FavreFan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
ZephMarshack wrote:
America wrote:
Phil McCracken wrote:
So instead do nothing? That doesn't sound like a way to bring attention to the fact you think that the police in America are bullshit. In Kapernick's case though the rest of his career might not be that long considering he couldn't beat out Yo Gabba Gabbert on the depth chart.
Kneeling down
is doing nothing. The only people who really care about it are the easily riled up military buffoons and gullible whiners who continue to believe empty symoblic gestures like Kaepernick's mean anything. These two group will bicker with each other over literally anything, I would hardly call sparking another argument between the two a new movement.
You guys are being way too reductive about this being nothing. Yes, Kaepernick is not Ali,but to pretend this is as empty as any Twitter beef is too hasty, especially given that it's coming in a context in which nearly all athletes these days generally try to appease their front offices and sponsors above all else. Brandon Marshall is losing sponsors for what he's doing; that's actual economic consequences to his actions, which is a bit more impactful than getting some partisans on the internet saying mean things about you.
Yup. Lots of dumbass comments in this thread. I was clearly right about Kap starting a movement. Let's see:
- Went from one guy kneeling to dozens of players
- literally started a nationwide conversation about his protest
- a backup QB lead the league in jersey sales. Maybe Tebow did it, but I can't ever remember that happening
The whole "it won't change anything" is a statement that has no value. It doesn't mean anything. Of course it probably won't change anything. Police are always going to murder innocent civilians in our nation. We empowered them to do so, and power doesn't voluntarily relinquish power.
The nationwide conversation is about respect for the flag/anthem, not about the topic for which he is supposedly kneeling.
The donation of money from the sale of jersys will do much more towards solving the problem then a very hollow symbolic act.
You do understand what was responsible for all the money coming from those jersey sales, right?
Again, saying its hollow has proven untrue. MANY are joining his protest, he's donated over a million dollars(besides the jersey sales) and the 49ers have matched it, and other players are donating money now too to improve low income inner city communities.
But like I said, the protest is to get all of US to stop tacitly condoning murder by police officers, so you guys are right that nothing will change until WE, collectively, do. Which is to say it won't change for quite awhile. I don't understand disparaging their protest for our faults though.
He also could have stood a post during the real protests of the past two years to accomplish all of this.
His protest is trite, like the atheists putting up a display next to a manger scene or a high school kid giving the finger to authority. The world has been ablaze for the better part of two years with opportunities for meaningful protest no less than every month.
I disparage his form of protest not because I don't think his message is worthy but because it is so clichéd. If you really believe in the issue, get your hands dirty. Don't send prayers.
I don't get angry when I see third worlders burning American flags. I don't get angry when I see intellectuals walk on the flag. Similarly I don't get angry when someone doesn't stand for the anthem. The reason is they are all toothless gestures.
He didn't start any movement other than the hollow display movement. Like Sanders, he's riding a wave of a movement that started well before his sit down. The discussion was already national. In fact, changes to policing were already resulting from the HARD work others.
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