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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:35 pm 
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And what am I lying about?

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Therefore, my daughter's existence is an affront to God's will.



That's a lie. And a pretty weak attempt at being victim as well.


Question asked. Question answered. If you find some ambiguity in that, I can't make it any simpler.

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IVF is an affront to God's will.


Of course that's what he thinks. Therefore, my daughter's existence is an affront to God's will.


Well, you are worse than Satan, so you can see how he could jump to conclusions about your spawn.

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Seriously we can all poke fun at Seacrest but there isn't a doubt in my mind that he would never say something untoward about another board member's family.

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So you think we should outlaw IVF?


Yes.
Is there a reason it should exist I'm unaware of?


You know exactly why it exists. But, by all means, continue to type like an arrogant, ignorant prick.

+1 Perfect description. That's Seacrest in a nutshell. The subsequent vague, confusing retorts and refusal to answer direct questions only reinforce that. Well done leash.

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Sometimes the thing that creates something isn't necessarily the thing that improves or perfects it.

God = Ford in this scenario.

Thanks for your efforts God. We'll take it from here.

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Seriously we can all poke fun at Seacrest but there isn't a doubt in my mind that he would never say something untoward about another board member's family.


I agree... directly. The problem is that some of his strongly held religious beliefs are offensive to those who don't hold them. And he's more than willing to share them as though they're gospel.

I try to get along with Seacrest, but some of his thoughts that he's more than willing to share - in a completely condescending way - make it impossible for me. It's fine - I'll just try to avoid him.

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leashyourkids wrote:
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Seriously we can all poke fun at Seacrest but there isn't a doubt in my mind that he would never say something untoward about another board member's family.


I agree... directly. The problem is that some of his strongly held religious beliefs are offensive to those who don't hold them. And he's more than willing to share them as though they're gospel.

I try to get along with Seacrest, but some of his thoughts that he's more than willing to share - in a completely condescending way - make it impossible for me. It's fine - I'll just try to avoid him.


It's just how he feels.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
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Seriously we can all poke fun at Seacrest but there isn't a doubt in my mind that he would never say something untoward about another board member's family.


I agree... directly. The problem is that some of his strongly held religious beliefs are offensive to those who don't hold them. And he's more than willing to share them as though they're gospel.

I try to get along with Seacrest, but some of his thoughts that he's more than willing to share - in a completely condescending way - make it impossible for me. It's fine - I'll just try to avoid him.


It's just how he feels.


I was not condescending to you all. You started with the insults and condescension. Name calling repeatedly.

I disagree with you. Some religions and I agree on this. But I would disagree none the less for the reasons I stated.

I share my opinions here like many others. And I'm OK with most of the personal attacks from those who disagree.

But let's re-read the the thread and cut the happy horseshit about who was condescending here.

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Your initial post was condescending. Short, dismissive, and without explanation.

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So you think we should outlaw IVF?


Yes.
Is there a reason it should exist I'm unaware of?


This post is condescending as fuck. If you disagree, then I would have to agree with FF that maybe you have communication issues.

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Jbi11s wrote:
Your initial post was condescending. Short, dismissive, and without explanation.


Your initial post was short, presumptive and dismissive without explanation.

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leashyourkids wrote:
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So you think we should outlaw IVF?


Yes.
Is there a reason it should exist I'm unaware of?


This post is condescending as fuck. If you disagree, then I would have to agree with FF that maybe you have communication issues.



No, it's not condescending as fuck anymore than no matter what I post you believe that it's only because I'm a practicing Catholic.

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Your initial post was condescending. Short, dismissive, and without explanation.


Your initial post was short, presumptive and dismissive without explanation.

How was it dismissive? I was being positive about the results of the story. I'm gonna have to do the Hank Scorpio thing and post a :lol: to your response.

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Great stuff


It's short for sure.

It's your opinion spoken as gospel.

And it didn't take into account the fact that others may disagree.

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It's short, yes. Not presumptive. Not dismissive.

A person went from a quad to a paraplegic. That's great stuff.

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I believe Jesus would be all for this type of research.

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Jbi11s wrote:
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Your initial post was condescending. Short, dismissive, and without explanation.


Your initial post was short, presumptive and dismissive without explanation.

How was it dismissive? I was being positive about the results of the story. I'm gonna have to do the Hank Scorpio thing and post a :lol: to your response.


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:lol: :lol:

Your initial post sounds like something only a rotund, red headed and redundant sports anchor could love.

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Seacrest wrote:
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And what am I lying about?

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Therefore, my daughter's existence is an affront to God's will.



That's a lie. And a pretty weak attempt at being victim as well.


Question asked. Question answered. If you find some ambiguity in that, I can't make it any simpler.


I should get better at letting things go...

Do you really think there's no ambiguity in this? If you were saying that the statement you quoted was literally a lie, you'd be implying that I said my daughter was an affront to God. But I didn't. I said it's what you were saying.

Let me help you... a better way to word it would be for you to say (from your perspective) "that's a lie that I said that."

THAT is what would actually make sense.

So, to answer your question, yes there's a ton of ambiguity in what you said. In fact, it doesn't make a lot of sense.

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Short of re-posting your question with the original response, i'm not sure how I could have been clearer.

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I just told you how.

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Seacrest wrote:
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Your initial post was condescending. Short, dismissive, and without explanation.


Your initial post was short, presumptive and dismissive without explanation.

How was it dismissive? I was being positive about the results of the story. I'm gonna have to do the Hank Scorpio thing and post a :lol: to your response.


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:lol: :lol:

Your initial post sounds like something only a rotund, red headed and redundant sports anchor could love.

Honestly, I know you aren't talking over my head, but I can't latch onto the argument when the goal posts are moving in such a scatter brained trajectory.

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Well, at least I've no longer said the worst thing about leash's family...

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I don't really understand the reasons someone would be against IVF or stem cell research.


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I don't really understand the reasons someone would be against IVF or stem cell research.


I do but I don't agree in most cases.

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Sometimes the thing that creates something isn't necessarily the thing that improves or perfects it.

God = Ford in this scenario.

Thanks for your efforts God. We'll take it from here.

Then GM was born because pushing your Ford became a challenge.


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Spent a couple minutes trying to think of a Quadrophenia parody thread and failed. You're welcome, board.

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Advancements in these fields are going to happen...fast and furious I hope.

The great religions of the world will have to adjust or they will be left behind.

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Advancements in these fields are going to happen...fast and furious I hope.

The great religions of the world will have to adjust or they will be left behind.
Yup. If God hates it that much he has options to stop it.

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Advancements in these fields are going to happen...fast and furious I hope.

The great religions of the world will have to adjust or they will be left behind.
Yup. If God hates it that much he has options to stop it.

Like making FF too dimwitted to make a Quadraphenia joke.

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Just so we're clear, my daughter was conceived via IVF. That's because my wife , whose life mission was to have children, had health problems that initially threatened her life. She overcame these issues but not to the point that she could conceive children naturally (at least not without severe health risks). So we paid tens of thousands of dollars to try... with no guarantee it would work... but with the peace of mind that we tried... for her.

The great news is that it worked, and we have a beautiful daughter for the wear. I love her to death.

Seacrest wouldn't disparage my daughter directly, I'm sure. But his arrogant religious beliefs do indirectly disparage my entire family. For him to whine about religious persecution is pathetic. He and his kind negatively impact our way of life through their archsic views. That is a fact.

It's easy to criticize concepts and then act like a good guy for specific examples. It's also fake. If there is a God, he's not looking down kindly on Seacrest's kind

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