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Voting against Hillary: bad
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Is that the Hillary platform?


IF you love America this is true.
I would have said this before but Trump becoming much more moderate has made me question this.

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It requires a certain level of duplicity for the pro-Trump crowd to couch their support in anti Hillarism. Talk about your Machiavellian style politics. They secretly want Trump to win but they can't say it for fear of being called out for supporting such a dumbass. Is there really any doubt as to whom they will pull the lever for at this point?


You just can't accept that many of us would never vote for Trump but that we still recognize what a horrible person and candidate Hillary is, can you?


All you have to do is monitor the lack of criticism that he receives. This is his thread and and the vast majority of talk is about Clinton. Look at the glee that some have taken in seeing the tightening of the race. Evidence doesn't support your claims. The fact is that she will likely be the next President. She will be the next President because she will receive the most votes. All of the conspiracy and subterfuge matters not once the people vote. They want her because they believe that she is the best person for the job. If the Republican crowd wanted to win they should have nominated a better candidate.

The Republican establishment types are running away from Trump. How much has that been discussed during this particular thread? The level that they are deserting him is unprecendented. His support is conducted with gritted teeth and his surrogates look like idiots trying to clean up the stupid shit that comes out of his mouth. Hillary may not be anyone's cup of tea but this dude is the worst candidate in any living person's lifetime. He doesn't know shit about how to run a govt. It can't be dismissed with the ease that some of you appear to do it.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Voting against Hillary: bad
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Is that the Hillary platform?


That, "will breaking up the big banks end racism and sexism? NO!", and "single-payer will NEVER, EVER come to pass."

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It requires a certain level of duplicity for the pro-Trump crowd to couch their support in anti Hillarism. Talk about your Machiavellian style politics. They secretly want Trump to win but they can't say it for fear of being called out for supporting such a dumbass. Is there really any doubt as to whom they will pull the lever for at this point?


You just can't accept that many of us would never vote for Trump but that we still recognize what a horrible person and candidate Hillary is, can you?


All you have to do is monitor the lack of criticism that he receives. This is his thread and and the vast majority of talk is about Clinton. Look at the glee that some have taken in seeing the tightening of the race. Evidence doesn't support your claims. The fact is that she will likely be the next President. She will be the next President because she will receive the most votes. All of the conspiracy and subterfuge matters not once the people vote. They want her because they believe that she is the best person for the job. If the Republican crowd wanted to win they should have nominated a better candidate.

The Republican establishment types are running away from Trump. How much has that been discussed during this particular thread? The level that they are deserting him is unprecendented. His support is conducted with gritted teeth and his surrogates look like idiots trying to clean up the stupid shit that comes out of his mouth. Hillary may not be anyone's cup of tea but this dude is the worst candidate in any living person's lifetime. He doesn't know shit about how to run a govt. It can't be dismissed with the ease that some of you appear to do it.


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they 'want' her because she isn't Trump....period


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long time guy wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
long time guy wrote:
It requires a certain level of duplicity for the pro-Trump crowd to couch their support in anti Hillarism. Talk about your Machiavellian style politics. They secretly want Trump to win but they can't say it for fear of being called out for supporting such a dumbass. Is there really any doubt as to whom they will pull the lever for at this point?


You just can't accept that many of us would never vote for Trump but that we still recognize what a horrible person and candidate Hillary is, can you?


All you have to do is monitor the lack of criticism that he receives. This is his thread and and the vast majority of talk is about Clinton. Look at the glee that some have taken in seeing the tightening of the race. Evidence doesn't support your claims. The fact is that she will likely be the next President. She will be the next President because she will receive the most votes. All of the conspiracy and subterfuge matters not once the people vote. They want her because they believe that she is the best person for the job. If the Republican crowd wanted to win they should have nominated a better candidate.

The Republican establishment types are running away from Trump. How much has that been discussed during this particular thread? The level that they are deserting him is unprecendented. His support is conducted with gritted teeth and his surrogates look like idiots trying to clean up the stupid shit that comes out of his mouth. Hillary may not be anyone's cup of tea but this dude is the worst candidate in any living person's lifetime. He doesn't know shit about how to run a govt. It can't be dismissed with the ease that some of you appear to do it.


That cuts both ways. if the Democrats wanted to make sure we aren't stuck with Trump they should have nominated a better candidate. And it isn't like they didn't know. There was the whole "Draft Biden" conversation, remember?

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All you have to do is monitor the lack of criticism that he receives. This is his thread and and the vast majority of talk is about Clinton.

You know why? Because every political thread, no matter which candidate's name is in the title, turns into a referendum on Hillary because you come in and shit up the joint with your horseshit allegations of "anti-Hillarism." The Bernie thread was about Hillary, the Trump thread is about Hillary, if we had a fucking Mike Huckabee thread, that was about Hillary, and you yourself are a big part of the reason why.

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I would have said this before but Trump becoming much more moderate has made me question this.


how does Trump becoming more moderate make him any less of a douchebag with impulse control issues who'd be an embarrassment as President.


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I would have said this before but Trump becoming much more moderate has made me question this.


how does Trump becoming more moderate make him any less of a douchebag with impulse control issues who'd be an embarrassment as President.
Maybe he'll stop being those things too soon?

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they 'want' her because she isn't Trump....period


You are wrong just like the majority that post about her. The fact of the matter is that she received more votes than Obama more votes than Sanders and will receive more votes than Trump. She has a base of support contrary to what MANY believe. It is underreported because the spin is that she is some sort of default candidate. People vote for the person they want in office.

Its interesting how toxic Trump appears to people now. He is the same toxic Motherfucker a year ago too. Didn't seem to bother people much then did it? Republicans have no one to blame but themselves. Better candidates were available and they were more interested in protesting. He was possibly the worst guy in the field.

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In all seriousness, the main reason I may vote for Trump is what ltg is saying in this thread. Consider it a vote against Hillary and long time guy.

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All you have to do is monitor the lack of criticism that he receives. This is his thread and and the vast majority of talk is about Clinton.

You know why? Because every political thread, no matter which candidate's name is in the title, turns into a referendum on Hillary because you come in and shit up the joint with your horseshit allegations of "anti-Hillarism." The Bernie thread was about Hillary, the Trump thread is about Hillary, if we had a fucking Mike Huckabee thread, that was about Hillary, and you yourself are a big part of the reason why.


I keep the focus on Trump you don't. I provided information about Trump paying for an Attorney General and it was completely ignored by you and other Trump supporters. I think it is safe to take a few liberties with such declarations at this point. I never referenced Hillary. It didn't take long for the requisite Hillary bashers to show up and start the attack. I could embarass you by bumping the portion but you've already done this by finding a correlation where one doesn't quite exist.

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In all seriousness, the main reason I may vote for Trump is what ltg is saying in this thread. Consider it a vote against Hillary and long time guy.


Being on the losing end of things is part of your modus operandi.

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In all seriousness, the main reason I may vote for Trump is what ltg is saying in this thread. Consider it a vote against Hillary and long time guy.


Being on the losing end of things is part of your modus operandi.
Cool. Why are you so upset that someone doesn't like Hillary and doesn't want to vote for her then if this is a lock?

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All you have to do is monitor the lack of criticism that he receives. This is his thread and and the vast majority of talk is about Clinton.

You know why? Because every political thread, no matter which candidate's name is in the title, turns into a referendum on Hillary because you come in and shit up the joint with your horseshit allegations of "anti-Hillarism." The Bernie thread was about Hillary, the Trump thread is about Hillary, if we had a fucking Mike Huckabee thread, that was about Hillary, and you yourself are a big part of the reason why.


I keep the focus on Trump you don't. I provided information about Trump paying for an Attorney General and it was completely ignored by you and other Trump supporters. I think it is safe to take a few liberties with such declarations at this point. I never referenced Hillary. It didn't take long for the requisite Hillary bashers to show up and start the attack. I could embarass you by bumping the portion but you've already done this by finding a correlation where one doesn't quite exist.


Curious Hair-another Trump voter*

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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In all seriousness, the main reason I may vote for Trump is what ltg is saying in this thread. Consider it a vote against Hillary and long time guy.


Being on the losing end of things is part of your modus operandi.
Cool. Why are you so upset that someone doesn't like Hillary and doesn't want to vote for her then if this is a lock?


Not liking her is a person's perogative. I can juxtapose this by asking why so many people are upset that I support her? She isn't a lock either.

I notice that the faults of Trump are never addressed. This is his thread and yet the focus is on Hillary Clinton. Whenever evidence is provided as to how terrible he is people ignore it. The same people by the way. They support him obviously. Let's put the cards on the table and get it over with.

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long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
long time guy wrote:
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In all seriousness, the main reason I may vote for Trump is what ltg is saying in this thread. Consider it a vote against Hillary and long time guy.


Being on the losing end of things is part of your modus operandi.
Cool. Why are you so upset that someone doesn't like Hillary and doesn't want to vote for her then if this is a lock?


Not liking her is a person's perogative. I can juxtapose this by asking why so many people are upset that I support her? She isn't a lock either.

I notice that the faults of Trump are never addressed. This is his thread and yet the focus is on Hillary Clinton. Whenever evidence is provided as to how terrible he is people ignore it. The same people by the way. They support him obviously. Let's put the cards on the table and get it over with.

because he's a joke! And every sane person knows it! But Hillary is our next president, you dope! This is why she's getting criticized, although lord knows Trump is on the news every day for saying something stupid.

If Trump had a shadow of a prayer for the white house, this would all be different.

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City of Fools wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
In all seriousness, the main reason I may vote for Trump is what ltg is saying in this thread. Consider it a vote against Hillary and long time guy.


Being on the losing end of things is part of your modus operandi.
Cool. Why are you so upset that someone doesn't like Hillary and doesn't want to vote for her then if this is a lock?


Not liking her is a person's perogative. I can juxtapose this by asking why so many people are upset that I support her? She isn't a lock either.

I notice that the faults of Trump are never addressed. This is his thread and yet the focus is on Hillary Clinton. Whenever evidence is provided as to how terrible he is people ignore it. The same people by the way. They support him obviously. Let's put the cards on the table and get it over with.

because he's a joke! And every sane person knows it! But Hillary is our next president, you dope! This is why she's getting criticized, although lord knows Trump is on the news every day for saying something stupid.

If Trump had a shadow of a prayer for the white house, this would all be different.


I think Trump does have a chance but the rest of what you say is true. This members of this forum largely lean left. To most of us the very idea of Trump is simply absurd.

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City of Fools wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
long time guy wrote:
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In all seriousness, the main reason I may vote for Trump is what ltg is saying in this thread. Consider it a vote against Hillary and long time guy.


Being on the losing end of things is part of your modus operandi.
Cool. Why are you so upset that someone doesn't like Hillary and doesn't want to vote for her then if this is a lock?


Not liking her is a person's perogative. I can juxtapose this by asking why so many people are upset that I support her? She isn't a lock either.

I notice that the faults of Trump are never addressed. This is his thread and yet the focus is on Hillary Clinton. Whenever evidence is provided as to how terrible he is people ignore it. The same people by the way. They support him obviously. Let's put the cards on the table and get it over with.

because he's a joke! And every sane person knows it! But Hillary is our next president, you dope! This is why she's getting criticized, although lord knows Trump is on the news every day for saying something stupid.

If Trump had a shadow of a prayer for the white house, this would all be different.



No it wouldn't. You keep saying this but whenever someone posts about Trump having a shot you are conspicuously silent. Anthony Weiner speaking out about the evils of internet porn would have more credibility.

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Don't city of fools yourself. Trump has a chance.

trump has no chances. C'mon. Will no one be real here? His platform cannot win. It is not the majority platform. It is mathematically impossible. He's leading in one poll out of what, 20? This won't be a close race, it's going to be a massacre. And even trump knows this.

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long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
In all seriousness, the main reason I may vote for Trump is what ltg is saying in this thread. Consider it a vote against Hillary and long time guy.


Being on the losing end of things is part of your modus operandi.
Cool. Why are you so upset that someone doesn't like Hillary and doesn't want to vote for her then if this is a lock?


Not liking her is a person's perogative. I can juxtapose this by asking why so many people are upset that I support her? She isn't a lock either.

I notice that the faults of Trump are never addressed. This is his thread and yet the focus is on Hillary Clinton. Whenever evidence is provided as to how terrible he is people ignore it. The same people by the way. They support him obviously. Let's put the cards on the table and get it over with.

because he's a joke! And every sane person knows it! But Hillary is our next president, you dope! This is why she's getting criticized, although lord knows Trump is on the news every day for saying something stupid.

If Trump had a shadow of a prayer for the white house, this would all be different.



No it wouldn't. You keep saying this but whenever someone posts about Trump having a shot you are conspicuously silent. Anthony Weiner speaking out about the evils of internet porn would have more credibility.

let's tally up the votes:

Curious Hair-voting for Trump
City of Fools-voting for Trump
Brick-voting for trump
JORR-Voting for Trump

Well, he's got four votes now!

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
In all seriousness, the main reason I may vote for Trump is what ltg is saying in this thread. Consider it a vote against Hillary and long time guy.


Being on the losing end of things is part of your modus operandi.
Cool. Why are you so upset that someone doesn't like Hillary and doesn't want to vote for her then if this is a lock?


Not liking her is a person's perogative. I can juxtapose this by asking why so many people are upset that I support her? She isn't a lock either.

I notice that the faults of Trump are never addressed. This is his thread and yet the focus is on Hillary Clinton. Whenever evidence is provided as to how terrible he is people ignore it. The same people by the way. They support him obviously. Let's put the cards on the table and get it over with.

because he's a joke! And every sane person knows it! But Hillary is our next president, you dope! This is why she's getting criticized, although lord knows Trump is on the news every day for saying something stupid.

If Trump had a shadow of a prayer for the white house, this would all be different.


I think Trump does have a chance but the rest of what you say is true. This members of this forum largely lean left. To most of us the very idea of Trump is simply absurd.


You're definitely wrong about the members of this forum.

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He can't win yet 65 pages have been exhausted ostensibly for the purpose of discussing why Hillary Clinton shouldn't be President. Talk about a misguided premise.

The constant bashing is support for Trump. Leash and Reader are the only people to really address "why" he would be a fucked up choice. The rest just provide a generalization or dismiss his candidacy as you keep doing.

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People think Hillary sucks because she does suck. She just happens to be up against King Suckage himself. She touts her experience but her supporters have to excuse away her entire record when she was SoS and a Senator. :lol: :lol:

I've yet to read a single thing that supports Hillary besides "Derp...first woman president derp derpy derp" or "Trump is a lunatic, Hillary has faults but shes not THAT bad". The thing is, I can't argue with either of those points. Trump is bad and Hillary is a woman but neither of those things are good reasons alone to vote for someone.

I think we are all upset because we realize that at the end of the day we are probably stuck with her as POTUS and there is little we can do to prevent it. It's possible that Trump can win but its not like that's a good alternative.


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He can't win yet 65 pages have been exhausted ostensibly for the purpose of discussing why Hillary Clinton shouldn't be President. Talk about a misguided premise.

The constant bashing is support for Trump. Leash and Reader are the only people to really address "why" he would be a fucked up choice. The rest just provide a generalization or dismiss his candidacy as you keep doing.
The eye test tells me that Trump is bad. That is all I need to see.

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He can't win yet 65 pages have been exhausted ostensibly for the purpose of discussing why Hillary Clinton shouldn't be President. Talk about a misguided premise.

The constant bashing is support for Trump. Leash and Reader are the only people to really address "why" he would be a fucked up choice. The rest just provide a generalization or dismiss his candidacy as you keep doing.
The eye test tells me that Trump is bad. That is all I need to see.


Hillary has a WAR of -4.7 and Trump has a WAR of -7.8. THE. STATS. ARE. OUT. THERE.

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He can't win yet 65 pages have been exhausted ostensibly for the purpose of discussing why Hillary Clinton shouldn't be President. Talk about a misguided premise.

The constant bashing is support for Trump. Leash and Reader are the only people to really address "why" he would be a fucked up choice. The rest just provide a generalization or dismiss his candidacy as you keep doing.

I will continue to dismiss it. He's a clown. It's all a charade, ltg. I'll say I told you so on election day.

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