Look back and see why I asked the question initially.

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Do your own research.

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My post just illustrates that organizations only have so much money to spend on the product on the field. The Cubs were wise stewards of their money when they knew the team sucked. They didn't waste much money on marginal guys during 2010-2015 so they could spend lots of money on guys from 2016-2020.

Are the Cubs going to spend lots of money the next five years? Yes. Will they likely have more money to spend the next five years because they were frugal for the prior five years? Yes.

Right or wrong not every organization has embraced this concept.

I'm not saying they were wrong to do it. I'm saying they did it and we shouldn't pretend they didn't.

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tho i gotta admit that whoever "the sports executive" is working with belichick in new england is pretty damn good and very arguably the best thing going on in pro sports right now. do us laymen even have any idea who the patriots GM is, or have we been conditioned/trained to just attribute that franchise's perpetual excellence to belichick Himself?



(yeah i know you said "north america" but i always have visions on THE WORLD! MWAHAHAHHHAAA!!!! </SuperVillianShuffle>)

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The Patriots don't have a general manager. Belichick is in charge of all the personnel decisions. Scott Pioli was sort of a GM-like consigliere to Belichick back when he was there. I don't even think they had one before Belichick, it was just Bill Parcells and Robert Kraft as de facto co-GMs forever sniping at and undermining each other.

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I wouldn't say the Cubs have a ridiculous payroll, they are within a million of San Francisco and Anaheim in the 180-182 million range..nearly a hundred million behind the Dodgers, the Dodgers n Yanks have an obscene payroll.

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Every owner with adequate cash on hand sells parts of his team.

Cubs are still in the fairly early stages of a $500 million facilities improvement investment and are paying down a reportedly highly leveraged loan. I wouldn't be so sure about their baseball spending over the next 2-3 years.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

You would think other organizations would learn to stop hiring from the Patriots after each branch of the Belicheck tree seems to shrivel up and die.

I don't think anyone here is pretending that they didn't/won't spend money. I mean Theo himself said that when the time was right they were going to spend a bunch of money. They've probably got more money to spend now because they didn't burn it on marginal FA.

"Highly leveraged loan", isn't a loan by definition highly leveraged?

Do you mean highly leveraged purchase? Not trying to be a smart ass here I just trying to clarify.

One Post has good dolphin begging for his mokra pielęgniarka.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Loans are 100% leveraged unless I'm missing something.

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There are a lot of people that won't acknowledge that the spening spree was at least and probably more important than anything else they did.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

but still, the mere act of "spending money" isn't automatic, you still have to spend on the right people..

- Heyward.

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Elections have consequences.

Of course. Thsts why I don't get why people get so upset when it is pointed out that the current Cubs team is mostly built on free agency and then a few great trades.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Yeah, signing Jason Heyward, Lester and Lacky was far more important than drafting Kris Bryant and Kyle Schwarber or trading for Rizzo, Arrieta, Hendricks and Russell. One of those things are a core the other thing is a supplement to that core. You know which is which.

Have better baseball thoughts.

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JohnKirk wrote: I dont get it...

Proving my point. Thanks!

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

You said the "spending spree" was "probably more important" than anything else they did. It's obviously not more important than the things I just listed.

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JohnKirk wrote: I dont get it...

Well Schwarber isn't playing and you ignored a few other key free agents.

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yea i guess i'm confused as to what the argument really is
(i assumed) it was that it supposedly takes more intelligence and skill to draft players and execute trades, where any ol' moron can open up the checkbook and spend. Therefore tarnishing the image of Theo

FA's

Lester
Lackey
Heyward
Dexter
Soler
Zobrist
Montero
Ross
Hammel

Non-FA

Rizzo
Baez
Russell
Bryant
Coghlan
LaStella
Contreras
Almora Jr.
Hendricks
Grimm
Rondon
Strop
Chapman
Montgomery
Wood
Arrieta
Edwards Jr.

I can't think of anything else off the top of my head

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JohnKirk wrote: I dont get it...

Because that's not The Right Way™. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N8_CRpL6wk

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

I don't care how you win 100 games. It's always impressive. My point is that a lot of Cubs fans try and portray it like they did it as a lie budget club built organically when a big spending spree is just as important as anything they did and maybe more important. A few great trades did help though too.

I'm not tarnishing anything. It's just the reality that the cubs were built with a big payroll that will get much bigger in the future.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Implying the Cubs' success is due to the payroll is a disingenuous statement, and everyone knows it.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Yeah, it's not true, but even if it was, who cares? The Sock trolling of the Cub is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

You guys have tried to poke fun at the Cubs for being bad for years, and now that they are good, they're not good in the right way?

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Intentionally obtuse.

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Not intentionally.

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