Long time clown first time superpredator

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She has Parkinson's, the signs are there.

You can't make this shit up.



LTG defends someone that by his own definition is a rat bastard, and then tries to claim that others use false equivalencies to defend a candidate they don't support.

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Your spin is reaching Fox Newsian levels. Where do you see a defense of Trump?

So that picture means Obama was born in Kenya? Weren't you also one of the people gleefully reporting that the birther movement started with Hillary? I think you were

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That pic came from Hilary's campaign in 2008.

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The media is in overdrive trying to separate Hillary from Sid Blumenthal on this one. They're calling this a lie on the level of the moon landing being fake. I don't think I've seen them circle wagons like this for her before, and that's saying something.

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The birther movement started with Donald Trump. How soon we forget this in an effort to pin everything on Hillary Clinton. This one you can't and it demonstrates too much bias frankly. Can you find anything even close to this.

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/9/16/1 ... dent-Obama


I defy you to find anything where Hillary Clinton is calling for a birth certificate or questioning whether Obama was born here

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The birther movement absolutely did not start with Donald Trump.

It started with Andy Martin in 2004.

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Seacrest, is your picture supposed to show that Obama was born in Kenya?

Edit: you claim it came from Hillary's camp.

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I don't see any other explanation for that picture.

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Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

I think it was a picture that Clinton supporters released in 2008. Then when the Obama campaign denounced it, the Clinton campaign asked why the Obama camp was ashamed of it.

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Whoever that is. There is no denying that Trump was the leader of the movement. He is the guy that lied about having proof. He is the guy that talked about having a 100 detectives working on it. He is the guy who took "credit" for forcing Obama to produce the dam thing. It was his movement. Now that he looks foolish he is trying to distance himself from it. No way Jose. His cache into Republican politics was created by his leadership of the movement.

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He wasn't a leader of it either.

He came to it after Obama was already President.

And when he did, he was seen as a dope trying to get some publicity for a dead issue.

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Yup. Clinton never tried to stop it either. Oh the irony.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

That's not true. She apologized to him for what someone in her campaign had sent in an email.

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He didn't start it but he definitely became the leader in 2010. He was still pushing it up until yesterday. He became an ally of the alt right by continuing to question the legitimacy of the first black president and questioning his academic background.

It's absolutely ridiculous that anyone would try to equate an email that was sent by a Hillary staffer with what Trump did for 6 years. It's equally as ridiculous to claim Hillary started the Birther movement.

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ltg and nas spinning in circles.

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She was more subtle than that. What do you think the point of that picture was?

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Freedom is our Strength.

Why say she? Did Hillary send an email? Did Hillary say she doesn't think Obama was born in America? Did she say he was an Affirmative Action student? Did she demand his birth certificate and college transcripts? Did she question if his birth certificate was authentic? Did she claim to have some investigators that had found some unbelievable things? Did she claim that he was responsible for the death of someone who signed Obama's birth certificate? Did she dismiss anyone who claimed that Obama's birth certificate was real? Was she proud of the fact that our first black president was shamed into proving he was American? Did it take her 6 years and some political pressure to disingenuously say that our president of the past 7 years is an American? Give me a fucking break with all of this Hillary is the same as Trump crap.

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Who has ever said "Hillary is the same as Trump"? But the truth is, their presidencies will likely be very similar.

Anyway, you're kidding yourself if you really believe that Hillary Clinton isn't fully in control of everything her campaigns do. She allowed her campaign to raise all kinds of questions about Obama. Sure, she gets up there and yells at people how terrible it is. Do you really think there's anything sincere about Clinton? I know you're smarter than that. Her campaign ops weren't putting out that picture without her full backing. And then she acts like Sylvester the Cat when he has Tweety Bird in his mouth. She's as phony as they come. She hate Obama with a passion. And he hates her fucking guts. I wouldn't be surprised if both Obamas secretly voted for Trump, or at least Gary Johnson.

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#Truth

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She was NOT questioning if he was American. Even the email that was sent wasn't questioning if he was American. Even if you believe that #IncompetentHillary is in control of everything staffers are doing (despite not being able to stop her husband from sabotaging her campaign) at no point was his place of birth questioned. What Hillary and MANY others did was play on the fear of him being a Muslim.

I don't personally like Hillary. I have seriously said that MANY times the past 12 years. I respect the hell out of her for playing the game the way she has. Despite my personal feelings there is absolutely nothing that tells me President Trump and President Hillary Clinton will be similar.

There is no doubt the Clinton's and the Obama's hate one another. I'm confident that the Obama's hate Trump more.

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#Truth

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So Trump is a racist for Muslim comments, but Hillary is not for playing to the same fear? It all ends up in what others classify as racism. It just doesn't apply to Hillary.

This is not a game.

They all hate far more than each other.

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There you go again trying to equate what Trump did to Hillary. I never called Trump a racist for the Muslim stuff. Even then Trump's Muslim ban and other things was completely different than Hillary's and MANY others repeatedly saying "I take Obama at his word that he's a Christian."

Politics is a sport. To be able to play it at a high level takes some skill.

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I'm pointing out what others try and deny.

It's the same behavior from both of them. PERIOD.

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It's not. Saying so is essentially a defense of Trump and smearing Hillary. Hell it's what he said despite it being factually incorrect.

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I think in a moment of rare honesty around here, you and ltg made it clear yesterday with the LBJ comments, that you are willing to accept racism to some extent.

If Trump had stayed a Democrat, I have no doubt he would be receiving the votes of many that now denounce him.

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