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Was Mussolini really that bad? He never lied about emails.

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Was Mussolini really that bad? He never lied about emails.


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Was Mussolini really that bad? He never lied about emails.


Good guy IRL. Bought negronis.


Any man buying those deserves to be hung by his heels

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leashyourkids wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Was Mussolini really that bad? He never lied about emails.


Good guy IRL. Bought negronis.


Any man buying those deserves to be hung by his heels


Never had one, but they're popular in Italy.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Was Mussolini really that bad? He never lied about emails.


Good guy IRL. Bought negronis.


Any man buying those deserves to be hung by his heels


Never had one, but they're popular in Italy.


So are strega & grappa, which says alot about the Italian drinking tastes outside of big reds.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Was Mussolini really that bad? He never lied about emails.


Good guy IRL. Bought negronis.


Any man buying those deserves to be hung by his heels


Never had one, but they're popular in Italy.


So are strega & grappa, which says alot about the Italian drinking tastes outside of big reds.


Italians also drink Sambuca and Anisette.

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Now this is not a defense of Trump just an observation.

Now two guys in the public eye both being accused of offenses against women. One going into dark mode and we assume he is guilty because he is not coming out fighting. Other guy is coming out against them in public and fighting and we assume he is guilty? What is a man supposed to do? Plus, the fact that several of the women seem to have ties to HRC seems a little fishy as well as the fact the guy has been around women , World winning pageant beauties for over 20 years, yet this is the first we are hearing of stuff like this?
He may be a dirtball of the 33rd degree but this seems fishy

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Now this is not a defense of Trump just an observation.

Now two guys in the public eye both being accused of offenses against women. One going into dark mode and we assume he is guilty because he is not coming out fighting. Other guy is coming out against them in public and fighting and we assume he is guilty? What is a man supposed to do? Plus, the fact that several of the women seem to have ties to HRC seems a little fishy as well as the fact the guy has been around women , World winning pageant beauties for over 20 years, yet this is the first we are hearing of stuff like this?
He may be a dirtball of the 33rd degree but this seems fishy

One guy is running for President, the other guy is not.

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Now this is not a defense of Trump just an observation.

Now two guys in the public eye both being accused of offenses against women. One going into dark mode and we assume he is guilty because he is not coming out fighting. Other guy is coming out against them in public and fighting and we assume he is guilty? What is a man supposed to do? Plus, the fact that several of the women seem to have ties to HRC seems a little fishy as well as the fact the guy has been around women , World winning pageant beauties for over 20 years, yet this is the first we are hearing of stuff like this?
He may be a dirtball of the 33rd degree but this seems fishy


These are not the first allegations. Did you feel the same way about Bill Cosby?

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Now this is not a defense of Trump just an observation.

Now two guys in the public eye both being accused of offenses against women. One going into dark mode and we assume he is guilty because he is not coming out fighting. Other guy is coming out against them in public and fighting and we assume he is guilty? What is a man supposed to do? Plus, the fact that several of the women seem to have ties to HRC seems a little fishy as well as the fact the guy has been around women , World winning pageant beauties for over 20 years, yet this is the first we are hearing of stuff like this?
He may be a dirtball of the 33rd degree but this seems fishy


These are not the first allegations. Did you feel the same way about Bill Cosby?


I feel that if they are false Cosby isn't defending himself well. Generally if someone is falsely accused they get upset and shout about how they are innocent. Ask any cop or lawyer, did you feel the same way about Bill Clinton?

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Now this is not a defense of Trump just an observation.

Now two guys in the public eye both being accused of offenses against women. One going into dark mode and we assume he is guilty because he is not coming out fighting. Other guy is coming out against them in public and fighting and we assume he is guilty? What is a man supposed to do? Plus, the fact that several of the women seem to have ties to HRC seems a little fishy as well as the fact the guy has been around women , World winning pageant beauties for over 20 years, yet this is the first we are hearing of stuff like this?
He may be a dirtball of the 33rd degree but this seems fishy


These are not the first allegations. Did you feel the same way about Bill Cosby?


I feel that if they are false Cosby isn't defending himself well. Generally if someone is falsely accused they get upset and shout about how they are innocent. Ask any cop or lawyer, did you feel the same way about Bill Clinton?



A person who didn't do something generally just say "I didn't do ______." A person who is being deceptive may say "Why would I have to do _____?" "No one loves women more than me. " "Why did it take them so long?" Being loud doesn't necessarily mean that you are being truthful. Especially when you are usually loud and usually lying.

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Now this is not a defense of Trump just an observation.

Now two guys in the public eye both being accused of offenses against women. One going into dark mode and we assume he is guilty because he is not coming out fighting. Other guy is coming out against them in public and fighting and we assume he is guilty? What is a man supposed to do? Plus, the fact that several of the women seem to have ties to HRC seems a little fishy as well as the fact the guy has been around women , World winning pageant beauties for over 20 years, yet this is the first we are hearing of stuff like this?
He may be a dirtball of the 33rd degree but this seems fishy


These are not the first allegations. Did you feel the same way about Bill Cosby?


I feel that if they are false Cosby isn't defending himself well. Generally if someone is falsely accused they get upset and shout about how they are innocent. Ask any cop or lawyer, did you feel the same way about Bill Clinton?



A person who didn't do something generally just say "I didn't do ______." A person who is being deceptive may say "Why would I have to do _____?" "No one loves women more than me. " "Why did it take them so long?" Being loud doesn't necessarily mean that you are being truthful. Especially when you are usually loud and usually lying.


Any sane person would issue a statement saying these are very serious charges and my lawyers will be making every effort to see that the truth prevails, whether he did it or not, and let his surrogate attack dogs run around the news stations and twitter. Instead, this guy spends half of his rally appearances, which take place in front of people ALREADY VOTING FOR HIM and goes into his song and dance routine. Why? the only strategy i can surmise is that he feels that if he doesn't they will see him, not as guilty/not guilty, but as weak. Again, any sane person.

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Was Mussolini really that bad? He never lied about emails.


i heard he had a nice little tour around town right after he died; not too different from ron santo! =]

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-intelligence-briefing-russia-20161014-story.html

Former senior U.S. national security officials are dismayed at Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump's repeated refusal to accept the judgment of intelligence professionals that Russia stole files from the Democratic National Committee computers in an effort to influence the U.S. election.

The former officials, who have served presidents in both parties, say they were bewildered when Trump cast doubt on Russia's role after receiving a classified briefing on the subject and again after an unusually blunt statement from U.S. agencies saying they were "confident" that Moscow had orchestrated the attacks.

"It defies logic," retired Gen. Michael Hayden, former director of the CIA and the National Security Agency, said of Trump's pronouncements.

Trump has assured supporters that, if elected, he would surround himself with experts on defense and foreign affairs, where he has little experience. But when it comes to Russia, he has made it clear that he is not listening to intelligence officials, the former officials said.

"He seems to ignore their advice," Hayden said. "Why would you assume this would change when he is in office?"

The Trump campaign did not respond to requests for comment.

Several former intelligence officials interviewed this week believe that Trump is either willfully disputing intelligence assessments, has a blind spot on Russia, or perhaps doesn't understand the nonpartisan traditions and approach of intelligence professionals.

In the first debate, after intelligence and congressional officials were quoted saying that Russia almost certainly broke into the DNC computers, Trump said: "I don't think anybody knows it was Russia that broke into the DNC. I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, okay?"

During the second presidential debate, Trump ignored what a U.S. government official said the candidate learned in a private intelligence briefing: that government officials were certain Russia hacked the DNC. That conclusion was followed by a public and unequivocal announcement by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the Department of Homeland Security that Russia was to blame.

"Maybe there is no hacking," Trump said during that debate.

"I don't recall a previous candidate saying they didn't believe" the information from an intelligence briefing, said John Rizzo, a former CIA lawyer who served under seven presidents and became the agency's acting general counsel. "These are career people. They aren't administration officials. What does that do to their morale and credibility?"

Former acting CIA director John MacLaughlin said all previous candidates took the briefings to heart.

"In my experience, candidates have taken into the account the information they have received and modulated their comments," he said. Trump, on the other hand, "is playing politics. He's trying to diminish the impression people have that [a Russian hack of the DNC] somehow helps his cause."

On Thursday, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, said information she received has led her to conclude that Russia is attempting "to fix this election." She called on Trump and elected officials from both parties "to vocally and forcefully reject these efforts."

Trump has consistently adopted positions likely to find favor with the Kremlin. He has, for instance, criticized NATO allies for not paying their fair share and defended Russian President Vladimir Putin's human rights record.

"It's remarkable that he's refused to say an unkind syllable about Vladimir Putin," Hayden said. "He contorts himself not to criticize Putin."

Trump's running mate, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, said in the vice-presidential debate last week that the United States should "use military force" against the Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad.

Trump disagreed. Rather than challenge Assad and his Russian ally, Trump said in the second debate, the United States should be working with them against the Islamic State. "Assad is killing ISIS. Russia is killing ISIS. Iran is killing ISIS," he said, using an acronym for the Islamic State. Russia and Syria have mostly been targeting opposition groups as well as civilians trapped in Aleppo - not the Islamic State.

"That's the Syrian, Russia, Iranian narrative," Hayden said of Trump's assertions.

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Trumpets still don't believe he is working with Russia.

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I'll take Iran over Saudi Arabia.

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Knock this shit off. The trumpet is the finest of instruments and doesn't deserve to have its good name besmirched by this jackass.

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just an observation but dont brown people smell not saying bad thing but not like other people white people i mean dont smell as bad could just be me but just wondering. is it just me or are black people always crying about this or that, not hearing it from white people but that could just be me. not sure dont quote me i am peaceful i love all people but just my own viewpoint dont judge me on that. what is it about muslim people always wanting people to change for them not saying its right for christian white people too just sayin is it right for muslims? hilarious joke i heard, what did they call a bunch fo blacks taking a shower together? gorillas in the mist have a sense of humor its funny. not tryin to downplay racism now dont take it the wrong way just havin fun. trump is a bad guy but are you really defending clinton can you believe what our military go through i am a historian i can tell you but did you know that more white people have given their lives for so much that minorities take for granted. just my humble two cents take what you want from it. now let's go see star wars and new comic book movies.


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just an observation but dont brown people smell not saying bad thing but not like other people white people i mean dont smell as bad could just be me but just wondering. is it just me or are black people always crying about this or that, not hearing it from white people but that could just be me. not sure dont quote me i am peaceful i love all people but just my own viewpoint dont judge me on that. what is it about muslim people always wanting people to change for them not saying its right for christian white people too just sayin is it right for muslims? hilarious joke i heard, what did they call a bunch fo blacks taking a shower together? gorillas in the mist have a sense of humor its funny. not tryin to downplay racism now dont take it the wrong way just havin fun. trump is a bad guy but are you really defending clinton can you believe what our military go through i am a historian i can tell you but did you know that more white people have given their lives for so much that minorities take for granted. just my humble two cents take what you want from it. now let's go see star wars and new comic book movies.


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Knock this shit off. The trumpet is the finest of instruments and doesn't deserve to have its good name besmirched by this jackass.

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WASHINGTON — Republican vice presidential candidate Mike Pence vigorously defended running mate Donald Trump against allegations of sexual misconduct and promised evidence casting doubt on the claims would come out on Friday.

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The Drumpf campaign is in total meltdown. :lol:

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“If she’s in office, I hope we can start a coup. She should be in prison or shot. That’s how I feel about it,” Dan Bowman, a 50-year-old contractor, said of Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee. “We’re going to have a revolution and take them out of office if that’s what it takes. There’s going to be a lot of bloodshed. But that’s what it’s going to take. . . . I would do whatever I can for my country.”
He then placed a Trump mask on his face and posed for pictures.


Completely normal.


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Social media quickly responded Saturday after a Milwaukee Sheriff who backs Donald Trump tweeted calling for “pitchforks and torches” to take on a corrupt government.
"It's incredible that our institutions of gov, WH, Congress, DOJ, and big media are corrupt & all we do is bitch. Pitchforks and torches time,” Sheriff David A. Clarke tweeted, along with a picture of people with torches, and wooden clubs.


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“If she’s in office, I hope we can start a coup. She should be in prison or shot. That’s how I feel about it,” Dan Bowman, a 50-year-old contractor, said of Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee. “We’re going to have a revolution and take them out of office if that’s what it takes. There’s going to be a lot of bloodshed. But that’s what it’s going to take. . . . I would do whatever I can for my country.”
He then placed a Trump mask on his face and posed for pictures.


Completely normal.


That's real?

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“If she’s in office, I hope we can start a coup. She should be in prison or shot. That’s how I feel about it,” Dan Bowman, a 50-year-old contractor, said of Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee. “We’re going to have a revolution and take them out of office if that’s what it takes. There’s going to be a lot of bloodshed. But that’s what it’s going to take. . . . I would do whatever I can for my country.”
He then placed a Trump mask on his face and posed for pictures.


Completely normal.


I sure hope that Mr. Bowman is now on a watch list. This dope sounds like one of the Bundy clan.

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“If she’s in office, I hope we can start a coup. She should be in prison or shot. That’s how I feel about it,” Dan Bowman, a 50-year-old contractor, said of Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee. “We’re going to have a revolution and take them out of office if that’s what it takes. There’s going to be a lot of bloodshed. But that’s what it’s going to take. . . . I would do whatever I can for my country.”
He then placed a Trump mask on his face and posed for pictures.


Completely normal.


That's real?

Sadly, yes.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don ... r2qwtdquxr

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