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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:49 am 
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As an ND fan, I've never thought they looked like a top 4 team this year. Iowa has also never looked like a top 4 team this year.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:49 am 
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Man, you guys are touchy.

It wasnt a smarmy question. Im saying is it a toss up or is it something where you'd be shocked if ND was favored?

That's all.
Huh? I answered your question. That's it.

Iowa is the better team. So is Michigan State. OSU would be but they seem more interested in draft stock than a repeat title.

Well you said "of course" like it was a ridiculous question.

Interesting. So Notre Dame would be the 4th best team in the Big 10?


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Man, you guys are touchy.

It wasnt a smarmy question. Im saying is it a toss up or is it something where you'd be shocked if ND was favored?

That's all.
Huh? I answered your question. That's it.

Iowa is the better team. So is Michigan State. OSU would be but they seem more interested in draft stock than a repeat title.

Well you said "of course" like it was a ridiculous question.

Interesting. So Notre Dame would be the 4th best team in the Big 10?



Maybe fifth.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:55 am 
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Even if they were the 5th best, they'd probably win the league. They find ways to win apparently.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Well you said "of course" like it was a ridiculous question.
It was a ridiculous question because it is an opinion. The only way we'd know for certain if they would be favored is if they were playing.
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Interesting. So Notre Dame would be the 4th best team in the Big 10?
I'd put them ahead of OSU now. They have issues outside the football field. Obviously, a motivated and focused OSU is better than ND though. They returned a good portion of the title team.

So, 3rd best team.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 11:00 am 
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Well you said "of course" like it was a ridiculous question.
It was a ridiculous question because it is an opinion.

Not ridiculous because I dont follow it. I was essentially asking if it was close or like a touchdown or more.

If its a spread of 1 or 2 its your opinion. If its 7 or 8 then its consensus.


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Neutral site ND is a 6-7 point favorite over Iowa, and they would cover it. I've can't remember seeing so many pretenders in College football.

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My man 312 comin thru


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Neutral site ND is a 6-7 point favorite over Iowa, and they would cover it. I've can't remember seeing so many pretenders in College football.
Isn't Notre Dame projected to be an underdog to Stanford?

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Neutral site ND is a 6-7 point favorite over Iowa, and they would cover it. I've can't remember seeing so many pretenders in College football.
Isn't Notre Dame projected to be an underdog to Stanford?


When Stanford has an actual gameplan in place AND decide to wake the hell up they should kill ND

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Neutral site ND is a 6-7 point favorite over Iowa, and they would cover it. I've can't remember seeing so many pretenders in College football.
Isn't Notre Dame projected to be an underdog to Stanford?




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312player wrote:
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Neutral site ND is a 6-7 point favorite over Iowa, and they would cover it. I've can't remember seeing so many pretenders in College football.
Isn't Notre Dame projected to be an underdog to Stanford?




No
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:05 pm 
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The favorite is 8-2 straight up over the last 10 meetings between Notre Dame and Stanford, but the underdog is 7-3 against the spread during that span, as the teams have played a bunch of close games over recent seasons. The Irish will go off as the underdog for Saturday night's clash with the Cardinal out on the Farm.



Point spread: The Fighting Irish opened as two-point favorites, according to sportsbooks monitored by Odds Shark (line updates and matchup report).

College football pick, via Odds Shark computer: 36.8-33.7 Cardinal



Why the Notre Dame Fighting Irish can cover the spread

Notre Dame extended its winning streak to six games with a 19-16 victory over Boston College Saturday night at Fenway Park. The Irish, as two-touchdown favorites, built a 19-3 fourth-quarter lead before allowing the Eagles to score twice, the second time with under a minute to go, to cough up the cash.

On the night Notre Dame outgained Boston College 452-302, and 80 of the Eagles' yards came on one play. The Irish might have really blown Boston College out, but they committed five turnovers, three inside the Eagles' red zone. Notre Dame has now outgained nine of 11 opponents this season, seven of those by at least 120 yards.



Why the Stanford Cardinal can cover the spread

Stanford just clinched its third berth in the Pac-12 Championship Game in the last four seasons with a 35-22 victory in the Big Game over Cal last week, covering 10 points. The Cardinal took a 21-6 lead into halftime, with help from a 98-yard kickoff return for a score by Christian McCaffrey, let the Bears get within 21-16, then put the game and the cash away with a pair of fourth-quarter touchdowns.

For the game, Stanford ran the ball for 260 yards, as McCaffrey went off for 192, and he also scored on a pass reception. The Cardinal are now 9-0 SU and 8-1 ATS when they've outrushed opponents this season.

Stanford may have two losses, but it still harbors hopes of making the College Football Playoff. It would take an impressive victory over the Irish, and help from elsewhere, but hey, there's still hope.



Smart pick

Stanford has McCaffrey, while Notre Dame will probably play without leading rusher CJ Prosise. Also, the Cardinal are 5-1 ATS at home this season, while the Irish are 2-3 ATS outside of South Bend. Finally, Notre Dame just played in Boston last week and now heads out to the Left Coast for this one. The smart money here sides with Stanford.



Betting trends

Notre Dame is 7-2 ATS in its last nine games on the road against Stanford.

Stanford is 9-1 SU and 8-2 ATS in its last 10 games.

Notre Dame is 6-0 SU in its last six games against the Pac-12.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:07 pm 
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Sorry 312player. You lose.

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ND is favored by 2.


I'm playing them and Indiana.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:11 pm 
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Interesting. That's quite a swing. Rick's site gives ND 3.5 and Odds shark has them giving 2


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:13 pm 
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312player wrote:
ND is favored by 2.


I'm playing them and Indiana.
ND is projected to be an underdog, like I said.

I'm sorry if you got ND - 2. :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:14 pm 
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
312player wrote:
ND is favored by 2.


I'm playing them and Indiana.
ND is projected to be an underdog, like I said.

I'm sorry if you got ND - 2. :lol:

http://www.oddsshark.com/ncaaf/odds

ND -2 here

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College football odds 2015, Week 13: Baylor, Notre Dame among betting favorites
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:16 pm 
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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ND is favored by 2.


I'm playing them and Indiana.
ND is projected to be an underdog, like I said.

I'm sorry if you got ND - 2. :lol:

http://www.oddsshark.com/ncaaf/odds

ND -2 here
Notre Dame is not currently -2 anywhere though. The only place that seems open has ND +3.5.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:16 pm 
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I feel like they're gonna lose. Fucking BC gave em all they could handle


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:20 pm 
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Everything I am seeing has Stanford favored by the 3.5.

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my place is open at 3.5

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 1:06 pm 
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rogers park bryan wrote:
I feel like they're gonna lose. Fucking BC gave em all they could handle


They did and they didn't. That score is deceptive. BC is a rugged defense and ND didn't seem to be terribly troubled moving the ball.

Take the over in ND Stanford

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312player wrote:
ND is favored by 2.
Ouch. 312player with the big loss.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:34 am 
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Great game.


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Great game.

Bad ending.
Still a national power.

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Great game.
Agreed.

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new year, same shit.

pretenders.


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Good for MSU. I am so tired of ND.

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Good for MSU. I am so tired of ND.

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