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Buffalo Grove and Deerfield are "defined residential communities," too, I suppose.




Actually we had a few minorities in Deerfield back in the day. Its why my family moved across the highway to Riverwoods back in 77.


As for Buffalo Grove, that's west of Milwaukee Avenue where all people, no matter race or creed, are of the same level of trash. My wife is from BG and I'm constantly reminding her that she's a west of Milwaukee Ave jew.

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Buffalo Grove and Deerfield are "defined residential communities," too, I suppose.


Actually we had a few minorities in Deerfield back in the day.


Are you a classmate of bernstein?

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Actually we had a few minorities in Deerfield back in the day. Its why my family moved across the highway to Riverwoods back in 77.


As for Buffalo Grove, that's west of Milwaukee Avenue where all people, no matter race or creed, are of the same level of trash. My wife is from BG and I'm constantly reminding her that she's a west of Milwaukee Ave Jew.


(sigh) It never ceases to amaze me what some people won't do for their own damn kids. To tell the kids at camp you're from Arlington Heights... (sigh) you may as well be from Kansas. Or members of Kansas. And sure, I know what you're thinking, DIS IS AMERICA, BERNSTINE, ANYONES CAN LIVES ANYWHERES, but in my America there aren't crosses burning on every lawn and I'm going to make damn sure of that fact. Kiss my ass if you don't like it. There are ways of encountering brown people that don't...(sigh) that don't entail having to explain to your parents why there's a South Barrington.

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Actually we had a few minorities in Deerfield back in the day. Its why my family moved across the highway to Riverwoods back in 77.


As for Buffalo Grove, that's west of Milwaukee Avenue where all people, no matter race or creed, are of the same level of trash. My wife is from BG and I'm constantly reminding her that she's a west of Milwaukee Ave Jew.


(sigh) It never ceases to amaze me what some people won't do for their own damn kids. To tell the kids at camp you're from Arlington Heights... (sigh) you may as well be from Kansas. Or members of Kansas. And sure, I know what you're thinking, DIS IS AMERICA, BERNSTINE, ANYONES CAN LIVES ANYWHERES, but in my America there aren't crosses burning on every lawn and I'm going to make damn sure of that fact. Kiss my ass if you don't like it. There are ways of encountering brown people that don't...(sigh) that don't entail having to explain to your parents why there's a South Barrington.


:lol: When people say "good neighborhood" what do you think they mean?

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Buffalo Grove and Deerfield are "defined residential communities," too, I suppose.


Actually we had a few minorities in Deerfield back in the day.


Are you a classmate of bernstein?


No, I think he was a couple years older than me. My first introduction to Dan Bernstein was when I read a blurb in the Deerfield Review (pioneer press) that Duke student Dan Bernstein had recently won a Dick Vitale sound a like contest at Cameron Indoor.

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holy shit that's hilarious. what a shit contest to win. Sounds like something from The Onion.


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The film "Dear White People" dealt with a lot of these issues. It was an interesting film--too many flat characters kept it from being really good--but worth watching. Funny, too.

When it comes to identity, it can be easy to get swept up into something larger than yourself.

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UPDATE: Dicks out for Harambe is ok again, probably

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Colleges have gone insane.

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http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57d03c69e4b03d2d4597b491

:lol:

One of the commenters in the article....

When black students prefer to live with other black students by choice, it is because of many factors. From being able to do your hair without explaining it to a roommate to not dealing with the smell of unfamiliar foods cooking to listening to the music you like --- all of these choices will make adjustments to a new environment more palatable. White folks it isn't always about you. When high school black students eat together or black folks in the workplace socialize together, it is because they want to be together, not because they don't want to be with whites. And those of you wanted PROOF of attacks or an explanation of micro aggressions don't get to make that demand. Remember, it is not about you.


:lol: Isnt that pretty much the very fucking definition of segregation? Or more succinctly, if you replaced whites every time she used black people how would that fly?

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57d03c69e4b03d2d4597b491

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Colleges have gone insane.


I would love to hear what people who were the first to integrate colleges in the 50s and 60s think of this.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57d03c69e4b03d2d4597b491

:lol:

One of the commenters in the article....

When black students prefer to live with other black students by choice, it is because of many factors. From being able to do your hair without explaining it to a roommate to not dealing with the smell of unfamiliar foods cooking to listening to the music you like --- all of these choices will make adjustments to a new environment more palatable. White folks it isn't always about you. When high school black students eat together or black folks in the workplace socialize together, it is because they want to be together, not because they don't want to be with whites. And those of you wanted PROOF of attacks or an explanation of micro aggressions don't get to make that demand. Remember, it is not about you.


:lol: Isnt that pretty much the very fucking definition of segregation? Or more succinctly, if you replaced whites every time she used black people how would that fly?



It's insanity.

We need a plague.

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http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57d03c69e4b03d2d4597b491

:lol:

I think that in the early 1960s, one of the things gays rallied around was the "choice" argument, that being gay was a lifestyle choice, neither better nor worse than other lifestyle choices, but a choice nonetheless, and one they had a right to. By the late 60s or early 70s, the "genetic" argument began to take over, and gay people today say "I was born this way." So, for many gays, the rationale flipped completely (from choice to lack of choice). I guess the gay community was responding to different challenges.

This segregated dorm argument reminds me of the stuff above. Apparently, blacks today are responding to different challenges than blacks in the 1960s and 1970s were. I can buy that. And I certainly know what it's like to feel verbally harassed by others. Such harassment can have significantly negative life-long effects on many people.

But I just don't see institutionally-sanctioned segregated dorms as a good idea, though. We really shouldn't be going full circle on this issue. Surely there are other solutions to dealing with the aggression (both intended and unintended) of others? And if someone has his (or her? sorry, trying to be PC) dick out for Harambe, why on earth would you be insulted? Give it right back to them.

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#DicksOut4Harambe

I really wish I could be at Purdue this weekend. They are playing Cincy so there would have to be a large number of Harambe themed Breakfast Club costumes. At least Mitch Daniels has the sense to not allow social justice cancer to metastasize to the campus.

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SJWs have managed to accomplish what KKK crazies tried to do with Jim Crow over a century ago.

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"Defined Residential Communities" sound like what college is supposed to both get you away from and educate you against.


http://www.newser.com/story/229576/coll ... folks.html

Newser) – A want-ad for a new roommate spurred a passionate debate about racism, safe spaces, and what it's like to be a person of color in America this week at a small college in California. The Washington Post reports 20-year-old Pitzer College junior Karé Ureña posted on the Pitzer College Class of 2018 Facebook page looking for a roommate to live with her and two others in an off-campus house. The post specified they were looking for people of color only, according to the Claremont Independent. And Ureña, who is black, specified in a follow-up comment: "I don't want to live with any white folks." The post led to claims of discrimination, segregation, and reverse racism.

But Ureña and supporters fired back against those claims. "Seeking a living space that is all-POC is not only reasonable, but can be necessary,” she tells the Post. "Our people are being killed. Our housing arrangements are not racist. They are not exclusive. We are simply fighting to exist." The Independent quotes another student as saying: “We don’t want to have to tiptoe around fragile white feelings in a space where we just want to relax." Pitzer President Melvin Oliver, the first black president at a Claremont college, says Ureña's post and the comments that followed "are inconsistent with our mission and values," CBS News reports. Ureña has since deleted the post. (A study shows a 10-minute in-person chat could reduce prejudice.)

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57d03c69e4b03d2d4597b491

:lol:

I think that in the early 1960s, one of the things gays rallied around was the "choice" argument, that being gay was a lifestyle choice, neither better nor worse than other lifestyle choices, but a choice nonetheless, and one they had a right to. By the late 60s or early 70s, the "genetic" argument began to take over, and gay people today say "I was born this way." So, for many gays, the rationale flipped completely (from choice to lack of choice). I guess the gay community was responding to different challenges.

This segregated dorm argument reminds me of the stuff above. Apparently, blacks today are responding to different challenges than blacks in the 1960s and 1970s were. I can buy that. And I certainly know what it's like to feel verbally harassed by others. Such harassment can have significantly negative life-long effects on many people.

But I just don't see institutionally-sanctioned segregated dorms as a good idea, though. We really shouldn't be going full circle on this issue. Surely there are other solutions to dealing with the aggression (both intended and unintended) of others? And if someone has his (or her? sorry, trying to be PC) dick out for Harambe, why on earth would you be insulted? Give it right back to them.


It reminds me of Richmond Flowers Sr. who famously told George Wallace that state-sponsored segregation was unnecessary. "People will segregate themselves."

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I really wish I could be at Purdue this weekend. They are playing Cincy so there would have to be a large number of Harambe themed Breakfast Club costumes. At least Mitch Daniels has the sense to not allow social justice cancer to metastasize to the campus.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57d03c69e4b03d2d4597b491

:lol:

I think that in the early 1960s, one of the things gays rallied around was the "choice" argument, that being gay was a lifestyle choice, neither better nor worse than other lifestyle choices, but a choice nonetheless, and one they had a right to. By the late 60s or early 70s, the "genetic" argument began to take over, and gay people today say "I was born this way." So, for many gays, the rationale flipped completely (from choice to lack of choice). I guess the gay community was responding to different challenges.

This segregated dorm argument reminds me of the stuff above. Apparently, blacks today are responding to different challenges than blacks in the 1960s and 1970s were. I can buy that. And I certainly know what it's like to feel verbally harassed by others. Such harassment can have significantly negative life-long effects on many people.

But I just don't see institutionally-sanctioned segregated dorms as a good idea, though. We really shouldn't be going full circle on this issue. Surely there are other solutions to dealing with the aggression (both intended and unintended) of others? And if someone has his (or her? sorry, trying to be PC) dick out for Harambe, why on earth would you be insulted? Give it right back to them.


It reminds me of Richmond Flowers Sr. who famously told George Wallace that state-sponsored segregation was unnecessary. "People will segregate themselves."

As long as the state is not actively helping people self-segregate...

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"Defined Residential Communities" sound like what college is supposed to both get you away from and educate you against.


http://www.newser.com/story/229576/coll ... folks.html

Newser) – A want-ad for a new roommate spurred a passionate debate about racism, safe spaces, and what it's like to be a person of color in America this week at a small college in California. The Washington Post reports 20-year-old Pitzer College junior Karé Ureña posted on the Pitzer College Class of 2018 Facebook page looking for a roommate to live with her and two others in an off-campus house. The post specified they were looking for people of color only, according to the Claremont Independent. And Ureña, who is black, specified in a follow-up comment: "I don't want to live with any white folks." The post led to claims of discrimination, segregation, and reverse racism.

But Ureña and supporters fired back against those claims. "Seeking a living space that is all-POC is not only reasonable, but can be necessary,” she tells the Post. "Our people are being killed. Our housing arrangements are not racist. They are not exclusive. We are simply fighting to exist." The Independent quotes another student as saying: “We don’t want to have to tiptoe around fragile white feelings in a space where we just want to relax." Pitzer President Melvin Oliver, the first black president at a Claremont college, says Ureña's post and the comments that followed "are inconsistent with our mission and values," CBS News reports. Ureña has since deleted the post. (A study shows a 10-minute in-person chat could reduce prejudice.)


So ridiculous. Why do we have to call it "reverse-racism"? It's just racism. Hatred of other races. Should not be able to say it's ok to be racist because "our people are being killed" because it simply is not true.

Living together in the dorms should be a positive experience for everyone. If you can't have fun in college with the other people on your dorm then you are probably just an asshole.

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sinicalypse wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
"Defined Residential Communities" sound like what college is supposed to both get you away from and educate you against.


http://www.newser.com/story/229576/coll ... folks.html

Newser) – A want-ad for a new roommate spurred a passionate debate about racism, safe spaces, and what it's like to be a person of color in America this week at a small college in California. The Washington Post reports 20-year-old Pitzer College junior Karé Ureña posted on the Pitzer College Class of 2018 Facebook page looking for a roommate to live with her and two others in an off-campus house. The post specified they were looking for people of color only, according to the Claremont Independent. And Ureña, who is black, specified in a follow-up comment: "I don't want to live with any white folks." The post led to claims of discrimination, segregation, and reverse racism.

But Ureña and supporters fired back against those claims. "Seeking a living space that is all-POC is not only reasonable, but can be necessary,” she tells the Post. "Our people are being killed. Our housing arrangements are not racist. They are not exclusive. We are simply fighting to exist." The Independent quotes another student as saying: “We don’t want to have to tiptoe around fragile white feelings in a space where we just want to relax." Pitzer President Melvin Oliver, the first black president at a Claremont college, says Ureña's post and the comments that followed "are inconsistent with our mission and values," CBS News reports. Ureña has since deleted the post. (A study shows a 10-minute in-person chat could reduce prejudice.)


So ridiculous. Why do we have to call it "reverse-racism"? It's just racism. Hatred of other races. Should not be able to say it's ok to be racist because "our people are being killed" because it's simply is not true.

Living together in the dorms should be a positive experience for everyone. If you can't have fun in college with the other people on your dorm then you are probably just an asshole.


Well, it could be argued that this isn't racism but an attempt to escape from constant racism. But it's not really a good answer. Eventually, you're going into the world and whitey is all over the place.

And this: “We don’t want to have to tiptoe around fragile _______ feelings in a space where we just want to relax." is the basis for every exclusionary club there is. She's making an argument for keeping Tiger Woods out of Augusta.

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"Defined Residential Communities" sound like what college is supposed to both get you away from and educate you against.


http://www.newser.com/story/229576/coll ... folks.html

Newser) – A want-ad for a new roommate spurred a passionate debate about racism, safe spaces, and what it's like to be a person of color in America this week at a small college in California. The Washington Post reports 20-year-old Pitzer College junior Karé Ureña posted on the Pitzer College Class of 2018 Facebook page looking for a roommate to live with her and two others in an off-campus house. The post specified they were looking for people of color only, according to the Claremont Independent. And Ureña, who is black, specified in a follow-up comment: "I don't want to live with any white folks." The post led to claims of discrimination, segregation, and reverse racism.

But Ureña and supporters fired back against those claims. "Seeking a living space that is all-POC is not only reasonable, but can be necessary,” she tells the Post. "Our people are being killed. Our housing arrangements are not racist. They are not exclusive. We are simply fighting to exist." The Independent quotes another student as saying: “We don’t want to have to tiptoe around fragile white feelings in a space where we just want to relax." Pitzer President Melvin Oliver, the first black president at a Claremont college, says Ureña's post and the comments that followed "are inconsistent with our mission and values," CBS News reports. Ureña has since deleted the post. (A study shows a 10-minute in-person chat could reduce prejudice.)


So ridiculous. Why do we have to call it "reverse-racism"? It's just racism. Hatred of other races. Should not be able to say it's ok to be racist because "our people are being killed" because it simply is not true.

Living together in the dorms should be a positive experience for everyone. If you can't have fun in college with the other people on your dorm then you are probably just an asshole.


When people wonder why race relations in this country seem to have been deteriorating in recent years they should take a look at what has been happening on college campuses. Things like this and the circular logic used to try and justify it are one of the reasons for growing division.


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Now I know how people get to 65 years old and think the world is going to hell. As you get older, you see things happening with younger folks and specifically in places like college that just make your jaw drop. How anyone could go away to college and want to be sheltered from other cultures and points of view is beyond me? It is exactly why you leave your family home- to experience something new and different and see the world in another way. If college becomes a bubble that protects you from the real world, then what exactly is it preparing you for?

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The proof is in the pudding. Objectively analyze the academic and socio economic results of segregated community living on campuses and see how it performs. That won't happen. Better to live in the ignorant world of "I feel".

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