Or Bill Engvall.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Not living check-to-check

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Yup. They done fell for it again.

I' learned my lesson after all of the Quintana nonsense.

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Not a mult.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... story.html

Top cop after violent holiday weekend: 'It's not a police issue, it's a society issue'

After another violent holiday weekend, Chicago police Superintendent Eddie Johnson said Tuesday his department is doing all it can to combat violence rooted in "impoverished neighborhoods" where "people without hope do these kinds of things."

"It's not a police issue, it's a society issue," Johnson told reporters outside police headquarters after a long weekend that saw 65 people shot, 13 of them fatally.

Getting rid of the cops will make it all better...

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I doubt it would make it worse. People would likely accept more responsibility. There's too much trust in government.

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Freedom is our Strength.

What other than blind hope makes you think people would accept more responsibility?

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Bullshit......Gang assholes would just have a free for all, taking whatever they wanted, knowing there was not going to be any consequences. Survival of the fittest and most well armed....chaos.

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Go Cubs!!!!

No way you truly believe this. How does one accept more responsibility when those causing the carnage have no responsibility? Those committing heinous acts benefit from lawlessness. GenPop is not going to arm themselves to defend against what is going on right now. Shit, most folks can't afford the firepower. Most folks cannot get their kids into job programs (pick your reasoning) to keep them out of harm's way.

Please provide additional explanation how this additional responsibility is going to work.

I can accept a lack of trust in government. I cannot accept a lack of government benefits those that are most at risk. I have no solution, or I would provide it to be pilloried by all.

Edit--It is not just gangs for those with racial bias. MANY ethnic groups have significant mob activity who would have a field day if there were no government agency to at least knock them back a peg no and then. In terms of city history, I wonder what year we would find ourselves living in? Pre or post Haymarket? With automatic weapons, lightening communication and ease of travel within the U.S. and abroad.

There weren't always police forces, you know. People didn't rely on them. I don't think they do as much as you think anyway. They largely exist to create revenue.

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And to document disputes and crimes.

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I don't believe you can honestly look at Chicago and say it would benefit from no police force. I guess maybe you can. Fiefdoms will sprout up with the strongest crews demanding payment for security. Some will be havens of ill repute, and some will not. Cicero on steroids sounds nice. I'll work to get my daughter too or tree dances a nite on the main stage and life is good.

Wait a second. I see Seacrest is keeping this topic going with another factless newspaper article. I see the Triumverate are now generating hits to keep the site afloat.

No worries people. In a year I guarantee you my hot little number bryanna hanna will be ready to give you a show. You may have to pay a poll tax or two crossing Irving, Pulaski, and maybe North for you Southerners. Damned border crossings. Trust me it'll be worth your while. Obamacare is paying for the boobs and butt. Security in my hood is tight. Scams are so good around here AK's for everyone. Come on down, if the Ubers dare. Did I mentione 20% off for the fellers wearing blazers?

Not sure about the webcast yet. The alderman hasn't agreed to a deal yet with the cable providers. Lots a fine tail around here though, so it'll get done. That porn sells sells sells. Weblinks to follow when the deal is done.

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I am fascinated by the new dynamic of the crew.

JORR = yarn spinning Johnny Carson
Seacrest = Ed McMahon...the chuckler
Nas = better dressed/looking Doc Severinsen

Wind the audience up and we're off.

Yep, that's enough mescaline for beni this evening. sleep tight.

I did before he posted it. The chuckler is feeding the brooding yarn spinner.

I guess I could have worked with Fallon's show, but it kinda sucks IMO. Seemed like a low comparison.

I like it!

Seriously, it's not like we don't have crime and murder now. I guess it depends on how you view your fellow citizens. Do you really believe the majority of them are savages kept from your door only by a "thin blue line"? That's the cop mentality. I just don't think it's reality. There are all kinds of ideas and theories on how the dismantling, or at least the radical reshaping, of the urban police force might actually work.

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Freedom is our Strength.

There wasn't always indoor plumbing either. That doesn't mean it wasn't an improvement.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

The point is, the current methods of policing clearly aren't working very well. Your analogy would be better if your toilet was shooting your guests in the back a couple times a year.

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Freedom is our Strength.

Indoor plumbing damages houses every day all over the country.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Enter George Soros....

The Internet allows for the free and fast spread of hate. Abolish the internet.

Airplanes make it easier for for our enemies to come here and do us harm and for people to dress lIke savages. Abolish airplanes.

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Do you really think those are good analogies? They might be more germane if there were demonstrations against the Internet or the airlines happening on corners across America.

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015 ... .b0Et1ZF5E

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Freedom is our Strength.

Well is it the danger the entity poses that is the deciding factor or protests?

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One thing for certain, crime statistics cannot be trusted. I realize that article I linked is just anecdotal evidence, but here are the police refusing to do the job in a high crime area and the residents actually feel safer.

Of course, the knee-jerk reaction of cops and their union reps is to cry about how they are unappreciated and nobody "has their backs". To me, this isn't about individual officers, who have an unquestionably difficult job. They're just a single piece of a much larger puzzle. As we move closer and closer to a modern version of a feudal system there will naturally be more and more civil unrest.

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Freedom is our Strength.

The push for heavy regulation of that and regulation of speech in general is really starting to gain movement. Obama giving away the internet to dictators and thugs is the beginning, Clinton has already stated her position on her hatred of the 1st Amendment and the Old Guard Media is starting its psy-op campaigns...just take a look at the Time Magazine article on "internet hate!" George Soros was shown, in leaked emails, to be using his tried and true Open Society group as a hammer with which to reshape what opinions are allowed on the internet.

These aren't wild conspiracy theories, folks, these are real things.

All coming together quite nicely.

Why aren't they? Murders and violent crimes are down by nearly 60% from where they were in the early 90's. Don't the police get some credit for that?

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Are they really down? Or are they just classified as something besides "murder"? Also, the medical treatment is far better than it was 25 years ago. What may have been a murder in 1992 is now just some guy maimed for life. Crime statistics are not to be trusted.

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magaz ... ime-rates/

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And if we are to accept that, what is it exactly that the police are doing so differently than they did twenty-five years ago?

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The media reports things far differently today than it did in the 90s. Social media was either non existent or in its infantile stage during the 90s as well.

That I believe is the biggest difference.

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