There are some deviations to what she had in mind in 94 . Obama care is extremely unpopular and is not really like by Democrats. Obama ran away from it in 12 and didn't really fight hard for it in the first place.

They are seeking the displaced Republican vote and trying to stick it to Obama at the same time. I don't know if it will work but they are surmising that lukewarm Democrats will still vote for her anyway.

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Let's not rewrite history. It's the Hillary plan of 2008 and Obama never ran away from it in 2012. He strongly defended it and he still does.

Hillary isn't trying to run away from Obama. You're reading too much into another Bill Clinton gaffe. She would lose by 5%+ without Obama.

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that's a terrible calculation on their part. Everyone who hates obamacare is voting someone besides Hillary.

But props to him for telling the truth.

And yes, it's Hillary's plan and Obama hasn't run away from it. You seem more and more detached from reality.

It's someguy and long time guy. The ying and yang of fanatic.

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Obama didn't actively campaign for it in 08 nor did campaign on it in 12 either. Democratic congressman also don't tout it as some great success either. Pelosi and the Dems wrote the bill not Hillary.

You don't have a clue about politics. You are the same dude that spent months telling people to ignore Trump because he had no shot. You're the person that should be ignored frankly. Someguy is off his rocker but at least he has some knowledge of whats going on.



There are vast number of Republicans who both publically endorse Hillary yet hate Obamacare. You are a different type of joke.

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Untrue. Me.

The continued existence of Obamacare isn't the #1 threat on America.

As always, voting is about picking the lesser of two evils.

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what I meant was, Billy bashing Obamacare doesn't net Hillary a vote. Should have been more clear.

And as for LTG, I understand your feelings. Obamacare killed me too. Let's join hands.

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Obama's approval rating is at 55%. Guaranteed victory for Hillary.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/06/politics/ ... index.html

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You say that as if it's a good thing.

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It is a great thing.

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It feels like the lesser of 2 evils...

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Not to me. If Trump is a 12 on an evil scale of 1-10, Hillary is no worse than a 7. That's a significant difference.

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12 seems low...

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I'm ready for this to be over. This has been the worst election cycle that I can ever remember.

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You have a point

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Agreed

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I cannot argue Trump is a 12 on an evil scale of 1-10...I'll easily agree to that. I'm just floored that anyone thinks Hillary is not a different flavor 12.
It's all bad.

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Only if you believe that the overwhelming majority of politicians are a 12. Do you believe that Obama is a 12?

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Yes, there's plenty of evidence that suggests career politicians are at that level of evil.

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Obama has done far worse than Hillary has done but he's loved by more than half our country and Hillary is hated by more than half.

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Could you expound on that?

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Well, we know for a fact he's ordered the deaths of hundreds(possibly thousands) of innocent civilians including small children. We don't know for a fact that Hillary has ever ordered someone to be killed.

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Do you really believe Obama has ordered the killing of civilians? Sometimes civilians die in war. Not that the U.S. hasn't killed civilians, but I don't believe attempting to kill civilians has been U.S. policy since Truman dropped the bombs on Japan.

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Exactly! MANY of his policies were designed to continue the screwing of the working poor. His rhetoric clearly doesn't match his actual policies.

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Clinton is running on his record, for God's sake!

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I'm 100% sure he ordered drone strikes where he was 100% sure little children would die. You'd have to be pretty damn naive to think he just made several hundred mistakes all in the same way.

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Yeah

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That's politics. She didn't make the actual decisions.

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What could go wrong when you bomb a hospital or destabilize entire countries?

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We'll have to disagree. And I don't think we even know what the numbers are. Of course the other side claims that the evil U.S. is wantonly killing innocent women and children. We should probably look with a more critical eye. I don't doubt that individual soldiers, particularly the mercenaries in the employ of the U.S. government, have purposely targeted civilians or at the very least not paid much mind to who they were killing, but that's far different than suggesting targeting civilians is U.S. policy.

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In any case, Clinton is likely to be far more hawkish than Obama.

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