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It is on WTTW now. Their theory is Trump is running for president because President Obama humiliated him.

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It is on WTTW now. Their theory is Trump is running for president because President Obama humiliated him.

Huh?

Just turned it on ... give me the 10-second version of that theory.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Vincent_Peale

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... Peale believed we live in a world that is mental more than physical and this allows our thoughts to be determinative. If this is the case, all that stands between us and our desires is properly controlling our thoughts. In one of his books he taught the importance of "a form of mental activity called imaging. It consists of vividly picturing, in your conscious mind, a desired goal or objective, and holding that image until it sinks into your unconscious mind, where it releases great, untapped energies. It works best when it is combined with a strong religious faith, backed by prayer, and the seemingly illogical technique of giving thanks for benefits before they are received. When the imaging concept is applied steadily and systematically, it solves problems, strengthens personalities, improves health, and greatly enhances the chances for success in any kind of endeavor." (Positive Imaging)

None of this would be remarkable, except that he taught it as a minister who claimed to be a Christian. Yet as a Christian minister he denied that God was a being, saying “Who is God? Some theological being? He is so much greater than theology. God is vitality. God is life. God is energy. As you breathe God in, as you visualize His energy, you will be reenergized!” (Plus: The Magazine of Positive Thinking). As a Christian minister he told Phil Donahue, “It’s not necessary to be born again. You have your way to God, I have mine. I found eternal peace in a Shinto shrine … I’ve been to Shinto shrines and God is everywhere. … Christ is one of the ways! God is everywhere.” He denied the very heart of the Christian faith and replaced it with his doctrine of positive thinking.


Yikes ... what a maroon.

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Peale's philosophy is based on exaggerating the fears of his readers and followers, and that this exaggerated fear inevitably leads to aggression and the destruction of those considered "negative." Peale's views are critically reviewed in a 1955 article by psychiatrist R. C. Murphy, published in The Nation, titled 'Think Right: Reverend Peale's Panacea.'

"With saccharine terrorism, Mr. Peale refuses to allow his followers to hear, speak or see any evil. For him real human suffering does not exist; there is no such thing as murderous rage, suicidal despair, cruelty, lust, greed, mass poverty, or illiteracy. All these things he would dismiss as trivial mental processes which will evaporate if thoughts are simply turned into more cheerful channels. This attitude is so unpleasant it bears some search for its real meaning. It is clearly not a genuine denial of evil but rather a horror of it. A person turns his eyes away from human bestiality and the suffering it evokes only if he cannot stand to look at it. By doing so he affirms the evil to be absolute, he looks away only when he feels that nothing can be done about it ... The belief in pure evil, an area of experience beyond the possibility of help or redemption, is automatically a summons to action: 'evil' means 'that which must be attacked ... ' Between races for instance, this belief leads to prejudice. In child-rearing it drives parents into trying to obliterate rather than trying to nurture one or another area of the child's emerging personality ... In international relationships it leads to war. As soon as a religious authority endorses our capacity for hatred, either by refusing to recognize unpleasantness in the style of Mr Peale or in the more classical style of setting up a nice comfortable Satan to hate, it lulls our struggles for growth to a standstill ... Thus Mr Peale's book is not only inadequate for our needs but even undertakes to drown out the fragile inner voice which is the spur to inner growth."

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DannyB wrote:
at the White House Correspondents Dinner in 2011?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4

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DannyB wrote:
at the White House Correspondents Dinner in 2011?

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Where are Biggie and Tupac?

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Yes. MANY of his "friends" believe it.

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I wonder how much, if any, mainstream traction that show ends up getting.

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I wonder how much, if any, mainstream traction that show ends up getting.


Probably none. I enjoyed it. They did a better job making Hillary look like a human than her campaign has done in 10 years.

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I wonder how much, if any, mainstream traction that show ends up getting.


Probably none. I enjoyed it. They did a better job making Hillary look like a human than her campaign has done in 10 years.

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possibly the best show on television but I wouldn't buy this theory

Trump is a megalomaniac. He will always seek forum's that provide recognition whether that is positive or negative.

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He has been talking about running since at least 1988.

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He has been talking about running since at least 1988.


True. MANY appeared to believe that Obama humiliating him pushed him to do it. I don't know if that is true but MANY people interviewed for the documentary believed it.

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Don Tiny wrote:
I wonder how much, if any, mainstream traction that show ends up getting.


Probably none. I enjoyed it. They did a better job making Hillary look like a human than her campaign has done in 10 years.


I was watching it with my son last night and when they showed a picture of her when she first got to the white house he said he thought she was very cute. The kid is a romantic. I told him to never lose those kind of nice thoughts and comments for women. Even a highly educated woman like Hillary melts for a guy who gives sincere praise.

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