Unless I'm mistaken, Ricky Renteria becomes the first man to manage both the Cubs and White Sox in their long and storied histories respectively?

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"This is Chicago, my friend. Anything can happen."

No,Chance was too. He became ill and turned things over to Johnny Evers,who also managed the Cubs.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Oh, okay. Thanks, jimmy. You are correct, sir!

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"This is Chicago, my friend. Anything can happen."

I'll say this, Ricky is capable of sucking equally to the majority of others they would have interviewed for the job.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Sale and Eaton would never have accepted this.

Did Hahn mention Renteria can assemble his staff however he sees fit? Or is he required to inherit the gang of front office snitches as his staff?

He'll probably get to make all his own hires except Don Cooper and Daryl Boston, kind of the "any color you like as long as it's black" of personnel decisions.

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The decision to hire Ricky had to be made quickly because it was a certainty he was going to be swooped up by another team to be their manager...okay

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

That isn't unreasonable.

There were almost no complaints about his one year as a manager. I don't know of any A+ candidates that were out there. The move makes sense,

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

There are good candidates out there and there may be more. Pat Murphy, Ron Gardenhire, Guillen, LaRussa. Scioscia may even be available.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

You don't want LaRussa in 2017 and onward...he will mail it in.

I could understand Gardenhire. Mike Scioscia doesn't seem to be an impressive candidate. Those teams have always had oodles of talent but don't seem to find success outside of 2002. That was a long time ago. Guillen? That would never work with Kenny being there, and I don't believe he would be better than Ricky anyway.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Is Scioscia that good? He seems like the Jeff Fisher of MLB coaches (assuming that Dyson would have made it over the line against the Rams )

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So, Goff & Speigel are currently railing on the the Sox right now.

Goff says WLS (Flagship of White Sox Radio Network) had Limbaugh on during yesterday's Hahn/Renteria presser?!?

True?

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"This is Chicago, my friend. Anything can happen."

Pardon me if I question the process of Sox administration

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

or the Joe Maddon

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I'm not a fan of Scioscia. He does many things that defy common sense/percentages. But he is considered "good" the same way Ventura is considered "bad". This is what I'm talking about when I say it's silly to get all hung up on managers. Renteria will win if his team is good enough. For the record, the only guys who are better at handling a bullpen than Guillen are Torre and Girardi.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Believable. I know 890 wants to get out from under his fat ass ASAP, but in the meantime they might not be able to preempt him for anything but pxp or breaking hard news.

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Anytime a station doesn't want to run a boring ass sports press conference it's fine by me.

I guess that's what happens on a station that isn't sports talk but also isn't joined at the hip with its sports property like WGN was with the Cubs: there's really no reason to do that kind of expansive coverage. 780 doesn't break for stupid Bears pressers, either.

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AL managers don't have to "handle" a bullpen.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Actually they have much more difficult decisions to make than an NL manager where the decision is made for you in an obvious pinch hit situation.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

No.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Yes. Clearly and obviously. An AL manager actually has to be concerned with how much his starter has left in a close game. In the NL that decision makes itself when the pitcher's spot in the order comes up.

Also, Guillen managed in both leagues.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

And he did SO WELL for the Marlins.

In the National League, you must use more of your bullpen arms. You have to consider "do I want to use this reliever in this spot with 2 outs due to the fact that he won't be able to pitch the next inning." There are all sorts of factors that come into play because of pinch hitting and double switches. The American League is Little League Managing. You set the lineup and DO NOTHING. The pitching coach tells you when your pitcher is done / has no stuff. The manager just sits there.

Your bias will never cease to amaze.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Ridiculous. You'll have to show me where you get the idea that more relievers are used in the NL. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I can't find any evidence to support such an idea.

If the NL is so much tougher to manage in, why do AL managers beat the brains of the NL in with so much regularity?

https://hatedyankees.wordpress.com/2010 ... al-league/

REAL FUCKING NUMBERS (I know you hate them):

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bas ... -managers/

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

This is almost as dumb as your Starting Pitchers W/L.

I'd be happy to correct your misconceptions though!

The AL has an advantage versus the NL due to the DH. Many AL teams' best hitter is their DH. It is usually one of their most expensive pieces, and a centerpiece to their offense. The difference between an AL team's starting DH and an NL team's first man off the bench would be significant. The NL makes up for having no DH by usually having a deeper bench, but within an NL vs AL game, the bench does not get to shine....especially at an AL park. (A deep bench is the most useful when a player goes down for an extended time...knowing you have a Javier Baez helps tremendously.)

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

False. If you want to continue this conversation you'll have to state facts.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Team's DH stats: http://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/team/_/st ... order/true

Team's average stats: http://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/team/_/st ... order/true

Team OPS Leaders (Qualifiers):

CLE: Carlos Santana
SEA: Nelson Cruz
BOS: David Ortiz
KC: Kendrys Morales
NYY: Carlos Beltran
TEX: Carlos Beltran again
OAK Khris Davis (40% of PA as a DH)

Additionally, teams like the Astros had their second highest OPS at DH (Evan Gattis). But I won't count that...just OPS leaders.

So over 1/3 of AL teams (whether you count OAK or not) had their single highest OPS at DH. And the teams that did not had their DH "up there" near the team leader.

Consider the conversation continued.

DISCLAIMER: I know you consider adding up statistics such as hits, home runs and walks "advanced analytics" so maybe you'll discount OPS as a legit determination of how good a hitter is. Hits and walks are a newer trend...

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

So that's really Cruz, Morales, and Ortiz. Maybe Santana, although he played about 60 games at first. I wouldn't call three "MANY". But I wouldn't drive a hatchback either.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don