustangs have been an exception to the rule of staying away from Ford products. Maybe they have other good vehicles; I don't like their ownership structure or their owners; and they've historically cranked out more crap than not. Just like the Lions.

The company with the fittest supply chain out there is Frito-Lay:

Interesting that they've found that the average facebook user has about as many persistent friends as Dunbar's number, which predates social media. Suggesting that if you're maintaining relationships online, those are displacing/replacing meatspace relationships. It makes sense some of y'all would wanna meet in person and further verify/cement those relationships, plus maybe score some free drinks:

I agree. He doesn't come across that way to me.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

'Stage Presence', so to speak.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

As someone who is the Police (Chicago). I once felt I did help, protect, and maybe save a few lives. I certainly don't feel that way anymore. In fact, I feel like a massive failure. I always did my job to the best of my abilities, probably going above and beyond more than a normal officer would. What's the saying, "20% of people do 90% of the work?" I guess I'd be in the category. But we all know that's pretty much every work force. Going back to JORR do the police help? Absolutely. I see it every day, or I did at one time. The environment we are in right now with everyone second-guessing and hating on the Police isn't helping. I doubt we'd be having this discussion if it wasn't for the environment we are currently in. I don't know what got us to this point. Not less than 3 years ago people saw the police and thought, "damn I hope I wasn't speeding?" to people thinking, "fuck those racist pigs!"

I suppose what I'm trying to say in my gobbledygook of thoughts, is that the police are only good as the people they're representing. And like it or not, we represent YOU. We are supposed to be there for YOU. If you don't want us there, then of course we aren't going to be there or we aren't going to appear like we are there for you. It's all a psychological to me. I feel people are so currently wrapped up in hating the police, they don't see really that they just hate themselves.

Normally it's the 80/20 rule.....but the rule is 80% right about 20% of the time.

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Fuck that. You are a hero to a lot of people. There are sick/weak/old/kids out there that do need help from the police. Focus on them and fuck the people who don't want to deal with you.

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Agreed

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GO BEARS!!!

You seem like a good guy. You certainly don't come across as a hammerhead cop. Still, you seem to be suggesting the public is at fault for the environment rather than police forces that are becoming more and more militarized and less a part of their communities everyday.

The thing is, if you had been out there during the Laquan McDonald shooting I have to believe your report would have been the same as all the other guys'. I wouldn't blame you for that. And I don't think that makes you a bad person. But it does make the police force a bad institution.

You talk about the public "hating on" the police. It's a two way street. And I'd suggest those feelings are a lot stronger on the part of the police. There are plenty of citizens who support you. Many have spoken in this very thread. But I don't know any cops who don't have the feeling that the people they are supposed to be serving and protecting are on an opposing "team".

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This is why I think the police unions have failed most of their officers for the benefit of the few bad eggs. I'm sure there is some legal reason why but it seems like they contribute greatly to the idea that the police never do anything wrong and don't ever deserve any sort of repercussions.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Here are a few of the Policemen I have known personally in my life:

One Chicago cop killed in the line of duty.

One suburban cop shot through a door and lived because he had a vest on.

One suburban cop who in his off time serves in Afghanistan as a Army Colonel.

One State Cop who worked with an FBI Crime unit.

Two cops helped save my life.

I don't know about any of you,but I thank God these guys were there in my life. I'm pro Police but even the staunchest supporter must realize there are bad cops,too. Just like every other profession.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Again. jimmy, I don't think this is a personal thing. It's not about people. It's about an institution.

The modern police force in America was designed to protect the capitalist state. The original job of the urban police force was to put down dissent. There is a link between economic downturns and populist rage against the police. These are generally not conversations that are had in economic boom times.

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I get what you're saying. You just need to distance yourself from FF.

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The "rage" has never been this bad in our nations history since the Haymarket (?) Riots in Chicago. Guys getting assassinated for just wearing the blue,it's unreal. It would be nice if our leaders in the White House supported the Police but ask any cop if he feels Obama "has their back".

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Protect the capitalist state? You mean to protect our way of life?

It's like you guys think this economic system is some grand conspiracy. It is the product of our Constitution that has evolved over 200+ years. It will go down in history as one of the greatest combinations of democratic government and economic strength the world has ever seen. The level of development created by the capitalist state is something unparalleled in history. Four percent of the world's population is producing nearly one quarter of world output.

The system is not without flaws. Maybe the accumulation of material goods is not your thing. Fine. But the vast majority of the population is getting its basic needs met- food, clothing, and housing. And I am all for exploring the problems of inadequate public schooling performance and income inequality. I am not in favor of tearing the whole mother fucker down with silly ideas like banning the police and moving towards anarchy.

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You realize you are absolutely right but many here will still argue it for pages right?

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why is it that homeless people without even a pot to piss in are beaten raped murdered every day?

Because evil which is why you need cops

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