Hahaha. JORR's a lightning Rod.

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Maybe they aren't occurring BECAUSE so many police....

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(That's for you Bagels)

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What the fuck are you talking about? If police were the answer D.C. would have less crime than Irvine. Is that hard to figure out?

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Freedom is our Strength.

There are those that look at things the way they are and say they have to be that way. I dream of things that could be, and ask why not?

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Freedom is our Strength.

There goes rich businessman Seacrest trying to pit the middle class against the poor as usual.

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Freedom is our Strength.

Posting stupid GIFs are about 90% of what he does. At least Walt's stuff is relevant.

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Agreed! Why not ask why not?

Less malaise = less need for cops. But we'll always need 'em because we'll never get to the utopia and because cops do other stuff.

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We're fucked.

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I think that other stats Jorr has posted easily disprove that.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

That's a little harsh. I never pegged you for the type of guy who thinks slap stick is relevant.

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We had a high school social studies teacher that liked to challenge the status quo in really what amounts to an exercise where the prevailing dogma cannot be proved by the people in the class. His little exercise was famous at Conant. He would challenge the students in the class room to prove that the moon was a sphere instead of flat. No matter what argument you would make, he would have the handy counterpoint. "The space program was staged, etc , etc."

And that's what this thread is all about. Common sense tells us that the United States would be a lawless place without the police. But since we can't run the actual experiment, there is no way to prove that to be the case.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

I just gave you the real life example of Irvine, California that has a very minimal police presence. Why isn't Irvine a lawless place?

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Freedom is our Strength.

Don't worry. We'll have Kevin as the bailiff to keep order.

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Freedom is our Strength.

You have the logic backwards, and you know it. They add cops due to increased crime. If Irvine heats up, they'll need to add more police. I also think the Capitol is a really bad example because you're going to always have a heightened security presence with so many important leaders situated in one place.

Go ahead and keep arguing something that is so ridiculous that you should be commended just for trying. I guess you got tired of the wins stuff and needed a new red herring to rile up the masses.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

That'll definitely help.

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What? You're suggesting that without cops there is anarchy. By your logic the place with less cops should be closer to anarchy. Is Irvine some utopia? How is it that they don't require much policing?

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Freedom is our Strength.

My wife is from Irvine. Everyone there is college educated and solid middle class. University town with virtually no poor people. The place was invented as a safe place for Whitey back in the 1970s but Asians have infiltrated today. Everyone there has too much to lose by committing crime.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

It's simple JORR to just about any person but the firmest of devil's advocates. DC has more crime than 97% of other cities. Irvine is safer than 56%.

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/dc/washington/crime/

You're trying to compare a very high crime area with a mid tier crime city. But have at it. I am sure DC is violent because of the police presence. You're almost there to creating your utopian society where you sit at 81 Cub home games a year while saying it is a shitty franchise with a terrible ballpark, while the rest of us 3%-ers do not deserve our paychecks.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

So, it's not police that stop crime. It's people having a good standard of living.

Speaking of Irvine, did you follow the Kelli Peters v. Kent & Jill Easter story? Fascinating.

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Freedom is our Strength.

I'm comparing police officers per capita. D.C. has more cops and more crime. Maybe cops create crime.

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Freedom is our Strength.

the crowd is turning on JORR !

There isn't much crime in well off areas. Give a man a decent wage and he becomes a model citizen.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

I'm not in favor of abolishing the police, but it's not the radical, ridiculous idea that it's being made to be. MANY have proposed similar things before.

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Cops certainly create crime. Putting people in prison and fining them is good for business.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Spoke with JORR offline about this and I have a better understanding of what he's saying and generally agree with it.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Who bought the drinks?

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

What's the difference between Lincoln Park and Englewood? Why do you think there is more crime in one in comparison to the other? How do the police interact with the residents of both communities? What's the police presence like in both? Which community do you feel safer in?

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

There goes another white, liberal Democrat talking down to the poor and thinking they aren't intelligent enough to see through his BS.

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Most board members couldn't find Englewood with a GPS.

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