Today's show will be firing on Hawk for his comment on Frazier and Bryant.

Eh, I don't mind make fun of Hawk days...

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

Whatever point he was ultimately trying to make, it was just dumb.

I'm sure representatives of Sox nation will be by at some point to make no sense either in response.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

What'd he say?

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During Thursday evening’s broadcast, White Sox veteran television play-by-play Hawk Harrelson addressed the little-discussed topic of comparing the two third basemen in Chicago.

Simply put, it was peak Hawk Harrelson as he explained how the White Sox’s Todd Frazier stacks up with the Cubs’ Kris Bryant.

“We talk about batting average being one of the most misleading statistics in baseball,” Harrelson said. “Kris Bryant, in the running for (NL) MVP, will probably get a leg up on most guys over there. He’s got 36 home runs and 91 RBIs. And he’s a good third baseman, but you know, he’s not Todd Frazier defensively.

“I’m talking about these two. (Bryant’s) in the running for that MVP. He’s got two more home runs than Todd. He’s got seven seven more RBIs, but he’s hitting 95 points higher. So, batting averages can really be skewed. As I said, with the way Todd shows his leather at third.”

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ah yes. Because batting average is a sabermetric stat. Or not.

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

He's no Frazier at third... Hawk's right. He's better. Bryant isn't even great at third but he's better than Frazier.

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Thanks, Peeps.



Not to mention the fact that Bryant has played four different positions. Also, how can batting average be skewed? I would agree that it can probably be overvalued, but Bryant's average is nearly higher than Frazier's OBP.

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I think he's done everything but pitch this season.

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Yas' best year:

1967:

112 Runs
44 HR's
121 RBI
.326 BA
.421 OBP
.622 Slg


Bryant 2016

In 500 at bats, so he has maybe 100 left.

112 Runs
36 HR's
91 RBI
.307 BA
.403 OBP
.590 Slg

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Hawaii (fuck) You

No, he leads the league in pitching tents. Look at those beautiful eyes.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

National Treasure

#FireBenetti

Skip Bayless level hot take from Hawk.

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OBP (yeah you know me)
TF: .296
KB: .403

OPS
TF: .752
KB: .993*

OPS+
TF: 102
KB: 163*

PA (AB) {Hits}
TF: 544 (480) {103}
KB: 588* (502) {154}

Total Bases
TF: 219
KB: 296*

Runs Scored
TF: 70
KB: 112*


* - current league leader

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Hopefully he's a buried treasure soon.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

This is bad. This may be worse than the people that thought that Arrieta was better than Sale.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Stone pony just let that slide last night?

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Can someone post defensive metrics?

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pretty much. He (if you listen to the clip and read between the lines) saw it coming and tried to sidetrack it, but to no avail. He offered a weak "well, the cubs are x amount games over .500" but didn't contradict him directly.

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

Sale is obviously a better career pitcher, but Arrieta was better last year.

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Just as my fellow Sox fans tried to tell you all back in my Sox fan days.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Its either Hawk types or Chip Caray types


I'm comfortable on the Hawk side

yea you all root for Hawk to go.....so you can listen to Benetti and Stone play grab ass the whole game and spend 3 innings talking about Sox math and the prize shelf...

Jake Arrieta has been on par with, or possibly better than, Chris Sale this year.

Jake Arrieta has a better ERA+, and for the traditionalists, a better W-L.

He is also the MLB leader in BA against and OPS against (by a wide margin. Hendricks is second)

edit: So...off-topic...but Jake Arrieta has only been subpar this year when compared to his historic 2015. He is still great.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

I don't usually mind Hawk. I like that he's not vanilla and kind of whacked out. That was an embarrassing statement, though. You kinda just have to enjoy his nuttiness and take everything he says with a grain of salt.

Not everyone can be Lenny.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Exhibit A.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

You're not a baseball guy...but if you were I'd ask you to provide a counter argument since you seem to disagree.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

You're factoring in his first month or two where he was still great. Since then, he hasn't been "great."

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