This is all becoming a bit..... problematic for LTG.

Which is all interesting because LTG's views on MANY issues take the side of the oligarchs and existing power structures. Also, there is a lot of Dick Cheney/Neo-Con in him as well.

Fits right in with his absolute and total devotion to Hillary Clinton,even in the face of overwhelming evidence that's she's a corrupt warhawk hack and agent for the wealthy.

Interesting stuff.

Is Trump a racist? Is Trump an advocate of the poor?

I'm not interested much in labels. I'm an advocate for improving the lives of poor people. Black middle class grew under Bill Clinton's administration. Economy as a whole did better too. I'm just wondering how Trump is one "who feels your pain"? Rich dude that grew up rich is really going to be a champion for the poor. Who the hell are you crappin? His business practices have really been illustrative of a guy that doesn't routinely shit on people. yeah right

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If I had to label Trump I would go with opportunistic narcissist which come to think of it describes MANY politicians.

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He has been found guilty of racist discrimination in a court of law. His bigotry during this campaign is reminiscent of what occurred during the George Wallace and Bull Connor era. He is supported by every white supremacist organization in the country. He has a known racist for Campaign manager. I love the way that his racism is being pooh poohed on this message board. It is really a thing (not) of beauty. No one wants to call this dude for what he is which is a fucking racist. As long as they can avoid that then they can be excused for supporting his bigoted ass.

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I really haven't. You perceive any criticism of Hillary Clinton as a defense of Trump.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Or that dreaded ideology of hatred, "anti-Hillarism."

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If you want to be taken seriously, I wouldn't post stuff like this.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I told you this guy is a Bizzaro version of Reardon. No reason to talk to him.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Sure I can. As much as I have or will bash her I am not voting for or a supporter of Trump.

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Why? Mexico is sending rapists and criminals here, and let's ban all Muslims, is pretty fucking racist. I wasn't alive for George Wallace, but Trump is far and away the most outwardly racist candidate for pretty much any office of my lifetime. Ltg isn't wrong.

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Trump never said, "Ban all Muslims". He's talking specifically about refugees. The shit he says is bad enough without spinning it.

I respect LTG's opinions, but come on. George Wallace was running on an actual platform of white supremacy. I have Mexican friends that hate Trump and consider his statements on illegals to be somehow related to them. Trump is clumsy, has stupid "solutions", and the things he said about that Mexican-American judge were shameful. But let's be serious. We have borders. Do we want to eliminate all borders and just be people of the Earth? I'd be in favor of that. But I was ridiculed for suggesting a radical alteration of the way we police, I can just imagine what kind of response there would be to that idea. So at least theoretically, almost everyone here is in favor of borders. But if anyone can just come and go as they please, that really isn't a border, is it?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Yeah I love how I got painted into the supporting Trump corner here by LTG. He can be a narcissist AND a racist. But I really don't think Trump is driven by racial hatred as much as he sees and opportunity for exploiting the existing racial tension in this country to his own ends. Whether or not that distinction is important I am not certain.

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Hyperbole 101

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That's probably the only way a Republican can win the presidency short of Hillary Clinton handing over Alaska to Putin.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Well you know....maybe they should have thought about not alienating every minority group in the country as a long term strategy before we got to this point. Just sayin.

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You're wrong about the top part. He specifically said he would like to ban all Muslims from entering, not just refugees. For a guy who didn't want to defend Trump, your day isn't off to a blazing start.

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I don't believe you. You live in a swing state that could push one of the candidates past 270. There is no way that you are not doing what you can to prevent the Hill Dog from getting elected.

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

Hey moron. Mexico=not a race its a nationality. Muslim is not a race it is a religion so once again you are using incorrect language. Fucking use that GI bill and get an education.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

What happened to the new and improved Chas?

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

uh-oh.

LTG adds pittmike to the list of people who are not voting for Hillary WHO MUST THEREFORE BE VOTING FOR TRUMP! That makes 7!

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Mexicans are an ethnicity, and bigotry towards that ethnicity is racist, dipshit.

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Shuffleboard starts at two o'clock.

And Morty called, he said to tell chas, "Get off the internet you little bitch. My shoes aren't going to shine themselves!!"

Sincerely,
Management

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not sure if serious...

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

You are not sure if I am serious that I don't believe him?

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

To me, "ban all Muslims" means banning the religion. But the strongest thing he actually said regarding Muslim immigration was that he supported a "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on." I believe he has backed off from that to some degree.

And I don't think telling the truth is defending someone.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Well, you weren't telling the truth in your original post saying he was talking about refugees only. You just clarified it, and in that quote he's saying he's in favor of banning all Muslims, not just refugees.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

you believe he's voting for Trump?

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

I can't help you there. I am not voting.

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Elections have consequences.

Hillary thanks you for your support.

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Be that as it may my conscience is clear.

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