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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:44 pm 
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Don Tiny wrote:
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This is re: Christianity's definition of forgiveness mind you. Christ forgives those who repent.


Incorrect.

Forgiveness is offered freely to all, full stop.

Whether a given person takes Him up on the offer or not is a different matter. The point is it's already there regardless of any sort of acceptance of it by anyone. Your suggestion indicates that someone has to do something not only for it to exist, but also to earn it, which, honestly, profanes the Gospel.


I gotta say, Don, we will never be kindred spirits on the religious front, but I respect your thoughts because you aren't a blowhard asshole about it.

You're a blowhard asshole about everything else, but not this.

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hnd wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
hnd wrote:
This is re: Christianity's definition of forgiveness mind you. Christ forgives those who repent.


Incorrect.

Forgiveness is offered freely to all, full stop.

Whether a given person takes Him up on the offer or not is a different matter. The point is it's already there regardless of any sort of acceptance of it by anyone. Your suggestion indicates that someone has to do something not only for it to exist, but also to earn it, which, honestly, profanes the Gospel.


i prefaced that whole thing with, "one could argue". Jesus only forgives the criminal who recognized that he needed it. Its offered freely but isn't full circle until accepted or requested.


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So it has to be asked for? I'm right.
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Spaulding wrote:
So it has to be asked for? I'm right.

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Spaulding wrote:
So it has to be asked for? I'm right.

I've forgiven people who I'm 99.99% sure don't regret their actions.

For me, its more selfish. I don't want to dwell on negatives. So I move on, its a sort of forgiveness
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now that she has her answer, Spaulding's walking around all day like:

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