solid point.

Aldo Raines made sure you could tell they were Natzees.

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Not really.

I thought Ignatius was bad, now I know they didn't teach history at Depaul Academy...

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I'm not one but I assume one of the best things about being an atheist is that after you die you don't have to deal with any more crazy Christians.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

If by "punish the guy" you mean that I think it's OK for someone to judge him and call for his removal. Then yes, I want to punish this guy for his possible approval of Nazism. Do I think he should be fired now that the story has blown up? No. I do think it would be a wise move to get the guy off the streets. One from a PR standpoint and two because he's going to be a target wherever he goes.

I get what you want to argue here, but Nazism and Islam are not even close to being the same thing.

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I never said they were. But they are both questionable ideologies. You've simply been trained to think one is socially acceptable.

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Agreed

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from a first principles perspective, if no one believed in god, and atheists--first and foremost--don't believe in god, then, yeah, we'd all be venn diagram'd into one atheist circle.

but we wouldn't have the sort of militant atheists who register so negatively on that Pew poll. the prickly variety of atheist who goes around nattering endlessly about how other people having an imaginary best friend is the worst thing ever. At least I hope we wouldn't.

makes sense that a self-identified group of people who base their group identity on negating other people's imaginary best friends might not be the most warmly rec'd/highly regarded group.

if they simply asked "People who don't give god/religion a second thought" that group prolly wouldn't be neck and neck with "potential suicide bombers" as the most hated group on that poll.

Man, talk about privilege! Atheists aren't the ones doing the infringing. I'm sure a guy as smart as you is well aware of such.

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Agreed

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I'm curious to know which one you think is worse.

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No issue with him being a cop as long as he is doing his job the right way.

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How can you trust him to do his job correctly when he is advertising and obviously quite proud of what being a Nazi is all about?

This isn't a guy selling insurance. This is a man sworn to protect all people and this brings that into question. He'd be fired as a school teacher for those tattoos but we think he can adequately carry a gun with the ability to legally kill someone?

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Look at his stats. A look at who he is stopping or arresting and the type of complaints he's gotten.

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I only care about his TWTW(ipe out non-whites).

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If he did his job properly, he'd probably only be required to cover them up while on the job...in my department. If it was found that he was posting on Stormfront and/or sharing his views on social media, he'd deserve to be fired...imho.

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I disagree, but I do credit you for being consistent.

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I would say that displaying a Nazi tattoo in uniform in and of itself is not doing the job the right way. I know it's been brought up several times, but I think you're ignoring the fact that there are fundamental differences between public and private sector jobs. Also, nobody's rights are being infringed on asking for him to be fired. You don't have a right to be a police officer.

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I think it's more than that though. Can he keep his job if he covers up? How about if he has the tattoo removed?

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SICP v The De Paul Academy at Gordon Technical High School, Friday at 7:00 pm at 1076 W. Roosevelt.

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We're basically having two conversations at once here, about this individual cop and about the larger picture of what beliefs a public servant is allowed to openly display and still hold their job. For this particular Nazi, I would say that his decision to get and display the tattoo would be a sign of some very poor decision making. That alone I would think is sufficient to call his job into question.

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I think you know which one I think is worse, but that isn't really the point. There is no significant number of Nazis anywhere in the world committing atrocities or promoting a set of values incompatible with basic American values. I don't want a cop who thinks Sharia trumps U.S. law anymore than I want a Nazi cop.

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I agree with that, but it opens a can of worms. How did the Army handle "tattoo inspection"?

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I simply believe firing the guy because of some art that MANY find offensive is wrong. Judge the man bases on the job he's done/doing.

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I might show for that. Does Jeske still coach "Gordon"? Is he in your fantasy league? What is the team nickname now?

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Not delicately.

They have you go through this place called MEPS prior to shipping off to basic training. For the tattoo part, you go into a small room and strip completely naked, and then three officers go in there and inspect you for tattoos and ask you the meaning of any tattoos they are unsure of. I have heard they will take photos if they are unsure of the meaning of a particular tattoo. Your first day in basic training they strip you down to your boxers and go through the same exact thing. Once you are at your active duty station, there's no real checks or anything formal for it. But if you are dumb enough to get a Nazi tattoo on your forearm, I'm guessing somebody will notice it and you'll be called into the Captain's office.

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I think you're viewing it too narrowly. He wouldn't be fired for having an "offensive" tattoo. He would be fired for terrible judgment and for advertising in uniform his belief that whites are superior to non-whites.

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Don't be dumb.

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DoD revised its tattoo policy a few years back--no face/neck ink, and no sleeves below the elbow? i think it was. thing is, they announced it ahead of time and said that anyone who had tattoos that would be in violation of the new policy prior to the new policy going into effect got to keep them/didn't have to cover em up. so of course this led to a steep increase in the number of currently enlisted with ink in violation of the prospective policy; as a lot of enlisted ran down to the tattoo parlor and got all inked up before the policy took effect.

the DoD dumped the policy a year later.

I agree. And I think we both obviously realize there are probably MANY officers who have beliefs that are incompatible with being able to be a good public servant in the US, but if you are openly advertising those beliefs in uniform it seems like an easy call.

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