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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3814137/World-chess-uproar-women-told-play-year-s-world-championships-Iran-wearing-hijabs.html

Top women chess players are threatening to boycott the world championship in Iran because they will be forced to wear hijabs.

Female Grandmasters will risk arrest if they do not cover up to compete in the strict Middle Eastern country due to host the knock-out tournament next year.

The World Chess Federation, known by its French acronym Fide, has now been accused of failing to stand up for women’s rights after telling players to accept the laws and respect ‘cultural differences’, The Telegraph reported.

US women's champion Nazi Paikidze said: ‘It is absolutely unacceptable to host one of the most important women's tournaments in a venue where, to this day, women are forced to cover up with a hijab.

‘I understand and respect cultural differences. But, failing to comply can lead to imprisonment and women's rights are being severely restricted in general. It does not feel safe for women from around the world to play here.’

She added: ‘If the situation remains unchanged, I will most certainly not participate in this event.’

The headscarves have been mandatory for women in Iran since the Islamic Revolution in 1979.

The strict regulation is enforced by the country’s ‘morality police’ and any woman found not wearing one in public faces arrest, a fine or public reprimand.

The UK government warns women travelling to Iran of the ‘strictly enforced’ dress code and says ladies must cover their heads with a scarf in public and wear trousers or long skirts.

Former Pan American champion Carla Heredia, from Ecuador, added: ‘No institution, no government, nor a Women's World Chess Championship should force women to wear or to take out a hijab.

‘This violates all what sports means. Sport should be free of discrimination by sex, religion and sexual orientation.’

American Grandmaster Susan Polgar, chairman of Fide's Commission for Women's Chess, has said the players need to respect ‘cultural differences’.

She said: ‘When I visited different places with different cultures, I like to show my respect by dressing up in their traditional style of clothing. No one asked me to do it. I just do it out of respect.

‘I personally would have no issues with wearing a head scarf (hijab) as long as it is the same to all players.

‘I cannot speak on behalf of others but from my personal conversations with various players in the past year, they had no real issues with it.’

Fide did not respond to a request for comment from the Daily Mail.

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Our female champ is named Nazi??? The Headlines write themselves.

"Nazi Won't Cover Up in Iran"
"Nazi Eliminates the Competition"
"Checkmate! Nazi Cruises to Victory over Polish Champ"

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Our female champ is named Nazi??? The Headlines write themselves.

"Nazi Won't Cover Up in Iran"
"Nazi Eliminates the Competition"
"Checkmate! Nazi Cruises to Victory over Polish Champ"

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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This Nazi lady was born in Russia!

She ain't no American!

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I did some research and she isn't even American!!! She's Russian! it's a false flag operation!!!!!!!!!!

ITS A TRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I guess it's Fide's move.

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World Champ match will be played sans hijabs November 11-30 in the Fulton Market Building in the South Street Seaport in Manhattan.

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What's with (pardon my French) shitholes getting all the world championship action lately?

Olympics = Brazil
Chess = Iran
Soccer = Qatar
Basketball = Cleveland

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Where's Sports Garfield to say that it's a choice to cover yourself and it's actually empowering?

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Where's Sports Garfield to say that it's a choice to cover yourself and it's actually empowering?

I don't typically read that thread very closely ... did she actually say/tweet that?

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She's been very defensive of the way Muslim women are made to dress, yes.

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She's been very defensive of the way Muslim women are made to dress, yes.

Uh ... doesn't that seem more or less incongruous with so-termed 'empowerment'? Am I missing something?

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She's been very defensive of the way Muslim women are made to dress, yes.

Uh ... doesn't that seem more or less incongruous with so-termed 'empowerment'? Am I missing something?


A massive ego and a twitter account.

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:lol: @ this whole thread.

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Nazi A Mere Pawn In Iran's Game

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She's been very defensive of the way Muslim women are made to dress, yes.

Uh ... doesn't that seem more or less incongruous with so-termed 'empowerment'? Am I missing something?


A massive ego and a twitter account.

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Women in Hijab Play Sports. Get Over It. http://thebea.st/2bkoQGS via @thedailybeast


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For the 2016 Olympic Games in Rio, Team USA presented the first hijab-wearing athlete. Ibtihaj Muhammad is an unapologetic Black Muslim woman and brilliant fencer who speaks candidly about the toxic American political climate while casually attempting to slay in world-class competition.

The media attention around Muhammad is important—but the obsession about her clothing choices is tiresome. Female athletes are often subject to incredulous amounts of misogyny, and in the case of Muhammad, gendered Islamophobia. Discussions from mostly male sportswriters on those issues are often lacking in nuance.

The coverage of Muslim women athletes often emphasizes their traditional roles in an exotic culture, and makes their uniforms and veils into the topic of much fascination and tokenization. According to a 2014 Women’s Media Center report, almost 90 percent of sportswriters are white, straight, able-bodied men. Therein lies much of the problem. When stories on Muhammad emphasize that she is not an oppressed and subservient woman, it just reinforces the unfortunate myth that most Muslim women are meek and oppressed.


1. "Casually attempting to slay" is just what JORR has talked about when he's called out the shitty writing of Julie, Baffoe, McClure, and their ilk: this breezy, slangy affectation that doesn't jibe with the context of the sentence. "Slay queen" has been done to death, but help explain to me what's so casual about an Olympic sport where there's a sword in your hand.

2. This issue with covering women up to play chess really lays bare that yes, it is about oppression and it's always been about oppression. There was plausible deniability with the bathing suits, because there are always sound arguments for varieties of swimwear: I know I would hate to be forced into a speedo with my giant thighs. But there's nothing about sunburn or aerodynamics or body dysmorphia with chess. This is just the insecurity of Muslim men on display.

Bougiefems like Julie love women like this because when white girls avert the male gaze by going out in public in North Face and sweatpants, they just look like slobs, but when Muslims do it by covering their bodies at the behest of men, it's a brave stance against culture-war conservatives and reddit-teen edgelords, two groups they can't align themselves with at any cost. Now that's a chess match.

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Bougiefems like Julie love women like this because when white girls avert the male gaze by going out in public in North Face and sweatpants, they just look like slobs, but when Muslims do it by covering their bodies at the behest of men, it's a brave stance against culture-war conservatives and reddit-teen edgelords, two groups they can't align themselves with at any cost. Now that's a chess match.


Bravo.

Why these SJWs can't bring themselves to take on actual oppression, I'm not sure. I suppose it's a lot easier to rail on Twitter about some relic like me using the word "chick". One thing for sure, I'm not gonna cut Julie's head off or stone her to death.

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Spiegs and her had an interesting moment a day or two ago. Spiegs tried to say among so called bad words for women broad was ok in his book. JDC was having none of it but he didn't back down.

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Spiegs and her had an interesting moment a day or two ago. Spiegs tried to say among so called bad words for women broad was ok in his book. JDC was having none of it but he didn't back down.


"Broad" is an anachronism in 2016. It even predates old guys like us. It's sort of like "groovy" or "gams". It's not really a word I would have ever used. But then I had this crazy girlfriend who loved to call other women "broads". I picked up the habit of using it. When my girlfriend did it it was kind of endearing. I'm certain I just sound old and ridiculous.

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Yeah. Spieg's take was that a woman should like it. It means she is tough, sexy, can take care of herself and so on.

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American Grandmaster Susan Polgar, chairman of Fide's Commission for Women's Chess wrote:
The players need to respect cultural differences. When I visited different places with different cultures, I like to show my respect by dressing up in their traditional style of clothing. No one asked me to do it. I just do it out of respect.


So, I suppose we can expect that when the tournament is held in a Western country Ms. Polgar will exhort the women from Islamic nations to remove their headscarves and adopt Western dress to show their respect?

Look, you can sit around on your relatively free American ass and kid yourself that this shit is "choice" or "empowerment", but the truth is that the concept of hijab does not exist outside a context of objectification, subjugation, and oppression, not to mention the sexualization of young girls.

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George Foreman because of his height was the master of the hi jab.

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George Foreman because of his height was the master of the hi jab.

:lol: :lol: Shameful.

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American Grandmaster Susan Polgar, chairman of Fide's Commission for Women's Chess wrote:
The players need to respect cultural differences. When I visited different places with different cultures, I like to show my respect by dressing up in their traditional style of clothing. No one asked me to do it. I just do it out of respect.


So, I suppose we can expect that when the tournament is held in a Western country Ms. Polgar will exhort the women from Islamic nations to remove their headscarves and adopt Western dress to show their respect?

Look, you can sit around on your relatively free American ass and kid yourself that this shit is "choice" or "empowerment", but the truth is that the concept of hijab does not exist outside a context of objectification, subjugation, and oppression, not to mention the sexualization of young girls.

I've read about twenty or so papers written by young women who claim that the hijab "frees" them.....maybe it does, but....hard for me to see that.

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FIDE is quickly approaching FIFA with its levels of bullshit. Susan Polgar is also a weirdo.

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Don Tiny wrote:
jimmypasta wrote:
George Foreman because of his height was the master of the hi jab.

:lol: :lol: Shameful.


:lol: hell, i laughed . not bad


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I've read about twenty or so papers written by young women who claim that the hijab "frees" them.....maybe it does, but....hard for me to see that.


Yeah, it's like the Youth Group girls who say "modest is hottest," except no one at Willow Creek is going to beat you to death. I hope.

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American Grandmaster Susan Polgar, chairman of Fide's Commission for Women's Chess wrote:
The players need to respect cultural differences. When I visited different places with different cultures, I like to show my respect by dressing up in their traditional style of clothing. No one asked me to do it. I just do it out of respect.


So, I suppose we can expect that when the tournament is held in a Western country Ms. Polgar will exhort the women from Islamic nations to remove their headscarves and adopt Western dress to show their respect?

Look, you can sit around on your relatively free American ass and kid yourself that this shit is "choice" or "empowerment", but the truth is that the concept of hijab does not exist outside a context of objectification, subjugation, and oppression, not to mention the sexualization of young girls.

I've read about twenty or so papers written by young women who claim that the hijab "frees" them.....maybe it does, but....hard for me to see that.


& increasingly hard to care. Every answer is wrong to one screaming person or another & sitting in Chicago, I just have no fucks left to give. I had a Muslim gf who flip-flopped on the issue, but was thankfully Western in other areas :wink: , so, if she didn't care, why should I? And with her having other morally liberal ideas, why rock THAT boat?

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