How does a woman who has served most of her working life in public service get to be worth conservatively 20 million plus?

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

She can be a piece of crap yet still be a good President. It's not about the Clintons being great either. He was a good President and I think she will be also. I didn't agree with him about everything but the country was in much better shape when he left office than it is now. It also wasn't doing that well economically when he took over.

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TNA

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That's 3 Nas. You won't fool me tho.

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Check for Obama's net worth in about 10 years. MANY people have gotten wealthy from public service. Our esteemed mayor is one of them

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That's makes it okay then!

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So Trump won another debate. He is really good at them.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Neither of them will lead the country to anything good. It's all for their own personal gain and keeping their voting blocks happy. It all results in a big pile of crap.

Completely agree. He destroyed the middle class and the poor. He's easily the 2nd worst president in my lifetime behind Reagan.

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She wrote books.

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The facts don't support your theory that he destroyed the Middle Class. Middle Class wages were up during his Presidency. There also weren't any wars either.

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Hillary voted for TARP.

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As is the case for most presidents we didn't feel the effects of his policies until he was out of office.

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Seriously, based on what?

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Nothing. She’s a typical politician that has been around for decades. She only has 8 years of elected office experience.

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Spin. Bush tax cuts/massive increase in Govt spending had much more to do with it. Clinton left the country with a surplus. Remember how the Bush tax cuts were supposed to spur job growth? Never happened. All the while he felt the need to start two wars.

There was a massive deficit when he took over and a surplus when he left

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It's why I get a laugh when Carter is described as one our "worst" POTUS' ever". Got stuck with the shitstorm Nixon left, crappy arrogant businesses who were failing in large part because they were slow to adapt to global markets, an energy crisis still lingering and an idiot populace still not sure what to do with their malaise after Vietnam and civil rights for minorities (& the biggest beneficiary, white women who were gaining/using a bigger voice).

Peace treaties in the Middle East, nuclear treaties with the Soviets, a thinking adult and reasonable policies in place at the Fed, all negated by a shitstorm in Iran largely the fault of our own (esp. the Skull & Bones types) cynically exploited with October surprises & illegal dealings at the highest level, but Carter's the bad guy. Funny.

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Carter talked to Americans like adults. They preferred Reagan's infantile ignorance. https://youtu.be/kakFDUeoJKM

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

Carter was largely ineffective as president. A lot of that has to do with his personality.

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Exactly.

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Carter's failures gave us Reagan though. After Watergate and the unelected Ford there probably shouldn't have been a Republican president for at least twenty years. We got one in four.

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No, that had to do with the "Greatest Generation" & American business getting fat, lazy and arrogant. They couldn't handle the truth and made it about him instead. Reagan was an easy out for them by promoting fear and fantasyland.

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I think American business was fat, lazy, and arrogant before Carter. Reagan being terrible doesn't make Carter better. Whatever we want to say about Reagan, he clearly had leadership qualities that Carter lacked.

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Ahahahahahahah, Big Bad Ronnie is always the boogie man to the beta burrito block.

Get some T injections, Boyz.

He made America Great Again the first time.

Uh, no. He set the stage for the income inequality that is tearing the country apart.

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It's inconceivable to me that otherwise reasonable people in this thread believe Trump won the debate. He once again acted like a fucking clown when tasked with simply looking like a normal human being for 90 minutes. I'm not going to vote for either one of these people, but anyone who is "undecided" between who is the better candidate is a fucking moron and I'd highly encourage them to never vote ever for any office in any election.

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul