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Is Donald Trump Racist
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Yes 45%  45%  [ 19 ]
No 31%  31%  [ 13 ]
Well Hillary sucks too 7%  7%  [ 3 ]
CUBBIES 17%  17%  [ 7 ]
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Ha!! I kept checking back to see how JORR would reply.....his partner must be asking him to do some work....

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:20 am 
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8aLtGwHqX8M

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Well, I mean the klan doesn't get behind just anybody.

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I don't suspect he has real hatred in his heart for THE BLACKS (et al), but his attitude toward the overall 'issue' is one that is almost certainly blithely ignorant.

Also ... CUBBIES!

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Well, I mean the klan doesn't get behind just anybody.


You're( :wink: ) right...

Per Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/clinton-byrd-photo-klan/

Like the photograph showing Hillary Clinton with former Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, a former Ku Klux Klan member:

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In a video uploaded to the State Department’s official YouTube page on June 28, 2010, Clinton commemorated late Sen. Byrd by saying, “Today our country has lost a true American original, my friend and mentor Robert C. Byrd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryweuBVJMEA

This photograph and video are undeniably genuine: The photograph was taken in July 2004, and the video of Clinton was filmed on 28 June 2010, shortly after Byrd's death.

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He is a racist and neofascist.

That said, it is a catastrophically stupid campaign strategy for Clinton, her surrogates, and her media supporters to attribute Trump's popularity to racism. Clinton cannot win the election simply by attacking Trump. The Clintons adopted a variation of this strategy in the 1990s and it enabled the Republicans to take control of the House. If she is going to win the presidency, she needs to persuasively present a coherent vision for the future of the country under her leadership. This will be a difficult task for her since she doesn't seem to have one that lasts longer than a week or two.

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He is a racist and neofascist.

That said, it is a catastrophically stupid campaign strategy for Clinton, her surrogates, and her media supporters to attribute Trump's popularity to racism. Clinton cannot win the election simply by attacking Trump. The Clintons adopted a variation of this strategy in the 1990s and it enabled the Republicans to take control of the House. If she is going to win the presidency, she needs to persuasively present a coherent vision for the future of the country under her leadership. This will be a difficult task for her since she doesn't seem to have one that lasts longer than a week or two.


Sources and evidence? Don't just make claims, please provide evidence and proof of this, totally open to changing my view if you have this

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Tall Midget wrote:
He is a racist and neofascist.

That said, it is a catastrophically stupid campaign strategy for Clinton, her surrogates, and her media supporters to attribute Trump's popularity to racism. Clinton cannot win the election simply by attacking Trump. The Clintons adopted a variation of this strategy in the 1990s and it enabled the Republicans to take control of the House. If she is going to win the presidency, she needs to persuasively present a coherent vision for the future of the country under her leadership. This will be a difficult task for her since she doesn't seem to have one that lasts longer than a week or two.


I actually think whichever one of them can avoid saying stupid shit will win, but they both seem incapable of doing so.

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Yes, but in his heart he holds equal disdain for blacks, asians, indians, mexicans, jews, poor people, middle class people, upper class people and so on..


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Yes, but in his heart he holds equal disdain for blacks, asians, indians, mexicans, jews, poor people, middle class people, upper class people and so on..



Basically, anyone besides Ivanka and himself.

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Jbi11s wrote:
Well, I mean the klan doesn't get behind just anybody.


You're( :wink: ) right...

Per Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/clinton-byrd-photo-klan/

Like the photograph showing Hillary Clinton with former Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, a former Ku Klux Klan member:

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In a video uploaded to the State Department’s official YouTube page on June 28, 2010, Clinton commemorated late Sen. Byrd by saying, “Today our country has lost a true American original, my friend and mentor Robert C. Byrd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryweuBVJMEA

This photograph and video are undeniably genuine: The photograph was taken in July 2004, and the video of Clinton was filmed on 28 June 2010, shortly after Byrd's death.


I didn't know this was a thread about Hillary. I must have read the title wrong.

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Can't have a Trump thread without Hillary being brought up.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-palm-beach-castle-and-his-30-year-fight-to-win-over-the-locals/2015/11/14/26c49a58-88b7-11e5-be8b-1ae2e4f50f76_story.html

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Donald Trump Fought to Include Jews and Blacks at Palm Beach Golf Course in 1990s

But Trump undercut his adversaries with a searing attack, claiming that local officials seemed to accept the established private clubs in town that had excluded Jews and blacks while imposing tough rules on his inclusive one.

Trump’s lawyer sent every member of the town council copies of two classic movies about discrimination: “A Gentleman’s Agreement,” about a journalist who pretends to be Jewish to expose anti-Semitism, and “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner” about a white couple’s reaction to their daughter bringing home a black fiance.

The move infuriated council members, who said it was a distraction from their concerns that Trump’s club would spoil a quiet street. But, in time, Trump got most of the restrictions lifted.

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I didn't know this was a thread about Hillary. I must have read the title wrong.


You're comment asked for it...

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Jbi11s wrote:

I didn't know this was a thread about Hillary. I must have read the title wrong.


You're comment asked for it...

My comment wasn't a question.

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Yes, but in his heart he holds equal disdain for blacks, asians, indians, mexicans, jews, poor people, middle class people, upper class people and so on..



Basically, anyone besides Ivanka and himself.


Probably a stretch to include Ivanka even.


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He's the least racist person I know.

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Jbi11s wrote:
cluv8484 wrote:
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I didn't know this was a thread about Hillary. I must have read the title wrong.


You're comment asked for it...

My comment wasn't a question.


You claimed the klan has connections to Donald trump. Skewed. Showed a true connection here...

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So far ltg is right.

CFMB won't give a simple YES.

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cluv8484 wrote:
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I didn't know this was a thread about Hillary. I must have read the title wrong.


You're comment asked for it...

My comment wasn't a question.


You claimed the klan has connections to Donald trump. Skewed. Showed a true connection here...

I didn't say anything about connections. I think you are misinterpreting my original comment.

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Trump hates everyone that isn't a 1%er. He tolerates the Jews because they help him cheat on his taxes...

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He tolerates the Jews because they help him cheat on his taxes...


Isn't this true of all of us, really?

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Trump hates everyone that isn't a 1%er. He tolerates the Jews because they help him cheat on his taxes...

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This thought is not to defend Trump but truly to get an answer. For as long as I can remember presidential elections have been pretty similar in the ways the two parties go at each other. So when was the last election you recall when the Republican candidate and the party in general were not made out to be racist? I am guessing HW Bush but not sure and I don't really remember the Reagan elections.

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Trump hates everyone that isn't a 1%er.


This. He is okay with anyone as long as their money is green.

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This thought is not to defend Trump but truly to get an answer. For as long as I can remember presidential elections have been pretty similar in the ways the two parties go at each other. So when was the last election you recall when the Republican candidate and the party in general were not made out to be racist? I am guessing HW Bush but not sure and I don't really remember the Reagan elections.


Maybe '92 or '96?

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He is a racist and neofascist.

That said, it is a catastrophically stupid campaign strategy for Clinton, her surrogates, and her media supporters to attribute Trump's popularity to racism. Clinton cannot win the election simply by attacking Trump. The Clintons adopted a variation of this strategy in the 1990s and it enabled the Republicans to take control of the House. If she is going to win the presidency, she needs to persuasively present a coherent vision for the future of the country under her leadership. This will be a difficult task for her since she doesn't seem to have one that lasts longer than a week or two.


Sources and evidence? Don't just make claims, please provide evidence and proof of this, totally open to changing my view if you have this


There's been plenty written about his housing discrimination policies, the covert and overt racism of his birtherism, his obvious and subtle flirtations with white supremacists, and his installation of a leading "alt right" figure as campaign CEO. If Trump isn't a racist as those who describe him as a pragmatic businessman claim, we must remember that he still behaves as if he were a racist. In other words, the above defense makes a distinction between Trump as an earnest racist and Trump as a Machiavellian political operator without identifying a tangible difference between those two descriptions.

His neofascism is slightly more complicated, but we can certainly recognize the emergence of such a discourse in his disdain for a free press and his willingness to lower the standard for libel judgments, his veneration of autocratic rulers such as Putin (and, apparently, Mussolini himself), his incitement of violence at his political rallies, his understanding of "political correctness" as a cause of national decline, his scapegoating of/attacks on Muslim and Mexican immigrants, and his development of a campaign platform designed to amplify cultural polarization and consolidate white people of varying social classes and ethnic lineages into a single voting bloc.

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