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USA Today article covering this...

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The Cubs, in first place all but one game this year, running away with the NL Central, slapping the San Francisco Giants around in the Division Series, find themselves in trouble for the first time all season.

The Cubs, suffering the indignity of back-to-back postseason shutouts for the first time in franchise history, lost 6-0, to the Los Angeles Dodgers, and suddenly find themselves trailing this best-of-seven National League Championship Series, 2-1.

It was the first time in the Dodgers’ glorious history, even with Hall of Famers Sandy Koufax and Don Drysdale on the same staff, they ever pitched back to-back postseason shutouts in their 200-game playoff history.

It’s a little tough to win a pennant, let alone a game, when you’re hitting .193 team this postseason, producing just six hits in the last 18 innings, with three of their everyday players hitting less than .100.

Things have gotten so desperate that Cubs manager Joe Maddon used Jason Heyward, who hit just .230 during the season, and .105 this postseason, to pinch-hit for All-Star shortstop Addison Russell. Heyward struck out. Russell went home with a .042 batting average.

“I’m very surprised what’s happening,’’ Cubs catcher Miguel Montero says. “Very surprised. Obviously, we have high expectations of ourselves coming in, but we’re just not swinging the bats.

“I think we’re trying too hard. We’re all trying to be heroes here. We need to have a better approach as a team.’’

Maybe, it was suggested, the Cubs still are too young, and don’t have enough postseason seasoning to thrive on the big stage?

“No, that’s not an excuse,’’ Montero said. “We have a young team, but we got experience. We’ve got guys in here that have been here at least two full years. We just do not have a good game plan.

“We’ve got to grow to get better, and that starts now.

“We’ve got to rejuvenate ourselves, maybe have a few drinks, and forget about it.’’

It was the only laughter heard in the Cubs’ clubhouse as players quietly shuffled through the clubhouse door, heading toward the team buses.

“Peaks and valleys in this game sometimes makes you go crazy,’’ said third baseman Kris Bryant, who had two of the four Cubs’ hits, “but we have more games. We have time to get that confidence back, figure things out, and I’m sure we will.’’

Panic?

“No,’’ Bryant said. “It’s super calm. Nobody is throwing stuff. Sure, on the outside, you might want to think that’s what’s going on, but there is no panic. Not in here. It’s good.’’

OK, so concern?

“Nope,’’ Bryant said.

So why the optimism?

“Belief is very powerful,’’ Bryant said, “and we have that here. We’re here for a reason. We’ve done it all year.’’

Still, the team that showed up in October bears little resemblance to the one that scored 808 runs during the season. They’ve scored nine of their 25 total runs in just two innings. Their outfield actually has been out-homered by their pitching staff, 2-1.


i wouldn't say they "slapped around" the giants. that series was also a little concerning.

but if you're admittedly trying too hard...there's a part of you that *is* panicking and *is* concerned.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2016/10/18/cubs-trail-nlcs/92396794/

what should happen tonight is that they do "slap around" a 20 year old pitcher with those godawful glasses and win 10-2, getting their confidence back.

well, they could've done that last night against a pitcher who didn't find his stuff until the cubs found it for him. i could totally see this kid pinning them down.


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The Cubs are fine. They'll lose the Kershaw game whenever that is and win the rest.

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I knew things went from bad to worse for us last night when I saw Animal leading the crowd in a "Justin!! Justin!!" chant on the Dodgers video board. :(

This is definitely an uphill battle, boys. They have The Muppets in their corner... :shock:

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I knew things went from bad to worse for us last night when I saw Animal leading the crowd in a "Justin!! Justin!!" chant on the Dodgers video board. :(

This is definitely an uphill battle, boys. They have The Muppets in their corner... :shock:


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I woke up with a moment of clarity.

Cubs in 6

This is all just part of the story for the Championship DVD.

It will be glorious when they defeat Kershaw at Wrigley to seal the deal.


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Hockey Gay wrote:
I woke up with a moment of clarity.

Cubs in 6

This is all just part of the story for the Championship DVD.

It will be glorious when they defeat Kershaw at Wrigley to seal the deal.


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Hockey Gay wrote:
I woke up with a moment of clarity.

Cubs in 6

This is all just part of the story for the Championship DVD.

It will be glorious when they defeat Kershaw at Wrigley to seal the deal.


Here is a positive thought for you. During a Hawks cup run they were down 3-1 to the Wings. I thought they were dead for sure and gave up. They won the cup. That my friends is my last uplifting thought on the Cubs.

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Both Pete and Alex are right...stop looking for a walk and hit when you are up in the count 2-1 3-1

This is Theoball. It works great against the Reds but you run into guys who can exploit it and its a different story. For all the adoration Theo gets his offensive philosophy is stuck in 2004 with that "strike zone is the line of scrimmage" nonsense.

Pretty amazing to get 103 wins against the Reds in a single season though, you gotta admit.

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America wrote:
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Both Pete and Alex are right...stop looking for a walk and hit when you are up in the count 2-1 3-1

This is Theoball. It works great against the Reds but you run into guys who can exploit it and its a different story. For all the adoration Theo gets his offensive philosophy is stuck in 2004 with that "strike zone is the line of scrimmage" nonsense.

Pretty amazing to get 103 wins against the Reds in a single season though, you gotta admit.



40% of their wins came against Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, and Milwaukee.

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Darkside wrote:
America wrote:
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Both Pete and Alex are right...stop looking for a walk and hit when you are up in the count 2-1 3-1

This is Theoball. It works great against the Reds but you run into guys who can exploit it and its a different story. For all the adoration Theo gets his offensive philosophy is stuck in 2004 with that "strike zone is the line of scrimmage" nonsense.

Pretty amazing to get 103 wins against the Reds in a single season though, you gotta admit.


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Montero said. We just do not have a good game plan..

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Hockey Gay wrote:
I woke up with a moment of clarity.

Cubs in 6

This is all just part of the story for the Championship DVD.

It will be glorious when they defeat Kershaw at Wrigley to seal the deal.


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Hockey Gay wrote:
I woke up with a moment of clarity.

Cubs in 6

This is all just part of the story for the Championship DVD.

It will be glorious when they defeat Kershaw at Wrigley to seal the deal.


7, but I have to say, your prediction is not even close to implausible

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If the Cubs lose, we will be tormented all offseason. No reason to torment ourselves now...lets enjoy the comeback...or at least be hopeful for one.

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If a fat 20 year old kid with only 1 functioning eye shuts us down then might as well disband the franchise.


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Is this trolling? Or are you guys just a bunch of mental midgets? It's 2-1.

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Is this trolling? Or are you guys just a bunch of mental midgets? It's 2-1.

No kidding. It's far from over.

Nothing is over until we decide it is!

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Is this trolling? Or are you guys just a bunch of mental midgets? It's 2-1.

Hockey Gay is trolling but City of Fools is a mental midget.

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Is this trolling? Or are you guys just a bunch of mental midgets? It's 2-1.

No kidding. It's far from over.

Nothing is over until we decide it is!

I haven't seen anything to indicate it's not over. The at-bats I've seen since the playoffs have been putrid.


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Is this trolling? Or are you guys just a bunch of mental midgets? It's 2-1.



You're a Cardinal fan. You've learned to expect victory. It's not that way for teams of most franchises. I didn't believe the Sox were going to win in 2005 until Blum hit the homer. When they lost game 1 to the Angels I'm sure I felt just like these guys.

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We have no business winning tonight.

Lackey isn't even a pitcher anymore. His whole thing is pretty much just throwing fastballs down the middle and saying "hit it if you can" and eventually someone hits it very far. He's bad.

Urias is a monster and will probably be a top 5 pitcher in the game very soon. He's not the same guy who we shelled in his mlb debut. This is the last guy we want to face after being shutout two straight games.

The Cubs are going to win though because it's destiny that we win the World Series this year.


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Lackey. For how many years did Theo sign a pitcher whose career predates the second Iraq War? Smarty McSmartsmart sure blows a lot of money on free agent pitchers.

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We have no business winning tonight.

Lackey isn't even a pitcher anymore. His whole thing is pretty much just throwing fastballs down the middle and saying "hit it if you can" and eventually someone hits it very far. He's bad.

Urias is a monster and will probably be a top 5 pitcher in the game very soon. He's not the same guy who we shelled in his mlb debut. This is the last guy we want to face after being shutout two straight games.

The Cubs are going to win though because it's destiny that we win the World Series this year.


I disagree on Urias.

The last guy you want to face would be another junkballer because I think they will come out aggressive tonight

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Lackey. For how many years did Theo sign a pitcher whose career predates the second Iraq War? Smarty McSmartsmart sure blows a lot of money on free agent pitchers.


He's no Ted Lilly!

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Look this team at least has shown a little more fight as shown by the Giants comeback and not folding when the Dodgers tied game 1 in the 8th so from that standpoint they're better than previous playoff teams they've had. That being said , they've struggled all year to hit good pitching and that's not exactly a secret. Hell, Arrieta doesn't take Bumgarner deep they probably lose the Giants series. Unless this Uriah Heep kid totally shits the bed tonight because he's nervous , I don't know how they're going to score enough to win with Lackey giving up his usual 4 runs. Then Kershaw tomorrow. Not looking good . As a side note , I'd offer up Arrieta this off season and see if some idiot GM will bite and give away something good.

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Is this trolling? Or are you guys just a bunch of mental midgets? It's 2-1.

No kidding. It's far from over.

Nothing is over until we decide it is!

I haven't seen anything to indicate it's not over. The at-bats I've seen since the playoffs have been putrid.

Agreed that it looks bad but we're still alive.

That brings hope, opportunity and most of all, a fighting chance.

It's been such a great season that I'm not going to give up that easily.

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The announcers keep calling him "yuri-iss" but that makes me want to go full Jon Miller and call him "OOO-ree-ahss."

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For how big of a prospect he is and how much he has been talked about for the past 3 years...it is amazing that they cannot get the correct pronunciation.

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I think Lackey gets it done tonight, I'd like to see Contreras in left, Zobrist @ 2nd and Baez @ SS. Addy can have the night off. Put Almora or JHey in Right.

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For how big of a prospect he is and how much he has been talked about for the past 3 years...it is amazing that they cannot get the correct pronunciation.

correct pronunciation?

a large portion of Americans last name's in this country are mispronounced. welcome julio!


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