Don't forget that they will blame Obama.

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Well I suppose he has as much to do with this as Bush did with Katrina.

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Nobody blamed Bush for the hurricane, just his terrible response, including the joke who was the head of FEMA. But, don't let facts get in the way.

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Well, perhaps the other asswipes ... Shep won't though.

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Shep Smith is a national treasure.

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Obviously, the POTUS will have to take the fall for the failure of the bureaucracy below them and in Katrina's case the failure of the state governments, local governments and things like the Red Cross as well. Presidents really affect these things very little.

My statement was sarcastic and intended to show that even if this new disaster turns into the biggest train wreck of all time there is very little Obama can do about it. Many will blame him for not caring enough or getting there for a photo quick enough to show he cares though.

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Frank, we need an update.

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Let's not blame Bush, but sideswipe the state and local gov't of New Orleans. It sounds like you are like my FIL and mother, who to this today, blame the mayor of New Orleans for the terrible response to Katrina.

Local gov't doesn't handle disaster relief from hurricanes. That's what FEMA is for.



It didn't read as sarcasm. It read as a weak defense of Bush. Only the most partisan hack can view his response to Katrina as acceptable. Seeing as how hard you pushed the false Benghazi narrative, it's tough, for me anyway, to read posts like that as sarcasm.

Your best bet as an obvious Bush supporter, is to not bring up his incredible failures.





Then those people are idiots. Florida Governor Rick Scott said that he had spoken to President Obama several times, and Obama approved his request that MANY counties be declared as major disaster areas.

And this concludes today's episode of False Equivalency Theater.

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You have trouble then with sarcasm. Saying any POTUS has perfect control of all the wheels turning under them for a disaster like this is ridiculous. Clearly, the system was flawed at the time of Katrina and hopefully it is better now. I guess your point of the Scott and Obama talking is a sign of that. More importantly it is better that the thousands of people under them are working correctly and efficiently.

You seem to think Bush is SOLELY to blame for Katrina. So then if this becomes a complete clusterfuck on the level of Katrina I will then expect ALL of the blame to be on Obama alone.

As far as side swipe at all the other agencies involved in Katrina it wasn't my thoughts but just a quick wiki look to see how fucked up it was: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism ... ne_Katrina

"Criticism from politicians, activists, pundits, and journalists of all stripes has been directed at the local, state and federal governments.
New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin was also criticized for failing to implement his food plan and for ordering residents to a shelter of last resort without any provisions for food, water, security, or sanitary conditions. Perhaps the most important criticism of Nagin is that he delayed his emergency evacuation order until less than a day before landfall, which led to hundreds of deaths of people who (by that time) could not find any way out of the city.[2] Adding to the criticism was the broadcast of school bus parking lots full of yellow school buses which Mayor Nagin refused to be used in evacuation. When asked why the buses were not used to assist evacuations instead of holing up in the Superdome, Nagin cited the lack of insurance liability and shortage of bus drivers.[3]"

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Overcast and windy here today in St Pete.

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I illustrated pretty clearly why I didn't think it was sarcasm. Why even bring up Bush to begin with?

It's apparent that your post was a passive aggressive shot at liberals for not being fair to Bush.




I didn't say anything even close to that.



Now, you are blaming "the system" Wasn't Bush in charge of "the system"?

When Katrina hit New Orleans, bush had been on vacation in Texas for 27 days. He still didn't cut the vacation short until two days after Katrina hit. Meanwhile, Obama is out in front of this, working with FEMA and local officials.

http://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/a ... rge-w-bush



Bush himself said his response wasn't good enough, but you still defend him.

But, let's rip Obama for playing golf just minutes away from the White House.




I didn't say anything even close to that.





Are we still at the sarcasm stage?




Nothing like citing an extremely vague wikipedia entry, and presenting false equivalencies to prove a point. It sounds like you are SOLELY blaming Ray Nagin.

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So much for sticking to weather.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Is this your first day?

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It's gotten kind of stormy in here....

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This is wild.
http://www.cnn.com/videos/weather/2016/10/07/hurricane-matthew-plane-orig.cnn

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Not a good day for racing .... well, maybe speedboats.

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My father in law lives a few miles south of Daytona, and a few miles from the ocean.

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Your father in law is wet.

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I just got a text from him. He said that the worst of it has passed. They boarded up the windows, and had minimal damage to the house. A couple of pieces of wood came down, but nothing serious. The roof is intact, and the house didn't flood.

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Amen

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Good. Glad, unless you are not glad.

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We get along just fine.

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

I don't know that they're going in the right direction ....

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Latest rainfall estimates show the Carolinas will be as moist as they've been since Ric Flair's prime ...

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NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO IL
234 PM CDT THU OCT 13 2016

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KENDALL-WILL-KANKAKEE-LAKE IN-PORTER-NEWTON-JASPER-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...ROCKFORD...BELVIDERE...WOODSTOCK...
WAUKEGAN...OREGON...DIXON...DEKALB...AURORA...ELGIN...WHEATON...
OSWEGO...JOLIET...KANKAKEE...GARY...VALPARAISO...MOROCCO...
RENSSELAER
234 PM CDT THU OCT 13 2016

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN CHICAGO HAS ISSUED A FROST
ADVISORY...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 2 AM TO 9 AM CDT FRIDAY.

* TEMPERATURE...31 TO 36.

* IMPACTS...SENSITIVE OUTDOOR PLANTS AND VEGETATION MAY BE KILLED
IN THESE CONDITIONS IF LEFT UNCOVERED.

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With next Tuesday being Election Day, it would appear that Weather Underground is trying to tell us something ...

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If that wasn't enough, next Tuesday is also my wedding anniversary.

Sorry everybody, but we are so fucked.

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