I'm asking LTG.

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

Jesus Christ could be running as a R and LTG would be running him down. He is the type of voter that keeps the like of Bobby Rush in office and Illinois is in such a fucked up state.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

And those Southern Republican states have really been doing such a bang up job in the area of local economy and schooling haven't they? They are really killing it with respect to race relations also.

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I asked you a question, LTG. Please answer it.

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

You are looking for generalizations guy. Some did. I had an uncle that was married with 5 kids. He lived quite well while on public assistance. Had Section 8 as well. He told my mother that it was better for him to be on public aid than it would be to work a job. He believed that he was doing better than she was and she was full time postal employee. It was the 70's and he very well may have been. We did pretty decent but considering the cheap rent stamps welfare checks he may quite well have done better. In this instance I can say with conviction that he didn't want to work. Not all cases were the same. I don't say this to vilify people on welfare. I will say that it shouldn't be a permanent condition.

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that's all I needed to know.

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

no she pulled in nowhere near that amount. she just pulled beni's on her 4 kids.

Are they married?

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Is trump a racist? I'm not saying he is...but a lot of people think he is...really smart people...so, I don't know...if it walks like a duck, you know? That's what people are saying.


Now as far as being a bigot...he's a terrific bigot...a really really great bigot.

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The POTUS looked great holding a putter while people in LA suffered from the flooding last month.

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Riiiight....potus should have been down there rescuing people in a row boat...Glad handing residents.. Filling sandbags...making it about himself.

He delegated and shit got done.

Do you have any idea what a big deal it is to organize and mobilize for a potus visit? How much it disrupts the local fire and safely personnel?

Way to regurgitate a spoonfed talking point.

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Don't be such a simpleton. And yes I do know what is involved in a Presidential visit.

There are no political points to be won there. Trying to re-write history isn't helpful either.

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Big difference. Then: clusterfuck...Now: efficient response. Did Obama admittedly leave himself open for partisan feigned outrage? Yup.

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He would have gotten it either way. That's the reality of the job.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

and the band played on

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Good one, dork!

Of course he would have. Except Bush got blamed for both responses.

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Huh? ....clusterfuck then n now...Bush should be next to Cheyney n Rumsfeld on the WH lawn hung for treason.

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Let's assume for a minute that Jesus was real, your stupid ass would be screaming to not allow that dune coon into the country n bomb the shit out of his homeland.


Who ya crappin' pal ?

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LTG would want to invade his homeland and then ask Jesus to lay him money for the privilege.

LTG is super fucked up.

Jesus Christ would say not to kill innocent civilians and long time guy would say "ugh, more anti-Hillarism. Looks like Jesus is another Trump supporter."

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And cough up the dough for your liberation!

Totally normal!

I don't think either of you answered as to whether Trump is a racist.

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You must have missed your man Trump talking about taking the oil the other night.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... dness.html
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... -legal-war

Someguy. Hypocrite amongst hypocrites.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u-LB6jkCGog

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Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

<º)))><

Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

LTG and I went round and round in the primaries over Hillary's bullshit. More than his blind allegiance to Hillary, his hatred of Sanders drove me insane. Still does.

That said, much of what he says is true. There is a reluctance to criticize Trump, and it's hard to pinpoint why. If I had to guess, I think Trump is viewed by many in the same way that liberals view Islam... there is a reluctance to criticize because they don't take him seriously. The problem is that he's on the cusp of being President of the United States. It's not only scary... it's embarrassing. Hillary is an evil liar... and yet she should be president 100 times out of 100 over this moronic sociopath. Donald Trump has already hurt America in big ways, and he hasn't even held office. He stirs up the racist and xenophobic loudmouths and continues to promote the ignorant beliefs of the uneducated. Words matter. You can sit here all day and talk about how awful the Clintons have been for minorities... and you'd be right... but it's still preferable to the tone Trump has made acceptable in a civilized country. His policy proposals are laughable and make the rest of the world nervous. If the argument is that he doesn't mean what he says, then I don't know what the hell we are supposed to judge people on. I can't accept a political climate where people say "Oh, don't worry... they don't mean anything they say." It's beyond absurd. I'll take the lying corporatist over the idiotic, bigoted corporatist with no sense of reality every time.

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I agree with all of that.

And I would suggest that it's sort of like me criticizing Quintana more than I criticize James Shields. James Shields requires no criticism. Anyone with a brain knows he's horseshit. But Quintana would be like Hillary. There are those constantly telling us how great she is in spite of a mountain of evidence to the contrary. That becomes frustrating. And this idea that if you find her to be anything less than awesome, you hate women is just bullshit. Hillary might be a .500 president, but I think most of us would like more than that.

Imagine if every time I mentioned Quintana losing another game to a supposedly lesser pitcher that LTG popped into the thread accusing me of thinking James Shields was better than Quintana.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

It's nothing like your fallacious Quintana nonsense at all.

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I've never made the argument that I'm voting for Hillary because she is a woman. I hate symbolic political votes as well identity politics.

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In fact, it's very much like that. And there's nothing "fallacious" about Quintana's 45-44 record. (He got a game over .500 last night! Woo-ee!) That is a fact not a fallacy. In half his games another pitcher pitches as well or better than he does. That hardly describes a "great" pitcher. Anyway, criticism of one person doesn't mean that there aren't others that suck worse.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don