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He can't win yet 65 pages have been exhausted ostensibly for the purpose of discussing why Hillary Clinton shouldn't be President. Talk about a misguided premise.

The constant bashing is support for Trump. Leash and Reader are the only people to really address "why" he would be a fucked up choice. The rest just provide a generalization or dismiss his candidacy as you keep doing.

I will continue to dismiss it. He's a clown. It's all a charade, ltg. I'll say I told you so on election day.


I think she'll probably win, but it's not the sure thing you're saying.

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What happens if no presidential candidate gets 270 Electoral votes?

If no candidate receives a majority of Electoral votes, the House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most Electoral votes. Each state delegation has one vote. The Senate would elect the Vice President from the 2 Vice Presidential candidates with the most Electoral votes. Each Senator would cast one vote for Vice President. If the House of Representatives fails to elect a President by Inauguration Day, the Vice-President Elect serves as acting President until the deadlock is resolved in the House.


My dream scenario is that neither candidate gets to 270 AND Johnson ends up winning a state or two and the House ends up picking him as president because they know he's the only sane choice. None of the Dems or GOP like Clinton or Trump.

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What happens if no presidential candidate gets 270 Electoral votes?

If no candidate receives a majority of Electoral votes, the House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most Electoral votes. Each state delegation has one vote. The Senate would elect the Vice President from the 2 Vice Presidential candidates with the most Electoral votes. Each Senator would cast one vote for Vice President. If the House of Representatives fails to elect a President by Inauguration Day, the Vice-President Elect serves as acting President until the deadlock is resolved in the House.


My dream scenario is that neither candidate gets to 270 AND Johnson ends up winning a state or two and the House ends up picking him as president because they know he's the only sane choice. None of the Dems or GOP like Clinton or Trump.


About 50-55 million votes will suggest otherwise.

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What happens if no presidential candidate gets 270 Electoral votes?

If no candidate receives a majority of Electoral votes, the House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most Electoral votes. Each state delegation has one vote. The Senate would elect the Vice President from the 2 Vice Presidential candidates with the most Electoral votes. Each Senator would cast one vote for Vice President. If the House of Representatives fails to elect a President by Inauguration Day, the Vice-President Elect serves as acting President until the deadlock is resolved in the House.


My dream scenario is that neither candidate gets to 270 AND Johnson ends up winning a state or two and the House ends up picking him as president because they know he's the only sane choice. None of the Dems or GOP like Clinton or Trump.


About 50-55 million votes will suggest otherwise.


Stop talking about the popular vote. The popular vote doesn't matter in the primary and it doesn't matter in the general election. 50-55 million people probably watched the Big Bang Theory too. That doesn't mean they aren't idiots for watching something stupid.

You are literally the only person I've encountered that seems to genuinely WANT Hillary to be president. Would you would choose her over any other candidate?

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He can't win yet 65 pages have been exhausted ostensibly for the purpose of discussing why Hillary Clinton shouldn't be President. Talk about a misguided premise.

The constant bashing is support for Trump. Leash and Reader are the only people to really address "why" he would be a fucked up choice. The rest just provide a generalization or dismiss his candidacy as you keep doing.

I will continue to dismiss it. He's a clown. It's all a charade, ltg. I'll say I told you so on election day.


I think she'll probably win, but it's not the sure thing you're saying.

we'll see who's right.

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He can't win yet 65 pages have been exhausted ostensibly for the purpose of discussing why Hillary Clinton shouldn't be President. Talk about a misguided premise.

The constant bashing is support for Trump. Leash and Reader are the only people to really address "why" he would be a fucked up choice. The rest just provide a generalization or dismiss his candidacy as you keep doing.

I will continue to dismiss it. He's a clown. It's all a charade, ltg. I'll say I told you so on election day.


I think she'll probably win, but it's not the sure thing you're saying.

we'll see who's right.


He agrees with you! You both are going to be right, ya dolt. :lol:

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no one said anything about corruption.

in both cases it's having a foreign government cover part of our own insane budget. the situations are not completely analogous; but close enough to make it retaliation fodder should Hillary call Trump on the carpet about his goofy-ass "make the mexicans peso-up for the wall" idea.


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The ignorance with regards to politics is truly is awe inspiring. Requesting that Libya pay us back for overthrowing Quaddafi is now somehow viewed as evidence of corruption. Newsflash this sort of thing happens all the time. In a perverse way I kind of want to see Trump get elected. I really do. It will demonstrate for the world just how much this country has "evolved".


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no one said anything about corruption.

in both cases it's having a foreign government cover part of our own insane budget. the situations are not completely analogous; but close enough to make it retaliation fodder should Hillary call Trump on the carpet about his goofy-ass "make the mexicans peso-up for the wall" idea.



What makes Trump's idea goofy is that no one thinks that Mexico will pay. IN the case of Libya is may not be out of line since we did in fact lead the effort to overthrow its dictator. They aren't analogous

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It was a European operation with "us" jumping in at the last moment because of agitation by Clinton/Rice/Powers at behest of Blumenthal and the big money concerns. Obama wanted no part of it originally. It was a brain dead email, written by an idiot that worked for an idiot and brain damaged SoS. Only idiots would even defend the notion.

So, according to you "Libya" which isn't really "Libya" but a collection of shattered territory (a weak recognized govt. non-withstanding) and ISIS strongholds should pay "us" for blowing their nation to bits? Is that what I'm getting here? It's okay to destroy nations and cause humanitarian catastrophes to enrich big corporations/donors and then have whats left of the "nation" in question pay us for it? If not, please expound.
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https://www.facebook.com/ProudLiberals/videos/1095191080569248/?autoplay_reason=gatekeeper&video_container_type=0&video_creator_product_type=2&app_id=2392950137

#Trumpets



Huh, how'd they find one of NAZI cop's buddies way out in LA.


They're all over. That video illustrates why the Trumpets would never abandon Trump.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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He can't win yet 65 pages have been exhausted ostensibly for the purpose of discussing why Hillary Clinton shouldn't be President. Talk about a misguided premise.

The constant bashing is support for Trump. Leash and Reader are the only people to really address "why" he would be a fucked up choice. The rest just provide a generalization or dismiss his candidacy as you keep doing.

I will continue to dismiss it. He's a clown. It's all a charade, ltg. I'll say I told you so on election day.


I think she'll probably win, but it's not the sure thing you're saying.

we'll see who's right.


He agrees with you! You both are going to be right, ya dolt. :lol:

he says probably. I say landslide. I say it's a sure thing. He says no.

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Trump is a terrible and dangerous candidate that could quite literally possibly endanger our entire republic's existence. Hillary is a slightly better candidate who is truly awful, but she is definitely a better candidate than Trump. Hank is right and Gary Johnson is the only logical choice.


What's truly baffling about this thread is that ltg is going to read the above few sentences and surmise that I am an anti-Hillarism Trump voter.

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A vote for anyone else but Hillary is a vote for Trump

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A vote for anyone else is a vote for Trump

It's always hard to tell if you're serious but this is certainly the prevailing attitude among Hillary supporters, which is a big reason MANY of us wouldn't consider voting for her.

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A vote for anyone else is a vote for Trump

It's always hard to tell if you're serious but this is certainly the prevailing attitude among Hillary supporters, which is a big reason MANY of us wouldn't consider voting for her.


That makes you a Trumpet Lite.

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Trump is a terrible and dangerous candidate that could quite literally possibly endanger our entire republic's existence. Hillary is a slightly better candidate who is truly awful, but she is definitely a better candidate than Trump. Hank is right and Gary Johnson is the only logical choice.


What's truly baffling about this thread is that ltg is going to read the above few sentences and surmise that I am an anti-Hillarism Trump voter.


uh-oh...

Add FF and Hank to the list of four people who SAY they're not voting for Trump BUT REALLY ARE! Perhaps I should revise my forecast on the Hillary victory...that makes six!

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Maybe a Trump presidency wouldn't be too awful.

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Funny how similar Trump sounds to Bill Clinton...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZXbG5gvoC0

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no one said anything about corruption.

in both cases it's having a foreign government cover part of our own insane budget. the situations are not completely analogous; but close enough to make it retaliation fodder should Hillary call Trump on the carpet about his goofy-ass "make the mexicans peso-up for the wall" idea.


long time guy wrote:
The ignorance with regards to politics is truly is awe inspiring. Requesting that Libya pay us back for overthrowing Quaddafi is now somehow viewed as evidence of corruption. Newsflash this sort of thing happens all the time. In a perverse way I kind of want to see Trump get elected. I really do. It will demonstrate for the world just how much this country has "evolved".


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no one said anything about corruption.

in both cases it's having a foreign government cover part of our own insane budget. the situations are not completely analogous; but close enough to make it retaliation fodder should Hillary call Trump on the carpet about his goofy-ass "make the mexicans peso-up for the wall" idea.



What makes Trump's idea goofy is that no one thinks that Mexico will pay. IN the case of Libya is may not be out of line since we did in fact lead the effort to overthrow its dictator. They aren't analogous

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It was a European operation with "us" jumping in at the last moment because of agitation by Clinton/Rice/Powers at behest of Blumenthal and the big money concerns. Obama wanted no part of it originally. It was a brain dead email, written by an idiot that worked for an idiot and brain damaged SoS. Only idiots would even defend the notion.

So, according to you "Libya" which isn't really "Libya" but a collection of shattered territory (a weak recognized govt. non-withstanding) and ISIS strongholds should pay "us" for blowing their nation to bits? Is that what I'm getting here? It's okay to destroy nations and cause humanitarian catastrophes to enrich big corporations/donors and then have whats left of the "nation" in question pay us for it? If not, please expound.


To be honest I wasn't in favor of the Libyan invasion. Obama violated the war powers act in my opinion. It was his call and not hers. Her judgment was wrong in supporting and encouraging the invasion.

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What happens if no presidential candidate gets 270 Electoral votes?

If no candidate receives a majority of Electoral votes, the House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most Electoral votes. Each state delegation has one vote. The Senate would elect the Vice President from the 2 Vice Presidential candidates with the most Electoral votes. Each Senator would cast one vote for Vice President. If the House of Representatives fails to elect a President by Inauguration Day, the Vice-President Elect serves as acting President until the deadlock is resolved in the House.


My dream scenario is that neither candidate gets to 270 AND Johnson ends up winning a state or two and the House ends up picking him as president because they know he's the only sane choice. None of the Dems or GOP like Clinton or Trump.


About 50-55 million votes will suggest otherwise.


Stop talking about the popular vote. The popular vote doesn't matter in the primary and it doesn't matter in the general election. 50-55 million people probably watched the Big Bang Theory too. That doesn't mean they aren't idiots for watching something stupid.

You are literally the only person I've encountered that seems to genuinely WANT Hillary to be president. Would you would choose her over any other candidate?


Yeah.

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Not in Illinois.

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To be honest I wasn't in favor of the Libyan invasion. Obama violated the war powers act in my opinion. It was his call and not hers. Her judgment was wrong in supporting and encouraging the invasion.



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A vote for anyone else but Hillary is a vote for Trump


Not in Illinois.


I think Johnson will siphon off more votes from the right than from the left. Clinton is trying to push that narrative so people like me will eventually cave and vote for her instead of Johnson.

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Not in Illinois.



True.

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A vote for anyone else but Hillary is a vote for Trump


Not in Illinois.


I think Johnson will siphon off more votes from the right than from the left. Clinton is trying to push that narrative so people like me will eventually cave and vote for her instead of Johnson.


Don't discount Stein. The under 40 blacks and the Sanders voters love her.

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A vote for anyone else but Hillary is a vote for Trump


Not in Illinois.


I think Johnson will siphon off more votes from the right than from the left. Clinton is trying to push that narrative so people like me will eventually cave and vote for her instead of Johnson.


Don't discount Stein. The under 40 blacks and the Sanders voters love her.


Shes not even on the ballot in all 50... There is only one serious third party alternative and it isn't the nutjob that thinks wifi causes cancer and is anti-vax.

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A vote for anyone else but Hillary is a vote for Trump


Not in Illinois.


I think Johnson will siphon off more votes from the right than from the left. Clinton is trying to push that narrative so people like me will eventually cave and vote for her instead of Johnson.


Don't discount Stein. The under 40 blacks and the Sanders voters love her.

It's hard to take you seriously when you suggest anyone other than Hillary wins Illinois.

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A vote for anyone else but Hillary is a vote for Trump


Not in Illinois.


I think Johnson will siphon off more votes from the right than from the left. Clinton is trying to push that narrative so people like me will eventually cave and vote for her instead of Johnson.


Don't discount Stein. The under 40 blacks and the Sanders voters love her.

It's hard to take you seriously when you suggest anyone other than Hillary wins Illinois.


Who said that?

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I think he's saying Stein could siphon off some of these voters from the Dems:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/05/us/po ... crats.html

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