This is now available on-demand. Here's a clip of the movie. I'm having a hard time justifying spending $7 on this now, but I thought others might be interested.

that sports writer should've been brought up on charges of stalking. jesus christ. this looks really overdramatic.

$7 to watch this thing on demand? ummmmm, didn't ESPN sanction this so it could air on ESPN..... for free?

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I watched this today. I think it's fascinating how shitty things got, and the perspective of the 2 guys shooting their own film during that led to a better understanding of how baseball stupid a lot of people that were there that night were.

The Buckner stuff at the beginning was really good too.

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It's not going to be on ESPN for a few more months. I think there are a few other moives they did for Tribeca that you currently have to pay for to watch on demand.

this was replayed tonight on espn i think. i had to watch it again, because i'm a glutton for punishment.

this really brought the worst out in the city. makes you really feel bad for the guy. when he's wiping beer off his face, he is the definition of pathos.

gibney would go on to make "going clear". he's a bit smug in this doc...

Its really good. Most of these ESPN Films and 30 for 30s are. My wife had no idea about the ins and outs of what happened in the 2003 NLCS. All she knew was that the Cubs lost. She was very sad for Bartman, but really enjoyed it.

Its really sad that somebody had to go thru that. Buckner, Bartman, anyone....its really terrible just how evil humans can be sometimes. Especially in a mob.

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the footage of cubs fans is a great microcosm of how riots can start. it's almost like people can't think for themselves anymore. they just get caught up in everybody's energy.

there are shots of people that absolutely look like they would kill bartman at that moment if they could have.

I watched it again,too. There would be no "Bartman" without the irresponsibility of Fox sports. 5000 replays and pointing the poor guy out in the stands borders on "National Enquirer" sensationalism. That's what I was thinking when I saw it on TV in 2003 and nothing has changed since then. Nobody had the judgement to think "let's knock it off,we could be doing harm to this guy"?

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

I'm glad a couple of the people they interviewed come off looking like total Dbags and creeps. Like that Robert Barone looking goon who walked up and threw the beer at Bartman to "get his 2 cents worth."

"Had you ever been kicked out of a Stadium before?"
"Maybe. Once or twice."

Fuck you. In the early 2000s, YOU were the exact type of asshole that would steal Chad Krueter's hat or run on the field at a Sox game.

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Yeah,what a piece of work. Frank,have you ever been thrown out at a sporting event? I once was booed at a children's soccer match by the opposing team's parents (I was the coach) & also thrown out of a game as a coach. I was a real jerk but there was a reason for both incidents.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Yeah. When I was 16 or 17, I got kicked out of a Sox game for throwing something at Royce Clayton. It was just before the Ligue and Laz Diaz incidents, so all that happened was I was escorted out of the park. I'm not proud of it, but I was young and stupid.

I got kicked out of a little league game once. I stole 3rd base, and the fielder dropped the ball. I might have been safe even if he caught it. Anyway this total fat ass ump, who NEVER moved from behind the plate to call anything said "Show me the ball" to the fielder. So the kid picked the ball up off the ground, held it up, and I was called out. Smart move on the fielder's part, but I was livid. I was maybe 10 or 12, and yelled at the ump to "get his fat ass up the line to see the play" or something to that effect. I was given the heave ho immediately. My Mom was pissed, but my Dad and most of the other fans were laughing.

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I'm one of the few who still think Alou would've caught the ball.

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Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Maybe, maybe not.

I was comfortable then, as I am still now, with calling that guy a dope for trying to catch that ball. That doesn't mean I in any way think he's the reason the Cubs lost the game or anything criminally stupid like that ... but he's definitely a dope in my book.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Gibney likes to expose assholes. In "Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room", he liberally uses a bug eyed trader who gleefully talked about "stepping" on people or fucking them over to get ahead. If Scientologists would've been more open, he probably would have used a bunch of the still-brainwashed masses in "Going Clear" as well.

Heap some blame on Jay Mariotti, too...he was the one that put where the guy worked in the Sun Times the next day.

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