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LTG is twisting himself into some pretty impressive knots here.

Ouch!

She has no resume, none, zero.

So what's left?


Your narrative (and others) that she is incompetent doesn't quite jive either. If she is so incompetent then why do most people that have ever worked with her rave about her competence?

If she is so incompetent then why was there strong consideration within the Obama White House to have her replace Biden as VEEP?


Why do they rave? Because she pays well and can basically black ball your ass if you bad mouth her, duh.

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I like people that understand and embrace the system. We had the "change" agent 8 yrs ago and by most metrics where did it get anyone?


look, I voted for Obama because he was the best candidate in the democratic ticket. I didn't need to vote for him in the general because Illinois. But it's disingenuous to compare Obama to say, Bernie Sanders. That's so ridiculous I'm not sure where to begin.



The results would not doubt be similar. Sanders couldn't get any Democratic Senators to support him ( save one). That says a lot about what his future performance might be. Both Obama and Sanders touted their ability to change things. Neither has ever demonstrated that they could and neither has demonstrated a willingness to work with other politicians. That is sort of requirement for performing the job. I wonder what you mean by ridiculous. It seems like you had nothing else so might as well characterize.


Typical Clintonian follower. Dump on the people who helped you get where you are once you are done with them.



The intellectual atrophy with each succeeding post that you make is reminiscent of the sort found in Brandon Roy's knee. At least he was once considered great though.

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LTG is twisting himself into some pretty impressive knots here.

Ouch!

She has no resume, none, zero.

So what's left?


Your narrative (and others) that she is incompetent doesn't quite jive either. If she is so incompetent then why do most people that have ever worked with her rave about her competence?

If she is so incompetent then why was there strong consideration within the Obama White House to have her replace Biden as VEEP?


Why do they rave? Because she pays well and can basically black ball your ass if you bad mouth her, duh.


You are the same guy that not so long ago touted the greatness that is Donald Trump. How'd that workout for you champ? Shouldn't Hillary be dead by now? You really active with a plethora of misinformation in the not so distant past. You have comeup snake eyes each and every time.

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You have me confused with SOme Guy. I am not really that much a Trump guy as I am anti HRC. You keep posting the same replies to posts days apart , you got a sheet next to your computer that you can reference for you nice little pithy replies?

really in my last couple of posts please tell me what has been snake eyes besides the obvious snarky reply?

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The fact that it never passed is besides the point and to suggest that it was akin to a "cause" is false.

She was intimately involved in policy and strategy. She was one of the people that strongly advocated for bringing Dick Morris aboard. Ask him and AL Gore if she was simply a wife?
It was dead by 1994, it wasn't even supported by Democrats, and it caused the balance of power in Washington to shift.

Senior Health Policy Advisor Paul Starr has also said that Bill was the driving force behind the plan.

But once again, it was not a position that was voted on or with ANY power whatsoever.

If my wife were a Senator could I say I was in national politics too? I'm sure she would ask my opinion on things also. This is the 21st century. White men have a voice too.


:lol: :lol: She was a key player in the Clinton administration until someone ties her to the misdeeds of Bill Clinton, then she's suddenly a poor little wife with a bad husband.
:lol:

Also, don't both Nas and ltg blame Bill Clinton for a ton of bad things that happened to our country?

I know Nas does. I think they both found common ground there though. If not then I am happy to be corrected.


We all look alike. :wink: I hate Bill and LTG loves him.

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chas once again providing the political knowledge.



Oxymoron. At least I know the Genesis behind your political acumen. Explains everything.

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long time guy wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
long time guy wrote:
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long time guy wrote:

I like people that understand and embrace the system. We had the "change" agent 8 yrs ago and by most metrics where did it get anyone?


look, I voted for Obama because he was the best candidate in the democratic ticket. I didn't need to vote for him in the general because Illinois. But it's disingenuous to compare Obama to say, Bernie Sanders. That's so ridiculous I'm not sure where to begin.



The results would not doubt be similar. Sanders couldn't get any Democratic Senators to support him ( save one). That says a lot about what his future performance might be. Both Obama and Sanders touted their ability to change things. Neither has ever demonstrated that they could and neither has demonstrated a willingness to work with other politicians. That is sort of requirement for performing the job. I wonder what you mean by ridiculous. It seems like you had nothing else so might as well characterize.


Typical Clintonian follower. Dump on the people who helped you get where you are once you are done with them.



The intellectual atrophy with each succeeding post that you make is reminiscent of the sort found in Brandon Roy's knee. At least he was once considered great though.



:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Nas wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
long time guy wrote:
The fact that it never passed is besides the point and to suggest that it was akin to a "cause" is false.

She was intimately involved in policy and strategy. She was one of the people that strongly advocated for bringing Dick Morris aboard. Ask him and AL Gore if she was simply a wife?
It was dead by 1994, it wasn't even supported by Democrats, and it caused the balance of power in Washington to shift.

Senior Health Policy Advisor Paul Starr has also said that Bill was the driving force behind the plan.

But once again, it was not a position that was voted on or with ANY power whatsoever.

If my wife were a Senator could I say I was in national politics too? I'm sure she would ask my opinion on things also. This is the 21st century. White men have a voice too.


:lol: :lol: She was a key player in the Clinton administration until someone ties her to the misdeeds of Bill Clinton, then she's suddenly a poor little wife with a bad husband.
:lol:

Also, don't both Nas and ltg blame Bill Clinton for a ton of bad things that happened to our country?

I know Nas does. I think they both found common ground there though. If not then I am happy to be corrected.


We all look alike. :wink: I hate Bill and LTG loves him.


I don't think he was confused by any similarities in skin tone, but rather your lockstep blind fealty to Hillary Clinton.

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Nas wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
long time guy wrote:
The fact that it never passed is besides the point and to suggest that it was akin to a "cause" is false.

She was intimately involved in policy and strategy. She was one of the people that strongly advocated for bringing Dick Morris aboard. Ask him and AL Gore if she was simply a wife?
It was dead by 1994, it wasn't even supported by Democrats, and it caused the balance of power in Washington to shift.

Senior Health Policy Advisor Paul Starr has also said that Bill was the driving force behind the plan.

But once again, it was not a position that was voted on or with ANY power whatsoever.

If my wife were a Senator could I say I was in national politics too? I'm sure she would ask my opinion on things also. This is the 21st century. White men have a voice too.


:lol: :lol: She was a key player in the Clinton administration until someone ties her to the misdeeds of Bill Clinton, then she's suddenly a poor little wife with a bad husband.
:lol:

Also, don't both Nas and ltg blame Bill Clinton for a ton of bad things that happened to our country?

I know Nas does. I think they both found common ground there though. If not then I am happy to be corrected.


We all look alike. :wink: I hate Bill and LTG loves him.
:lol:

I swear you guys had a discussion about his housing policy or something but I don't really care too much.

I love Bill Clinton too so me and ltg are good.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
long time guy wrote:
The fact that it never passed is besides the point and to suggest that it was akin to a "cause" is false.

She was intimately involved in policy and strategy. She was one of the people that strongly advocated for bringing Dick Morris aboard. Ask him and AL Gore if she was simply a wife?
It was dead by 1994, it wasn't even supported by Democrats, and it caused the balance of power in Washington to shift.

Senior Health Policy Advisor Paul Starr has also said that Bill was the driving force behind the plan.

But once again, it was not a position that was voted on or with ANY power whatsoever.

If my wife were a Senator could I say I was in national politics too? I'm sure she would ask my opinion on things also. This is the 21st century. White men have a voice too.


:lol: :lol: She was a key player in the Clinton administration until someone ties her to the misdeeds of Bill Clinton, then she's suddenly a poor little wife with a bad husband.
:lol:

Also, don't both Nas and ltg blame Bill Clinton for a ton of bad things that happened to our country?

I know Nas does. I think they both found common ground there though. If not then I am happy to be corrected.


We all look alike. :wink: I hate Bill and LTG loves him.


I don't think he was confused by any similarities in skin tone, but rather your lockstep blind fealty to Hillary Clinton.


This is bullshit and you know it. I can be critical of Hillary without holding her to a standard I've never held anyone else. I

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
long time guy wrote:
The fact that it never passed is besides the point and to suggest that it was akin to a "cause" is false.

She was intimately involved in policy and strategy. She was one of the people that strongly advocated for bringing Dick Morris aboard. Ask him and AL Gore if she was simply a wife?
It was dead by 1994, it wasn't even supported by Democrats, and it caused the balance of power in Washington to shift.

Senior Health Policy Advisor Paul Starr has also said that Bill was the driving force behind the plan.

But once again, it was not a position that was voted on or with ANY power whatsoever.

If my wife were a Senator could I say I was in national politics too? I'm sure she would ask my opinion on things also. This is the 21st century. White men have a voice too.


:lol: :lol: She was a key player in the Clinton administration until someone ties her to the misdeeds of Bill Clinton, then she's suddenly a poor little wife with a bad husband.
:lol:

Also, don't both Nas and ltg blame Bill Clinton for a ton of bad things that happened to our country?

I know Nas does. I think they both found common ground there though. If not then I am happy to be corrected.


We all look alike. :wink: I hate Bill and LTG loves him.


I don't think he was confused by any similarities in skin tone, but rather your lockstep blind fealty to Hillary Clinton.


On the contraire. I understand that she is flawed and has made mistakes. I'm cool that though. I'm voting for her because I think she is the best person running for President. I don't think that she is the abomination that people make her out to be. I honestly think that some of it is unfair.

She doesn't get credit for anything. It is obvious that she knows her shit. It's the case now and it was the case 8 yrs ago too. Easily the most knowledgeable person running.

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You have me confused with SOme Guy. I am not really that much a Trump guy as I am anti HRC. You keep posting the same replies to posts days apart , you got a sheet next to your computer that you can reference for you nice little pithy replies?

really in my last couple of posts please tell me what has been snake eyes besides the obvious snarky reply?


As Trumpets go, to steal from Nas, you are merely Buddy Roberts to Someguy's Michael P.S. Hayes.

Your Trump allegiance was firmly established, not so coincidentally when Hillary health scare was the topic of the day. That was, conveniently for you and Someguy the period of the campaign when the polls were the tightest.

Your allegiance was cemented tighter than a construction site ran by Sammy the Bull Gravano. Can't back peddle now.

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Lets get back to Bill giving young teens Cleveland steamers and the like....

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Lets get back to Bill giving young teens Cleveland steamers and the like....


Personally I don't care for more Clinton speculative stuff. If they have it run it. Clinton insinuations have been quite profitable for a number of right wing conservative types over the past 20 years. That is old now. If it's legit let's go find Hillarys role and ascertain if it is a deal killer.

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chaspoppcap wrote:
You have me confused with SOme Guy. I am not really that much a Trump guy as I am anti HRC. You keep posting the same replies to posts days apart , you got a sheet next to your computer that you can reference for you nice little pithy replies?

really in my last couple of posts please tell me what has been snake eyes besides the obvious snarky reply?


As Trumpets go, to steal from Nas, you are merely Buddy Roberts to Someguy's Michael P.S. Hayes.

Your Trump allegiance was firmly established, not so coincidentally when Hillary health scare was the topic of the day. That was, conveniently for you and Someguy the period of the campaign when the polls were the tightest.

Your allegiance was cemented tighter than a construction site ran by Sammy the Bull Gravano. Can't back peddle now.


No doubt chas is a Trumpet. I think he came out a week or 2 ago. Before then he just asked "what was wrong with what Trump said".

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Nas wrote:
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chaspoppcap wrote:
You have me confused with SOme Guy. I am not really that much a Trump guy as I am anti HRC. You keep posting the same replies to posts days apart , you got a sheet next to your computer that you can reference for you nice little pithy replies?

really in my last couple of posts please tell me what has been snake eyes besides the obvious snarky reply?


As Trumpets go, to steal from Nas, you are merely Buddy Roberts to Someguy's Michael P.S. Hayes.

Your Trump allegiance was firmly established, not so coincidentally when Hillary health scare was the topic of the day. That was, conveniently for you and Someguy the period of the campaign when the polls were the tightest.

Your allegiance was cemented tighter than a construction site ran by Sammy the Bull Gravano. Can't back peddle now.


No doubt chas is a Trumpet. I think he came out a week or 2 ago. Before then he just asked "what was wrong with what Trump said".


Like a number of Trumpets he waited for the most opportune time to demonstrate his allegiance. They were all singing from the rooftops during the Health scare era.

Standard Trumpet playbook.

1. Bash Hillary repeatedly regardless of merit

2. Ignore anything negative related to Trump

3. Utilize any false equivalency available.

4. Shift the focus to Hillary whenever the originator of the discussion is Trump.

5. Make the conversation about Hillary supporters whenever truly stymied.

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Nas wrote:
long time guy wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
You have me confused with SOme Guy. I am not really that much a Trump guy as I am anti HRC. You keep posting the same replies to posts days apart , you got a sheet next to your computer that you can reference for you nice little pithy replies?

really in my last couple of posts please tell me what has been snake eyes besides the obvious snarky reply?


As Trumpets go, to steal from Nas, you are merely Buddy Roberts to Someguy's Michael P.S. Hayes.

Your Trump allegiance was firmly established, not so coincidentally when Hillary health scare was the topic of the day. That was, conveniently for you and Someguy the period of the campaign when the polls were the tightest.

Your allegiance was cemented tighter than a construction site ran by Sammy the Bull Gravano. Can't back peddle now.


No doubt chas is a Trumpet. I think he came out a week or 2 ago. Before then he just asked "what was wrong with what Trump said".


Like a number of Trumpets he waited for the most opportune time to demonstrate his allegiance. They were all singing from the rooftops during the Health scare era.

Standard Trumpet playbook.

1. Bash Hillary repeatedly regardless of merit

2. Ignore anything negative related to Trump

3. Utilize any false equivalency available.

4. Shift the focus to Hillary whenever the originator of the discussion is Trump.

5. Make the conversation about Hillary supporters whenever truly stymied.


Sounds about right. I think they're running #2 and #3 into the ground.

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long time guy wrote:
Nas wrote:
long time guy wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:
You have me confused with SOme Guy. I am not really that much a Trump guy as I am anti HRC. You keep posting the same replies to posts days apart , you got a sheet next to your computer that you can reference for you nice little pithy replies?

really in my last couple of posts please tell me what has been snake eyes besides the obvious snarky reply?


As Trumpets go, to steal from Nas, you are merely Buddy Roberts to Someguy's Michael P.S. Hayes.

Your Trump allegiance was firmly established, not so coincidentally when Hillary health scare was the topic of the day. That was, conveniently for you and Someguy the period of the campaign when the polls were the tightest.

Your allegiance was cemented tighter than a construction site ran by Sammy the Bull Gravano. Can't back peddle now.


No doubt chas is a Trumpet. I think he came out a week or 2 ago. Before then he just asked "what was wrong with what Trump said".


Like a number of Trumpets he waited for the most opportune time to demonstrate his allegiance. They were all singing from the rooftops during the Health scare era.

Standard Trumpet playbook.

1. Bash Hillary repeatedly regardless of merit

2. Ignore anything negative related to Trump

3. Utilize any false equivalency available.

4. Shift the focus to Hillary whenever the originator of the discussion is Trump.

5. Make the conversation about Hillary supporters whenever truly stymied.


And you counter with:

1. Apologize for Hillary repeatedly regardless of merit

2. Ignore anything negative related to Hillary and point out that the GOP did it, too.

3. Utilize any false equivalency available.

4. Shift the focus to Trump whenever the originator of the discussion is Hillary.

5. Make the conversation about Trump supporters whenever truly stymied.
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The intellectual atrophy with each succeeding post that you make is reminiscent of the sort found in Brandon Roy's knee. At least he was once considered great though.



:lol: :lol: :lol:



There's a lot of crap around here, and I'll you let guys sort through the piles. But LTG was pretty creative in this reply.

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The intellectual atrophy with each succeeding post that you make is reminiscent of the sort found in Brandon Roy's knee. At least he was once considered great though.



:lol: :lol: :lol:



There's a lot of crap around here, and I'll you let guys sort through the piles. But LTG was pretty creative in this reply.


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So now people are just straight making stuff up concerning Hillary's "achievements?"

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Yeesh!

SHE HAS SAVED ALL THE CHILDREN IN AMERICA AND IS CURING AIDS IN AFRICA!!!!

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So now people are just straight making stuff up concerning Hillary's "achievements?"

Yeesh!

SHE HAS SAVED ALL THE CHILDREN IN AMERICA AND IS CURING AIDS IN AFRICA!!!!


She is saving all the ones that Trump has yet to molest.

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So now people are just straight making stuff up concerning Hillary's "achievements?"

Yeesh!

SHE HAS SAVED ALL THE CHILDREN IN AMERICA AND IS CURING AIDS IN AFRICA!!!!


Bush saved Africa from the HIV monster.

You gotta love people pointing to her dipshit health care push back in the 90s as some big example of how experienced and awesome she is. It was garbage and a total failure on all levels. As is the case with Hillary for much of her political career she was handed some table scraps and sent on her way.

She is the poster child of a political cockroach. Her entire campaign is her being hidden away and told to be quiet until election day.
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So now people are just straight making stuff up concerning Hillary's "achievements?"

Yeesh!

SHE HAS SAVED ALL THE CHILDREN IN AMERICA AND IS CURING AIDS IN AFRICA!!!!


Bush saved Africa from the HIV monster.

You gotta love people pointing to her dipshit health care push back in the 90s as some big example of how experienced and awesome she is. It was garbage and a total failure on all levels. As is the case with Hillary for much of her political career she was handed some table scraps and sent on her way.

She is the poster child of a political cockroach. Her entire campaign is her being hidden away and told to be quiet until election day.


In fairness, this is the smart move. Even if she was actually a good person, with a solid track record, and qualified to be president. No point in risking a misstep when your opponent is on the dance floor trying to suck his own dick in front of everyone.
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So now people are just straight making stuff up concerning Hillary's "achievements?"

Yeesh!

SHE HAS SAVED ALL THE CHILDREN IN AMERICA AND IS CURING AIDS IN AFRICA!!!!


Bush saved Africa from the HIV monster.

You gotta love people pointing to her dipshit health care push back in the 90s as some big example of how experienced and awesome she is. It was garbage and a total failure on all levels. As is the case with Hillary for much of her political career she was handed some table scraps and sent on her way.

She is the poster child of a political cockroach. Her entire campaign is her being hidden away and told to be quiet until election day.


You have the interpretative ability of Dan Quayle. Whether health care succeeded or not really isn't relevant to the original point made by Brick. The fact that she was allowed to lead on it debunks the myth that she was simply "a wife". Hard to make the case when she was allowed to lead on a consequential piece of legislation.

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Big Chicagoan wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
Gloopan Kuratz wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
So now people are just straight making stuff up concerning Hillary's "achievements?"

Yeesh!

SHE HAS SAVED ALL THE CHILDREN IN AMERICA AND IS CURING AIDS IN AFRICA!!!!


Bush saved Africa from the HIV monster.

You gotta love people pointing to her dipshit health care push back in the 90s as some big example of how experienced and awesome she is. It was garbage and a total failure on all levels. As is the case with Hillary for much of her political career she was handed some table scraps and sent on her way.

She is the poster child of a political cockroach. Her entire campaign is her being hidden away and told to be quiet until election day.


In fairness, this is the smart move. Even if she was actually a good person, with a solid track record, and qualified to be president. No point in risking a misstep when your opponent is on the dance floor trying to suck his own dick in front of everyone.


Only avowed Hillary haters such as Some guy can't see that the best move to make would be to simply let the asshole wither away. Sort of like what Khruscev and the boys allowed to happen to Stalin in 53'

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long time guy wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
Gloopan Kuratz wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
So now people are just straight making stuff up concerning Hillary's "achievements?"

Yeesh!

SHE HAS SAVED ALL THE CHILDREN IN AMERICA AND IS CURING AIDS IN AFRICA!!!!


Bush saved Africa from the HIV monster.

You gotta love people pointing to her dipshit health care push back in the 90s as some big example of how experienced and awesome she is. It was garbage and a total failure on all levels. As is the case with Hillary for much of her political career she was handed some table scraps and sent on her way.

She is the poster child of a political cockroach. Her entire campaign is her being hidden away and told to be quiet until election day.


You have the interpretative ability of Dan Quayle. Whether health care succeeded or not really isn't relevant to the original point made by Brick. The fact that she was allowed to lead on it debunks the myth that she was simply "a wife". Hard to make the case when she was allowed to lead on a consequential piece of legislation.


Correct. And she was a key leader on the team that figured out how to discredit Bill's rape victims. So when that gets brought up, don't you dare say, "Bill Clinton isn't running." You just can't have it both ways.

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