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I truly hope Bernstein gets mugged and beaten bloody. In a city with a lot of jackasses
he is number one.
What a pathetic human being. Fuck him.


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Great show. Can't disagree with a thing.

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Not reading 5 pages. Did anyone mention Terry sounding a little "strokey?" He seemed to have a bit of a slur.

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I read the thread and listened some. To be serious, Dan Bernstein - as always - is just a garbage human being. Obviously, I'm not religious, but decorating graves is - at worst - a waste of time and - at best - a psychological moment of joy for those who cope with the loss of loved ones. And it impacts no one except those who partake. I've run out of adjectives. He's just a piece of shit.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:40 pm 
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Not reading 5 pages. Did anyone mention Terry sounding a little "strokey?" He seemed to have a bit of a slur.

Terry did not have a stroke.


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I read the thread and listened some. To be serious, Dan Bernstein - as always - is just a garbage human being. Obviously, I'm not religious, but decorating graves is - at worst - a waste of time and - at best - a psychological moment of joy for those who cope with the loss of loved ones. And it impacts no one except those who partake. I've run out of adjectives. He's just a piece of shit.

I shut it off at that point. Here you people trying to deal with loss and maintain a connection to the past, and this jag ridicules it.

A few minutes earlier, a caller announced, "I'm from Cleveland," and Bernstein replies with a smugly disinterested "So what?" No, your emotional investment in your city and your team does not matter....except when Bernstein does it. Last week, he was referring to the Cubs as "we."

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Just because they wear that uniform and play in the same old ballpark doesn’t mean they inherit some shared history despite all the seeming desire to make it so.


This was the quote that got me. I know he wants to believe that because that is basically the entire point of that mess.

But, it's not true. They do inherit "some shared history". The same way Presidents that live in the White House inherit some shared history or radio hosts that take over a drivetime slot at a sports station inherit some shared history.

It may not mean much to the players on the field or it may mean a great deal. But, like it or not, Anthony Rizzo shares some history with Ernie Banks and Mark Grace and Larry Biittner because they played the same position in the same uniform on the same field.

I think it's 1000 words of garbage for Dan Bernstein to say that no Cub players care about the past or the fans. Some probably don't give a shit. Some may think it is very cool. He doesn't know. He just wants to believe it.

isn't that why (or the main reason why) Epstein came here--the challenge?

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His Hoyer interview provided a huge WYC. Dan asked Hoyer if putting Schwarber on the roster was, more than anything, a symbolic gesture to reward his hard work. Jed redponded with,"We aren't putting him on the roster unless we think he can hit some home runs and help us win a championship." He even said that any addition of Schwarber would have zero to do with sentimentality.


ALL THAT MATTERS IS CHAMPIONSHIPS, DAN. DON'T ASK DUMB QUESTIONS.

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His Hoyer interview provided a huge WYC. Dan asked Hoyer if putting Schwarber on the roster was, more than anything, a symbolic gesture to reward his hard work. Jed redponded with,"We aren't putting him on the roster unless we think he can hit some home runs and help us win a championship." He even said that any addition of Schwarber would have zero to do with sentimentality.


ALL THAT MATTERS IS CHAMPIONSHIPS, DAN. DON'T ASK DUMB QUESTIONS.


Yeah all excited fan boy Dan actually asked if it was a "prize" for Kyle.

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I only listened for 10 minutes on the drive from the train to the house, but even that was almost too much. Terry ripping Adrian Gonzalez for hitting it right into the shift, and Dan giddily stating that "you can bet the Cubs are looking at spray charts of the Indians as we speak." No shit, Dan...


here's the thing...the Cubs could have some proprietary things that put them a leg up...Dan just doesn't know what they are...

so he flies back to banal things that every team does and sells it as the Cubs being smarter. Even though on that stuff they're not. That's my take...


As if the Cubs are the only team that shifts. EVERY. FUCKING. TEAM. USES. SHIFTS. It's not just random for everyone but the Cubs either. The thing is though, as the data is coming in and the sample is growing, it's becoming clear that all of these radical shifts are actually doing very little, if anything, to reduce BABIP.


Right, the Cubs shifted the least amount of times in MLB. Yet their defense was one of the best. Cubs cracked the code. Key is to have good defenders on your team. Genius discovery, I know.


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My theory earlier this year was Cubs' defense making pitchers look a lot better.

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As if the Cubs are the only team that shifts. EVERY. FUCKING. TEAM. USES. SHIFTS. It's not just random for everyone but the Cubs either. The thing is though, as the data is coming in and the sample is growing, it's becoming clear that all of these radical shifts are actually doing very little, if anything, to reduce BABIP.


Overall BABIP, yes. On pulled grounders, however, the overall BABIP is down 13 points to .183 since, I think, 2011. Similarly, the BABIP on opposite-handed grounders is up to .379 from .255. However, if you have enough data (and enough samples), there will be a "break even" point, at which it becomes sensible to shift on a hitter to their pull side and open yourself up to the oppo-grounder, because of the hitter's overall tendencies.


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I have stopped listening to them almost completely. I listen sometimes if I am working from home and am in the car between 1 and 3 running errands. Otherwise I listen to either music, MLB network radio, or after 3 it is Bomani Jones on the ESPN XM feed.

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leashyourkids wrote:
I read the thread and listened some. To be serious, Dan Bernstein - as always - is just a garbage human being. Obviously, I'm not religious, but decorating graves is - at worst - a waste of time and - at best - a psychological moment of joy for those who cope with the loss of loved ones. And it impacts no one except those who partake. I've run out of adjectives. He's just a piece of shit.

I shut it off at that point. Here you people trying to deal with loss and maintain a connection to the past, and this jag ridicules it.

A few minutes earlier, a caller announced, "I'm from Cleveland," and Bernstein replies with a smugly disinterested "So what?" No, your emotional investment in your city and your team does not matter....except when Bernstein does it. Last week, he was referring to the Cubs as "we."


Yeah one of those guys calling about the grave thing sounded pretty offended when Bernstein scoffed at him. I though the guy was going to go off on him and spout anti-Semitic slurs like that Nation of Islam guy did when Dan was making fun of Tony Snell's hair.

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It was nice to hear Terry though. I thought I was prepared for a post-Boers afternoon show, but man that was rough...

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Dan's first sentence has been nagging at me all day:
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You get to have this because it really isn’t yours.

If it's not really mine then why do I get to have experience/emotion/moment?


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Such is the absurdity inherent in all sports fandom but so magnified in this one, a one-way street of connection that’s radiating such joy in large part due to the truth that only one end of the relationship cares about it that much.

This portion of the sentence is driving my brain insane. It's so jagged. A jumble of words. How could his editor (is there an editor) believe there shouldn't be a tighter sentence?

THAT THAT THAT THAT THAT


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Such is the absurdity inherent in all sports fandom but so magnified in this one, a one-way street of connection that’s radiating such joy in large part due to the truth that only one end of the relationship cares about it that much.

This portion of the sentence is driving my brain insane. It's so jagged. A jumble of words. How could his editor (is there an editor) believe there shouldn't be a tighter sentence?

THAT THAT THAT THAT THAT

What's not to like?

It's a one-way street which radiates emotion (as one-way streets are wont to do), and it is also a relationship between both ends of the one way street. There's plenty of absurdity inherent in that.

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Such is the absurdity inherent in all sports fandom but so magnified in this one, a one-way street of connection that’s radiating such joy in large part due to the truth that only one end of the relationship cares about it that much.

This portion of the sentence is driving my brain insane. It's so jagged. A jumble of words. How could his editor (is there an editor) believe there shouldn't be a tighter sentence?

THAT THAT THAT THAT THAT


No, there is no editor, as was apparent when Tim Baffoe referred to sympathizing with one's kidnapper as "Helsinki syndrome," which is actually when you sympathize with your kidnapper and your kidnapper is Teemu Selanne.


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It's a one-way street which radiates emotion (as one-way streets are wont to do)

streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet emooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooootion

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No, there is no editor, as was apparent when Tim Baffoe referred to sympathizing with one's kidnapper as "Helsinki syndrome," which is actually when you sympathize with your kidnapper and your kidnapper is Teemu Selanne.


I find it hard to believe that was not deliberate, but I don't really know his whole deal. Does he ever traffic in absurdism?

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Curious Hair wrote:
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Such is the absurdity inherent in all sports fandom but so magnified in this one, a one-way street of connection that’s radiating such joy in large part due to the truth that only one end of the relationship cares about it that much.

This portion of the sentence is driving my brain insane. It's so jagged. A jumble of words. How could his editor (is there an editor) believe there shouldn't be a tighter sentence?

THAT THAT THAT THAT THAT


No, there is no editor, as was apparent when Tim Baffoe referred to sympathizing with one's kidnapper as "Helsinki syndrome," which is actually when you sympathize with your kidnapper and your kidnapper is Teemu Selanne.


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It's a one-way street which radiates emotion (as one-way streets are wont to do)

streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet emooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooootion

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No, there is no editor, as was apparent when Tim Baffoe referred to sympathizing with one's kidnapper as "Helsinki syndrome," which is actually when you sympathize with your kidnapper and your kidnapper is Teemu Selanne.


I find it hard to believe that was not deliberate, but I don't really know his whole deal. Does he ever traffic in absurdism?

This is what happens when people are afraid to say "no" to you.

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I find it hard to believe that was not deliberate, but I don't really know his whole deal. Does he ever traffic in absurdism?

No, all he does is call everyone stupid.

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Curious Hair wrote:
Telegram Sam wrote:
I find it hard to believe that was not deliberate, but I don't really know his whole deal. Does he ever traffic in absurdism?

No, all he does is call everyone stupid.


Ok, well I was trying to cobble together an Oslo pun while walking my dogs, but I came up empty, so good. Fuck that guy.

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Telegram Sam wrote:
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I find it hard to believe that was not deliberate, but I don't really know his whole deal. Does he ever traffic in absurdism?

No, all he does is call everyone stupid.


Ok, well I was trying to cobble together an Oslo pun while walking my dogs, but I came up empty, so good. Fuck that guy.


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Jimmy, I have a feeling you would still like Hendry to be the GM


he got a raw deal for sure. maybe ricky rent-a-manager can bring him down to comiskey to replace rick hahn and then once the band's together they can draft the next javier baez and trade for the next matt garza? start making moves like that (along with paying edwin encarnacion or someone ~40mil more than the next highest bid [that they also made =]) and yeah i'm thinking it's time to turn back the clock to 2011 cuz i'd be "ALL IN" =D

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Theo & Jed had a lot of luck involved with their 3 year plan of planned sucking. I will never agree that was the right way.


dude, i respect your gumption to stick to your beliefs and all that, especially when nowadays it's easy to let go and go on autopilot all "LONG LIVE THE CUB" </hudsucker-proxy-references> ---- but COME ON DUDE.... seriously, THE PLAN(TM) worked out pretty damn fabulously (even without the 2nd super-high-draft-pick-that-you-tanked-for, babe fucking schwarber) and while i'll give you taht there was "luck" in arrieta coming good (which can also be attributed to scouting and perhaps realizing something was fixable w/arrieta that the orioles didn't?) and likely hendricks being THIS good.... but still... dude... what more do you want?

i mean seriously, look at the team you've got right now... look what it's on the verge of doing.... and right now you won't agree on the plan cuz you think they could make a run for the widcard in 2012-13 or something?! if the cubs win the world series this year i think i'm going to never agree with you on THE PLAN not being the right way =]

.......

/me inhales, exhales, goes and takes a piss and comes back to still be all kinds of "WOW!" that jimmy seriously believes that the cubs didn't go about this whole "lol we've got the best team in baseball appx 1-3yrs ahead of chedule" thing "THE RIGHT WAY" ?!?! lol.

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TLDR = lol..... comeon dude. i respect your gumption in sticking to your guns.... but i mean, honestly the only way you're "right" here is if the cubs DON'T win the world series this year, then you can start being all chest-puffy about how they shoulda tried to nick a wildcard in 2012-14 =D

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