You're not a baseball guy...but if you were I'd ask you to provide a counter argument since you seem to disagree.

You're factoring in his first month or two where he was still great. Since then, he hasn't been "great."

I'm factoring in his entire season.

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Don't be difficult. Rick's already got that trademarked.

I would like to amend IMU's request by modifying it to read 'pertinent counter argument'.

Read my edit. He has set the bar so high that you judge him too harshly when he is just average over a short period of time. In any large sample size, he is 'great.'

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it has been less effective in general.

I hope Arrieta returns to being great, but he's not currently great. MANY would have him as the 3rd best starter on the team at this moment.

Trouble counting today?

I'm not going to do a counter argument against one stat being posted and then a statistic the poster believes is meaningless.

During Thursday evening’s broadcast, White Sox veteran television play-by-play Hawk Harrelson addressed the little-discussed topic of comparing the two third basemen in Chicago.

Simply put, it was peak Hawk Harrelson as he explained how the White Sox’s Todd Frazier stacks up with the Cubs’ Kris Bryant.

“We talk about batting average being one of the most misleading statistics in baseball,” Harrelson said. “Kris Bryant, in the running for (NL) MVP, will probably get a leg up on most guys over there. He’s got 36 home runs and 91 RBIs. And he’s a good third baseman, but you know, he’s not Todd Frazier defensively.

“I’m talking about these two. (Bryant’s) in the running for that MVP. He’s got two more home runs than Todd. He’s got seven seven more RBIs, but he’s hitting 95 points higher. So, batting averages can really be skewed. As I said, with the way Todd shows his leather at third.”

Ok, so 2 statistics and 2 statistics that supposedly don't matter(BA and Wins). I notice a lot of statistics that you failed to mention that I've seen before.

I don't usually mind Hawk. I like that he's not vanilla and kind of whacked out. That was an embarrassing statement, though. You kinda just have to enjoy his nuttiness and take everything he says with a grain of salt.

Not everyone can be Lenny.

The only dumb thing he said is "batting averages can be skewed", which isn't true. But he never said Frazier is better than Bryant. Nothing to see here

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Because Lester and Hendricks are also great.

Arrieta can be more consistent. In the last week he was not great. In the three weeks before that he was great. For the season, he has been great.

You're trying too hard to call him anything but great. Yes... for any one game or two he can give up 4 ER.

That happens to EVERY pitcher.

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Yes, he did. Listen the audio. If he didn't come out and say it, he directly implied it. Stone was uncomfortable, it was so weird. Stone even tried to deflect to other third basement, and Hawk was like "No, I'm talking between these two."

Go ahead and pull them up. Arrieta ranks highly in all of them.

Jake Arrieta has been on par with, or possibly better than, Chris Sale this year.

Jake Arrieta has a better ERA+, and for the traditionalists, a better W-L.

He is also the MLB leader in BA against and OPS against (by a wide margin. Hendricks is second)

edit: So...off-topic...but Jake Arrieta has only been subpar this year when compared to his historic 2015. He is still great.

lot of Cubs fans listening to Sox broadcasts

put coke bottle glasses on Hawk and we can replay last nights statements after he dies during future seventh inning stretches to cheers

lot of Cubs fans listening to Sox broadcasts

put coke bottle glasses on Hawk and we can replay last nights statements after he dies during future seventh inning stretches to cheers

If you hate Laurence, then don't listen - don't comment. When he co-hosts the B&B show, take that day off ... listen to an old podcast of a Bernstein solo show and jerk off all day.

But Harry was talking about Budweiser, seedless watermelon and wishing old ladies a happy birthday. He was a doddering old fool but I don't recall him comparing Tuffy Rhodes to Ken Griffey Jr.

:lol:

Thanks, Peeps.



Not to mention the fact that Bryant has played four different positions. Also, how can batting average be skewed? I would agree that it can probably be overvalued, but Bryant's average is nearly higher than Frazier's OBP.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

You're not a baseball guy...but if you were I'd ask you to provide a counter argument since you seem to disagree.

IMU proving who the "baseball guy" is.

Everything I had said was true.

You'll notice that post was from 2016. It speaks nothing of 2017, a year in which Chris Sale is outperforming Jake Arrieta by a wide margin.

Your tenacity is to be respected, even if you could hone it in such a fashion where it could be much more effective for you.