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Well they can go on strike, it'd just be an illegal strike and they would assuredly be forced back to work.
Well their union could do a lot of illegal things and then be forced to stop. I don't know why that is relevant.
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However once they are back on the job there is nothing the government could to keep them from forming a new union.
They can do a lot to strip public sector unions of their power though like they do with it being illegal to strike.

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Because you can adversely affect somebody's life without killing them. I would say that police departments ruin more lives than terrorism does.

No fucking way. Entire wars are fought over terrorism, regimes are toppled and famines are spread. Cops shooting unarmed teenagers has nowhere near that scope.
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Because you can adversely affect somebody's life without killing them. I would say that police departments ruin more lives than terrorism does.

No fucking way. Entire wars are fought over terrorism, regimes are toppled and famines are spread. Cops shooting unarmed teenagers has nowhere near that scope.

Ok, I meant in the United States. In the US it's no argument which one is worse, but globally you are right that terrorism is worse.

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I watch those Cops marathons on Spike every once in a while. It dawned on me I've never seen the cops filming in a nice suburb, or arresting seemingly upper middle class people. They are 99% of the time patrolling poor neighborhoods. You could almost call it targeting.

Just an observation.


It does bring up some interesting thoughts though and why I made my advanced metrics comment earlier. People in charge know where most crime is and generally who is doing it. The FBI for chrissakes has a job of profiler that has targeting as their only job.

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I watch those Cops marathons on Spike every once in a while. It dawned on me I've never seen the cops filming in a nice suburb, or arresting seemingly upper middle class people. They are 99% of the time patrolling poor neighborhoods. You could almost call it targeting.

Just an observation.


And it is almost always in Florida.

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I watch those Cops marathons on Spike every once in a while. It dawned on me I've never seen the cops filming in a nice suburb, or arresting seemingly upper middle class people. They are 99% of the time patrolling poor neighborhoods. You could almost call it targeting.

Just an observation.


Judging a whole group of people by the actions and ideas of a few is prefectly acceptable.

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Jbi11s wrote:
I watch those Cops marathons on Spike every once in a while. It dawned on me I've never seen the cops filming in a nice suburb, or arresting seemingly upper middle class people. They are 99% of the time patrolling poor neighborhoods. You could almost call it targeting.

Just an observation.


Judging a whole group of people by the actions and ideas of a few is prefectly acceptable.

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Jbi11s wrote:
I watch those Cops marathons on Spike every once in a while. It dawned on me I've never seen the cops filming in a nice suburb, or arresting seemingly upper middle class people. They are 99% of the time patrolling poor neighborhoods. You could almost call it targeting.

Just an observation.


Judging a whole group of people by the actions and ideas of a few is prefectly acceptable.

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I watch those Cops marathons on Spike every once in a while. It dawned on me I've never seen the cops filming in a nice suburb, or arresting seemingly upper middle class people. They are 99% of the time patrolling poor neighborhoods. You could almost call it targeting.

Just an observation.


And it is almost always in Florida.

Yep. Always a scene every episode in FL and TX. Runners up are Cali, Washington, and Vegas. Vegas scenes are usually entertaining... Fuck, I gotta find something better to do with my days off.

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Jbi11s wrote:
I watch those Cops marathons on Spike every once in a while. It dawned on me I've never seen the cops filming in a nice suburb, or arresting seemingly upper middle class people. They are 99% of the time patrolling poor neighborhoods. You could almost call it targeting.

Just an observation.


Judging a whole group of people by the actions and ideas of a few is prefectly acceptable.

It's the American way.

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I watch those Cops marathons on Spike every once in a while. It dawned on me I've never seen the cops filming in a nice suburb, or arresting seemingly upper middle class people. They are 99% of the time patrolling poor neighborhoods. You could almost call it targeting.

Just an observation.


Judging a whole group of people by the actions and ideas of a few is prefectly acceptable.

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Exactly, Vegas.

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I think we are focusing on these high profile murders when we should take a step back. The killings ARE a small number but what is the number of times someone gets stopped for DWB? That's not something that can be quantified but I think if you took a straw poll among the lodge it would be pretty high. That's where the real frustration happens with police. A black person has a much higher chance of getting harassed by police then a white person does. I'd like to think that it is getting better but who the hell knows...

In Oak Forest and the surrounding areas, I'd say 90% of people I see pulled over are dark skinned
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
I think we are focusing on these high profile murders when we should take a step back. The killings ARE a small number but what is the number of times someone gets stopped for DWB? That's not something that can be quantified but I think if you took a straw poll among the lodge it would be pretty high. That's where the real frustration happens with police. A black person has a much higher chance of getting harassed by police then a white person does. I'd like to think that it is getting better but who the hell knows...

In Oak Forest and the surrounding areas, I'd say 90% of people I see pulled over are dark skinned


Do you yell at the police as you observe all those stops?

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Chus wrote:
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I watch those Cops marathons on Spike every once in a while. It dawned on me I've never seen the cops filming in a nice suburb, or arresting seemingly upper middle class people. They are 99% of the time patrolling poor neighborhoods. You could almost call it targeting.

Just an observation.


And it is almost always in Florida.


The best was the prostitution sting where they dressed the cop up as a clown to catch the whores. That was in Tampa,right across the bay from me. Cops is cool,even better is Jail. That shit is wild. There was one they asked this tiny little woman how much she had to drink and with a total straight face she went" not enough"

Couple things I learned from Cops:
Don't fuck around in Texas,they pull the taser quick
2 townies always lose in Vegas
3 If they say they got a dog and they are sending it in give up,if you touch the dog you get at least another felony

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The vast majority of people in this country do not treat the police as heroes.

In my experience they overwhelmingly do. It ramped up quite a bit after 9/11 (understandably) but most of the people in my circle have a military/ cop worship thing going on.

I work with a guy who said Obama disrespected the troops by saying "lives were wasted in the Iraq war"

That's the kind of mindset I see a lot
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
I think we are focusing on these high profile murders when we should take a step back. The killings ARE a small number but what is the number of times someone gets stopped for DWB? That's not something that can be quantified but I think if you took a straw poll among the lodge it would be pretty high. That's where the real frustration happens with police. A black person has a much higher chance of getting harassed by police then a white person does. I'd like to think that it is getting better but who the hell knows...

In Oak Forest and the surrounding areas, I'd say 90% of people I see pulled over are dark skinned


Do you yell at the police as you observe all those stops?

TBH, I usually think to myself "man I'm lucky to be white"

Also I drove for work for a long time so I saw a little more than the average


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The vast majority of people in this country do not treat the police as heroes.

In my experience they overwhelmingly do. It ramped up quite a bit after 9/11 (understandably) but most of the people in my circle have a military/ cop worship thing going on.

I work with a guy who said Obama disrespected the troops by saying "lives were wasted in the Iraq war"

That's the kind of mindset I see a lot


Some of the hillbillies in my club are over the top. They will seek out cops to go thank them for their service. Service? The guy is sitting there eating a funnel cake and hitting on teenage girls.

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The vast majority of people in this country do not treat the police as heroes.

In my experience they overwhelmingly do. It ramped up quite a bit after 9/11 (understandably) but most of the people in my circle have a military/ cop worship thing going on.

I work with a guy who said Obama disrespected the troops by saying "lives were wasted in the Iraq war"

That's the kind of mindset I see a lot

I see this often too. Like cops are some sort of sainted hero instead of just a workaday schlub like the rest of us. It definitely ties into the boner that America has for the troops too.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
I think we are focusing on these high profile murders when we should take a step back. The killings ARE a small number but what is the number of times someone gets stopped for DWB? That's not something that can be quantified but I think if you took a straw poll among the lodge it would be pretty high. That's where the real frustration happens with police. A black person has a much higher chance of getting harassed by police then a white person does. I'd like to think that it is getting better but who the hell knows...

In Oak Forest and the surrounding areas, I'd say 90% of people I see pulled over are dark skinned


Do you yell at the police as you observe all those stops?


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Even tho most days I cannot stand Stephen A, he really ended the debate about outrage for me with those facts.

Paid patriotism.

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https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1072626512785768&id=<a href="tel:100001152876482">100001152876482</a>


Even tho most days I cannot stand Stephen A, he really ended the debate about outrage for me with those facts.

Paid patriotism.


Yep!

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Tax payers should be infuriated by that, but no one will give a shit.

I'm getting fed up, Nas! Let's go march on Washington!

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Tax payers should be infuriated by that, but no one will give a shit.

I'm getting fed up, Nas! Let's go march on Washington!


Let's do it!

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