48 hours, and still no answers.

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I don't love trump. But I do not share beliefs with the liberal progressives. Thus I push against the Hillary vote. Plus I find trump entertaining to a degree.

Dumb reasons I like Trump: He is not a politician, he funded much of his campaign, he is not politically correct and I appreciate that in our soft gloves world, his kids all appear to have turned out very well which I find an indicator of him as a man.

Possibly dumb reasons I like Trump:

-Taxes - Personally, I don't want to pay more money in federal taxes. Simple.

-Globalism - I am not about the globalist agenda. We need good relationships with countries, not to become 1 country. Obama is very globalist and Hillary will continue this. Obama has dictated American's to be tolerant to others. That is fine, don't say we have to be tolerant of people who are intolerant of Americans way of life. Sharia law goes against the american way of life. Don't force tolerance of these beliefs in America, yet shut down the baker who is Christian and chooses not to bake a cake for a gay couple. That's Hippocratic.

I.E. lawsuit was won by 2 muslim men in this state because as truck drivers they refused to deliver alcohol. Their job was to deliver items on their truck. They were fired, they sued, and they won. Why? They knew the job included the delivery of alcohol and they still took it. If that was a problem they shouldn't have taken the position. Common Sense.

http://www.snopes.com/obama-muslim-truck-drivers-lawsuit/

Refugees - The need to bring refugees into this country in the 100,000s makes no sense to me. 1.) Who is paying for these unfortunately poor people to live and exist here? 2.) ISIS has claimed and the state dept. acknowleged terrorists will be hidden in the refugees coming here. It has not worked in Europe, at all, thus why it's called a migrant crisis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfmywzjdtRM

Illegal Immigrants - Paying for prison care or welfare of illegal immigrants is beyond me. People apply for citizenship, bless them and hope they get approved.

Center for Immagration studies showed 62% of illegal households utilized welfare.

http://cis.org/Welfare-Use-Legal-Illegal-Immigrant-Households

- Economics - Capitalism is a beautiful thing. If you have a skill/ability/trade you can be successful. Socialism has NEVER worked. Hillary isn't Bernie but the way it has slid the last 8 years, if she gets in who knows how much worse it can get. America has to do something to curtail the fleeing operations and to get businesses thriving back in this country that can provide jobs to the working class. The trade situation needs revision. I think Trump does have intelligence in economics. We know him as the boastrous non diplomatic actor. But I think he is a smart man, if you watch him speak when he was younger he came across far differently.

- America - Trump genuinely seems concerned about improving this countries well being. He has said so for the last 30 years. The war situation needs revision. Trump hints he will stay out of the middle east much more than we have. I can only hope he is truthful. How can I believe Hillary has the same beliefs when she is bankrolled by Saudis and Soros. Take care of home before we worry about the rest of the world. Do you genuinely see Hillary sitting down and garnering the respect of world leaders? I believe behind closed doors Trump will be able to represent America with strength.

Those are my reasons, maybe you think i'm a fool, maybe you agree. I just don't believe Hillary or the left are genuine and want the best for this country. I don't believe Hillary can lead this country. I think trump may have done some shady business, but I think in public office Hillary has done far worse things.

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Michael: "Could it be love?"
GOB: "I know what an erection feels like, Michael. No, it's the opposite. It's... it's like my heart is getting hard."

Hilary and "the left" are anti-American, but Trump is some sort of patriot?

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

You mentioned Hillary eight times, and he is not funding his own campaign.

You sure hit all of the buzz words. Socialism, gay cake, Sharia Law, Soros, welfare, etc.

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Only have choice A or B here man. It will be one of them. I am against Hilary as much as I am for Trump.

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GOB: "My God, what is this feeling?"
Michael: "Could it be love?"
GOB: "I know what an erection feels like, Michael. No, it's the opposite. It's... it's like my heart is getting hard."

"my father was a small business...I mean small businessman"...

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Why the nitpick of number of usages? When your buddy LTG was in a HRC thread and he mention Trump like 100-1 over HRC and you did not bring it up,fucking hypocrate

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

These are things that Obama and Hillary view differently than myself. Trump leans towards my beliefs on these items. Thus my vote.

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GOB: "My God, what is this feeling?"
Michael: "Could it be love?"
GOB: "I know what an erection feels like, Michael. No, it's the opposite. It's... it's like my heart is getting hard."

TM asked cluv specifically what he liked about Trump, and I asked him to answer it without referencing Hillary, Obama, or any other libtard. Predictably, he could not.




Well, I don't read every post in every thread, so I have no idea what you are referencing, or how I am involved in that.




I'm going to consider this another violation of the terms of our peace treaty. This is your last Get out of Jail Free card.

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Trump has changed his mind on every issue, sometimes in the middle of a sentence. He hasn't had any clear solutions to fix the problems you named. "Believe me, we are going to do great things" isn't an actual policy.

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Man no one around here can take a joke after Bigfan left.Where is the laughter

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That wasn't a joke, and you know it. Like I said, we can go forward one of two ways. You choose.




I don't think that most people laugh when called a "fucking hypocrite", for not speaking up in a discussion in which they were not involved. Leave the jokes to the professionals.

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Not to violate but the guy in there now ran on "change" it was like a mantra. Change with not much to back it up.
The only real change I can see is a lot of dead women and children from drones .
As to the LTG thread you where participating in the thread, so now what you are pulling a HRC? I don't remember the conversation about the server.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Genuinely didn't see this portion of it, just your 48 hour comment. Would have been up for the challenge...

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GOB: "My God, what is this feeling?"
Michael: "Could it be love?"
GOB: "I know what an erection feels like, Michael. No, it's the opposite. It's... it's like my heart is getting hard."

What does Obama have to do with why cluv likes Trump's policies?





Chas, I have no idea what you are talking about. I didn't ask LTG to not mention Trump. This is your axe to grind, bruh, not mine.

You were definitely joking.

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I have no idea what the hell this dude is referencing. Something tells me in about 15 minutes neither will he.

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/22/trump-ohio-campaign-chair-no-racism-before-obama?CMP=twt_gu

Donald Trump’s campaign chair in a prominent Ohio county has claimed there was “no racism” during the 1960s and said black people who have not succeeded over the past half-century only have themselves to blame.

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“If you’re black and you haven’t been successful in the last 50 years, it’s your own fault. You’ve had every opportunity, it was given to you,” she said.

“You’ve had the same schools everybody else went to. You had benefits to go to college that white kids didn’t have. You had all the advantages and didn’t take advantage of it. It’s not our fault, certainly.”

Miller also called the Black Lives Matter movement “a stupid waste of time” and said lower voter turnout among African Americans could be related to “the way they’re raised”.

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Miller added: “I don’t think there was any racism until Obama got elected. We never had problems like this ... Now, with the people with the guns, and shooting up neighborhoods, and not being responsible citizens, that’s a big change, and I think that’s the philosophy that Obama has perpetuated on America.” ...

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
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Too dumb to live.

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Sigh...just go back to your white picket fence rural road Ms. Miller. Nothing for you to see here.

How is this woman even allowed to speak, what an idiot...

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GOB: "My God, what is this feeling?"
Michael: "Could it be love?"
GOB: "I know what an erection feels like, Michael. No, it's the opposite. It's... it's like my heart is getting hard."

It looks like I am owed an apology from the poster who said that "I am what's wrong with liberals" for suggesting that there is a tone of white nationalism and bigotry from the Trump campaign.

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MANY people feel this way.

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GO BEARS!!!

Last I checked, everyone was pretty much allowed to speak their (ostensible) mind.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

So does MAN-E-FACES.

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Well, to your point:

In 1963, 62% of all white people in America said that black people were treated equally. In 1967 it was up to 75%.

Since 1962, it's held almost steady that 8 in 10 white Americans think that black children have equal chances for good education in their own communities.

In 1964 most white Americans believed that mass demonstrations for racial equality were actually hurtful to black Americans' cause.

In 1966 that number had risen to 85%.

http://www.crmvet.org/docs/60s_crm_public-opinion.pdf
http://media.gallup.com/GPTB/specialReports/sr010711.PDF

Recent polls clearly indicate that people actually 'think' that bias against whites is more of a problem than the bias against blacks.

Here's something from PewResearch from the end of June about how divided people really are ... take particular notice that literally 50% of the whites said blacks are treated more fairly than whites by the police. Only half were aware of how extraordinarily ridiculous this belief is ... ridiculous up to and perhaps beyond the point of being offensively ignorant ... 'ignorant' being the best possible reason why people would 'think' the way the do.

And another 57% of them also say blacks are treated fairly in courts... And 32% of the whites also believe obama made race relations worse.

TL;DR- Why was that woman allowed to speak? Because what that Trump campaign chair said is, in fact, a significantly acceptable opinion among the white population and thus, inarguably, accurately representative of same.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Not true. That bike doesn't have a motor.

Big Chicagoan with the funny.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

or this guy

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

This is why Trump says what he does. I told JORR he wasn't talking to me.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!