He really is. All of this for some bullshit station he may be trying to start.

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His campaign is also saying that he won't accept the election results until they are certified. That means some time in mid December.

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Didn't wikikeaks reveal that Hillary got question in advance against Bernie?

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No. He was talking about the debate from last night. Everyone knows Chris Wallace and Fox News love Hillary.

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Maybe not.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_pol ... debate_row

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

They were streaming some stuff last night.

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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/trumpery
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/trumpery

The English language was way out in front on this one.

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The whole thing people are missing is how big a percentage of America hates Hillary. Obama became president because so many people hate Hillary. Hillary almost got beat by an 80 year old socialist from Vermont. The rules had to be in place to keep Bernie from winning. Any normal person would be beating Trump by 20+ points. Obama would probably win almost every state and beat Trump by 30 points.

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Bernie Sanders.lost by 4 million votes and needed a bogus caucus system in order to keep the race as close as it was. Given that it still really wasn't that close.

A narrative is forming which promotes the fallacious belief that the election was somehow stolen. It wasn't he lost.

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Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Gore went crying to the SOCUS, ad there are still people on this very board who claim that election and the one after it where stolen from the Dems.

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Obama may win by more but let's not forget that the polls had Hillary destroying Romney in 2012. When your name is on the ballot a lot changes.

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This is not true.

Bush appealed a State of Florida Court decision for a recount and brought it to the Supreme Court.

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So you're saying Trump is a good candidate to be this close?

I think Hillary is topped out where she is.

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Gore challenged the results of a state he lost by less than 1000 votes. He never claimed that the election was rigged and was gracious in defeat. The same is true of Nixon and Kerry.

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I'm saying people love you when you aren't on the ballot. Obama is WAY better at campaigning though so it likely he wins by more.

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I think there are more people on both sides who are voting against the other choice instead of voting for their choice.

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Just as an observation about the debate, yes Hillary had some good shots against Trump with her little comparison stunt of her experience versus his as a timeline. But Trump destroyed Hillary surprisingly on border and immigration policy.

Trump said that by allowing amnesty, it's unfair to the millions of people who are following the process. This is true. And the country is a nation of laws. Hillary is on the side of lawlessness, wanting amnesty and open borders.

When you boil down to it, Hillary is buster of U.S. sovereignty with her internationalism and corporatism. Contrast this with the wisdom of our first president, George Washington, who preached nationalism and unity in his farewell address. He said political parties were a scourge, and he was right.

Yes it does. The weak candidate thing really just doesn't jive. The media has pumped this since day one too. Throughout the process they promoted the idea that all of the energy was with Trump and Bernie. They hyped their rallies, touted their base, created the narrative about it being a change election, focused entirely on Hillary's negatives, etc.

You never heard anything about Hillary's "base". Does she even have one?

Now it's the only if someone else were running she'd be losing line. To date she gave Obama his toughest fight and if she'd run against the two guys that challenged him she'd have defeated them also.

Hillary Clinton is formidable. She eviscerated Trump during the first debate and merely had to hold serve during the last two.

She has her flaws and there are some aspects that I don't agree with but overall I think she will be fine. After the last two guys I want someone that has an idea of what the job entails on day one.

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Abortion was good for him too. His first 20 mins were solid. This was the best I've seen her in a debate. It was their best debate too.

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Really? I only watched the first two segments but I thought she stomped on him again from the part I saw.

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With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Yeah, I only saw the first 30 minutes or so, but he's awful at that point. Just appearing robotic and weird because he's trying to look "presidential". It's crazy to me at this point of the campaign that he isn't willing to own his outlandish persona.

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In fairness I strongly disagree with Hillary on abortion so I'm sure that plays a role. I thought he had his best performance early on. I thought Hillary was excellent for the most part throughout. Trump loses self control after about 30 mins.

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I certainly believe we should not be aborting fetuses an hour before they are to be born, and I think most Americans would agree with that as well, but I thought Hillary's answer was reasonable and for the most part likely true.

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I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

She didn't do a good job of answering pay for play Clinton Foundation.

She also didn't handle the Email either. That is going to be a stain but it's not a deal killer.

She also didn't do a good job with answering the hemispheric free market question either. She was deflecting too much.

Trump is such a terrible candidate that they were able to finish his campaign with the Latino beauty queen information.

The only time that he ever really mounted a challenge was when people thought Hillary Clinton was dead.

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She toyed with him when it came to Russia.

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I do think that stuff is terrible, but nobody cares. At least nobody who isn't already voting for Trump. She's got all this horrible damning e-mail correspondence and her defense is that it was hacked by Russians. Think about that for a minute. She's not sorry about anything she has done or said, but only that she got caught. And she isn't even embarrassed. In fact, I have yet to see either Clinton embarrassed by anything. She is trying to blame Trump for the hacking somehow. It's really ridiculous.

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I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Yes she did.

She also had him on the Chinese steel stuff too.

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I think her responses to the emails have been ridiculous from Day 1. A crime was likely committed but she was smart enough to be far enough away from it where no one could charge her. That being said she's absolutely right about Trump and Russia. That relationship and the hacking should be a major story.

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To be honest the inside campaign stuff really isn't that earth shattering. The stuff that Wiki leaks is leaking is the sort of stuff that goes on in campaigns. It's not beanbag. You find areas where you think your opponent is vulnerable and you go after it.

The 33,000 deleted emails could be something but the problem is that she was investigated for it already.

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There is collusion there and Ronald Reagan is turning over in his grave at the thought of a Republican nominee for President stumping for a communist.

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