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I don't necessarily agree with that. The middle of the road dems supported the invasion out of cowardice. They feared being labeled as unpatriotic during a period where that was viewed as the worst thing you could call a politician. I believe many (including Hillary) felt it was the wrong thing to do but weren't willing to take a moral stand.


If that's true, don't you think that's even worse?

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I don't necessarily agree with that. The middle of the road dems supported the invasion out of cowardice. They feared being labeled as unpatriotic during a period where that was viewed as the worst thing you could call a politician. I believe many (including Hillary) felt it was the wrong thing to do but weren't willing to take a moral stand.


If that's true, don't you think that's even worse?


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I don't necessarily agree with that. The middle of the road dems supported the invasion out of cowardice. They feared being labeled as unpatriotic during a period where that was viewed as the worst thing you could call a politician. I believe many (including Hillary) felt it was the wrong thing to do but weren't willing to take a moral stand.


If that's true, don't you think that's even worse?


Yes


And really, exactly what Krauthammer was saying about her in the column.

Look, I think most of us can stipulate a strong preference for Clinton over Trump given that's the only real choice. If we do so, can we also agree that every criticism of Clinton isn't an endorsement of Trump? And if "Never Trump" is the best argument you can muster for a candidate, that isn't really saying much for him/her.

The feelings about these candidates among intelligent, educated people cuts across ideologies. I mean, Tall Midget is as left-wing as Krauthammer is right and they're both reaching the same conclusions regarding this election, albeit for perhaps somewhat different reasons.

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I don't necessarily agree with that. The middle of the road dems supported the invasion out of cowardice. They feared being labeled as unpatriotic during a period where that was viewed as the worst thing you could call a politician. I believe many (including Hillary) felt it was the wrong thing to do but weren't willing to take a moral stand.


If that's true, don't you think that's even worse?


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And really, exactly what Krauthammer was saying about her in the column.

Look, I think most of us can stipulate a strong preference for Clinton over Trump given that's the only real choice. If we do so, can we also agree that every criticism of Clinton isn't an endorsement of Trump? And if "Never Trump" is the best argument you can muster for a candidate, that isn't really saying much for him/her.


The feelings about these candidates among intelligent, educated people cuts across ideologies. I mean, Tall Midget is as left-wing as Krauthammer is right and they're both reaching the same conclusions regarding this election, albeit for perhaps somewhat different reasons.


I recently saw that only 9 percent of the population voted for either Trump or Clinton during the primaries. For all of Trump's talk for it being a rigged system, he has a point in a round about way.

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I don't necessarily agree with that. The middle of the road dems supported the invasion out of cowardice. They feared being labeled as unpatriotic during a period where that was viewed as the worst thing you could call a politician. I believe many (including Hillary) felt it was the wrong thing to do but weren't willing to take a moral stand.


If that's true, don't you think that's even worse?


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And really, exactly what Krauthammer was saying about her in the column.

Look, I think most of us can stipulate a strong preference for Clinton over Trump given that's the only real choice. If we do so, can we also agree that every criticism of Clinton isn't an endorsement of Trump? And if "Never Trump" is the best argument you can muster for a candidate, that isn't really saying much for him/her.


The feelings about these candidates among intelligent, educated people cuts across ideologies. I mean, Tall Midget is as left-wing as Krauthammer is right and they're both reaching the same conclusions regarding this election, albeit for perhaps somewhat different reasons.


I recently saw that only 9 percent of the population voted for either Trump or Clinton during the primaries. For all of Trump's talk for it being a rigged system, he has a point in a round about way.


Population or registered voters?

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Nas wrote:
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I don't necessarily agree with that. The middle of the road dems supported the invasion out of cowardice. They feared being labeled as unpatriotic during a period where that was viewed as the worst thing you could call a politician. I believe many (including Hillary) felt it was the wrong thing to do but weren't willing to take a moral stand.


If that's true, don't you think that's even worse?


Yes

Yes as well. As I've stated before, I'm less bothered by her emails, lying and Benghazi than I am about that one decision. That said, I also agree that she's the only reasonable choice.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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That's enough for me right there. I cannot in good conscience read the rest. Chief apologist and leading pundit/prosecutor for Cheney including but not limited to the classified Energy panel, aggravated assault/ shooting coverup issues, 22MM missing emails & patriotism czar/media monitor in the run up to the invasion of Iraq.

He's the guy who continually argues that you can't trust the testimony of MANY, unless they share your same ideological bent. He's the conservative town crier/liar, 2000's edition.


He's a true conservative. You may disagree with him politically, but he's not some partisan goofball. I've read him taking Republicans to task on many occasions.


Yeah, when the prevailing repub opinion is blowing like a hurricane.

I just think he's almost completely 'intellectually' dishonest, like many of his CATO/Heritage Foundation companions


He seems to be seen as a neocon spokesman, but I don't really believe he is. He was certainly pro-Iraq invasion but not in a strong dogmatic way. I remember him laying out the case against it too. Everyone seems to forget that there was fairly strong consensus in favor of invasion. It was supported by middle of the road Democrats like Clinton and Kerry. It's not like it was some wacky military adventure dreamed up by Cheney and Rumsfeld.

I don't necessarily agree with that. The middle of the road dems supported the invasion out of cowardice. They feared being labeled as unpatriotic during a period where that was viewed as the worst thing you could call a politician. I believe many (including Hillary) felt it was the wrong thing to do but weren't willing to take a moral stand.



Yes the political culture was much different in 02. That said her vote for that War was the single biggest mistake of her career. Very few high profile politicians were willing to go against the grain by not voting for it though. Trumped up WMD claims also provided cover for them. I often wondered how Obama would have voted if he were a Senator at the time.

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based on his voting record while in office I would say 25 against/75 for

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based on his voting record while in office I would say 25 against/75 for


I believe he would have voted for it particularly given the climate and he would have been a very young Senator at the time. I really don't think he would have wanted to take on the powerful guys that were pro war.

The fact that he wasn't around for that particular vote is probably what propelled him to the office of the Presidency. No way to know for sure but she could never answer for that vote in 08. He kept hammering her on it and rightfully so.

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This is one of the best articles I've seen on the Trump Campaign. Great info on the people behind his social media fundraising campaign: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-27/inside-the-trump-bunker-with-12-days-to-go

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Almost every public and private metric suggests Trump is headed for a loss, possibly an epic one. His frustrated demeanor on the campaign trail suggests he knows it. Yet even as he nears the end of his presidential run, his team is sowing the seeds of a new enterprise with a direct marketing effort that they insist could still shock the world on Election Day.

Beginning last November, then ramping up in earnest when Trump became the Republican nominee, Kushner quietly built a sprawling digital fundraising database and social media campaign that’s become the locus of his father-in-law’s presidential bid. Trump’s top advisers won’t concede the possibility of defeat, but they’re candid about the value of what they’ve built even after the returns come in—and about Trump’s desire for influence regardless of outcome. “Trump is a builder,” says Bannon, in a rare interview. “And what he’s built is the underlying apparatus for a political movement that’s going to propel us to victory on Nov. 8 and dominate Republican politics after that.”

If Trump wants to strengthen his hold on his base, then his apocalyptic rhetoric on the stump begins to make more sense. Lately he’s sounded less like a candidate seeking to persuade moderates and swing voters and more like the far-right populist leaders who’ve risen throughout Europe. Most Republican Party officials ardently hope he’ll go away quietly if he loses. But given all that his campaign—and Kushner’s group especially—has been doing behind the scenes, it looks likelier that Trump and his lieutenants will stick around. They may emerge as a new media enterprise, an outsider political movement, or perhaps some combination of the two: an American UK Independence Party (UKIP) that will wage war on the Republican Party—or, rather, intensify the war that Trump and Bannon have already begun.

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This is one of the best articles I've seen on the Trump Campaign. Great info on the people behind his social media fundraising campaign: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-27/inside-the-trump-bunker-with-12-days-to-go

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Almost every public and private metric suggests Trump is headed for a loss, possibly an epic one. His frustrated demeanor on the campaign trail suggests he knows it. Yet even as he nears the end of his presidential run, his team is sowing the seeds of a new enterprise with a direct marketing effort that they insist could still shock the world on Election Day.

Beginning last November, then ramping up in earnest when Trump became the Republican nominee, Kushner quietly built a sprawling digital fundraising database and social media campaign that’s become the locus of his father-in-law’s presidential bid. Trump’s top advisers won’t concede the possibility of defeat, but they’re candid about the value of what they’ve built even after the returns come in—and about Trump’s desire for influence regardless of outcome. “Trump is a builder,” says Bannon, in a rare interview. “And what he’s built is the underlying apparatus for a political movement that’s going to propel us to victory on Nov. 8 and dominate Republican politics after that.”

If Trump wants to strengthen his hold on his base, then his apocalyptic rhetoric on the stump begins to make more sense. Lately he’s sounded less like a candidate seeking to persuade moderates and swing voters and more like the far-right populist leaders who’ve risen throughout Europe. Most Republican Party officials ardently hope he’ll go away quietly if he loses. But given all that his campaign—and Kushner’s group especially—has been doing behind the scenes, it looks likelier that Trump and his lieutenants will stick around. They may emerge as a new media enterprise, an outsider political movement, or perhaps some combination of the two: an American UK Independence Party (UKIP) that will wage war on the Republican Party—or, rather, intensify the war that Trump and Bannon have already begun.



This dude has been running one big marketing scam. His genius as a business man was debunked years ago by people that tend to build businesses. His latest venture in D.C. appears to be floundering too but he has mastered the art of selling himself.

Some form of media appears to the perfect outlet for him

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An artificial intelligence system that correctly predicted the last three U.S. presidential elections puts Republican nominee Donald Trump ahead of Democrat rival Hillary Clinton in the race for the White House.

MogIA was developed by Sanjiv Rai, founder of Indian start-up Genic.ai. It takes in 20 million data points from public platforms including Google, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube in the U.S. and then analyzes the information to create predictions.

The AI system was created in 2004, so it has been getting smarter all the time. It had already correctly predicted the results of the Democratic and Republican Primaries.

Data such as engagement with tweets or Facebook Live videos have been taken into account. The result is that Trump has overtaken the engagement numbers of Barack Obama 's peak in 2008 — the year he was elected president — by 25 percent.

Rai said that his AI system shows that the candidate in each election who had leading engagement data ended up winning the election.

"If Trump loses, it will defy the data trend for the first time in the last 12 years since Internet engagement began in full earnest," Rai wrote in a report sent to CNBC.

Currently most national polls put Clinton and the Democrats ahead by a strong margin. Rai said his data shows that Clinton should not get complacent.

But the entrepreneur admitted that there were limitations to the data in that sentiment around social media posts is difficult for the system to analyze. Just because somebody engages with a Trump tweet, it doesn't mean that they support him. Also there are currently more people on social media than there were in the three previous presidential elections.

"If you look at the primaries, in the primaries, there were immense amounts of negative conversations that happen with regards to Trump. However, when these conversations started picking up pace, in the final days, it meant a huge game opening for Trump and he won the primaries with a good margin," Rai told CNBC in a phone interview.

Using social media to predict outcomes of elections has become increasingly popular because of the amount of data available publicly. In September, Nick Beauchamp, an assistant professor of political science at Northeastern University, published a paper about his experiment applying AI to more than 100 million tweets in the 2012 election. He found that this closely mirrored the results seen in state-level polling.

"These results provide not just a tool for generating surveylike data, but also a method for investigating how what people say and think reflects, and perhaps even affects, their vote intentions," Beauchamp said.

Rai said his system would be improved by more granular data. He said that If Google was to give him access to the unique internet addresses assigned to each digital device, he could then collect data on exactly what people were thinking.

For example, Rai said if someone was searching for a YouTube video on how to vote, then looked for a video on how to vote for Trump, this could give the AI a good idea of the voter's intention. He added that there would be no privacy concerns as these internet addresses would be anonymized.

"Granularity of data will determine progressively lesser bias despite the weightage of negative or positive conversations," Rai wrote in his report, explaining how to improve the system.

MogIA is based on Mowgli, the child from Rudyard Kipling's novel "The Jungle Book." Rai said this is because his AI model learns from the environment.

"While most algorithms suffer from programmers/developer's biases, MoglA aims at learning from her environment, developing her own rules at the policy layer and develop expert systems without discarding any data," Rai said.

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An artificial intelligence system that correctly predicted the last three U.S. presidential elections puts Republican nominee Donald Trump ahead of Democrat rival Hillary Clinton in the race for the White House.


The last three elections were easy to predict.

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An artificial intelligence system that correctly predicted the last three U.S. presidential elections puts Republican nominee Donald Trump ahead of Democrat rival Hillary Clinton in the race for the White House.


The last three elections were easy to predict.

Hasn't the narrative for this one been that Hillary is going to win going away? That sounds pretty easy to predict to me.

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An artificial intelligence system that correctly predicted the last three U.S. presidential elections puts Republican nominee Donald Trump ahead of Democrat rival Hillary Clinton in the race for the White House.


The last three elections were easy to predict.

Hasn't the narrative for this one been that Hillary is going to win going away? That sounds pretty easy to predict to me.


That's the point. This time it looks to be incorrect.

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He says that Hillary could let in 650,000,000 refugees in one week, tripling our population.

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ABC News Uncovers MILLIONS Of Payments From Russia To Trump

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Sillary has lost already and should be in prison for her transgressions against the USA. Remember 1980 and shout it out Republican ruler will once again put us on the track to success.


what law did she break?

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