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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:26 am 
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It could be that im just mad but all these stupid ass "only the 3rd guy in indian history to blah blah blah" is tbe most retarded level of commentary on the planet


I feel for you but I am pretty sure whatever team that is not going well is probably not going to like all that in the broadcast. They have done that stuff for Cubs and will again.


it really has nothing to do who was winning. its been in my craw for a while now. the combination of the cubs being on the other side, it being joe buck probably just let it overboil.

"bob is the first guy named bob to get a hit in the world series when the moon is waxing gibbous!" as if there is nothign to talk about during this game, you have to fill it with this sort of garbage.


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Cubs still favorites to win the series, but down to -115 (Indians +105)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:33 am 
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I think Francona may have made a mistake pulling Kluber from that game so early. He was thinking about Game 4 before he had won Game 1. Sure, they ended up getting the win, but I can't see how Miller could be available tonight for more than a batter or two. They've been riding him hard throughout the entire playoffs and you could see even in the last game he pitched against Toronto that he wasn't quite as sharp as he had been.

I was talking to a buddy this morning about this exact thing. Kluber was rolling there was no reason to take him out. In a dominating 6 to 0 win you should not have to load down you stud reliever. If I am an Indian fan this morning that pisses me off.

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I think Francona may have made a mistake pulling Kluber from that game so early. He was thinking about Game 4 before he had won Game 1. Sure, they ended up getting the win, but I can't see how Miller could be available tonight for more than a batter or two. They've been riding him hard throughout the entire playoffs and you could see even in the last game he pitched against Toronto that he wasn't quite as sharp as he had been.

I was talking to a buddy this morning about this exact thing. Kluber was rolling there was no reason to take him out. In a dominating 6 to 0 win you should not have to load down you stud reliever. If I am an Indian fan this morning that pisses me off.
I'm no baseball expert like IMU but doesn't it give him a better shot at pitching well three times this series?

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I agree, but that is what Francona has done so far all postseason and the Indians are 8-1. It was also only 3-0 when Kluber was pulled.

Francona is also 9-0 career in WS games managed. I doubt that improves to 12-0 this series, but that is incredibly impressive so far.

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What did he have like 80 pitches at that point? Is it worth having miller get 50 pitches??

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In addition to wanting to preserve Kluber, Francona knew Miller had been rested for six days, so I don't think it was a bad move. It looks worse due to how things played out, but I think it was the right decision.

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Andrew Miller is gonna be living in the Cubs heads so much he's going to have to sign a lease. Cubs had some chances but couldn't get over the hump, you could tell when Schwarber went up there hacking like a moron.


living in their heads, he threw almost 50 pitches in 2 innings. lol.

it sounds simple to hear "leave anything at the knees down, and anything headed outside corner to a leftie" but it's difficult to do until you've faced a pitcher a few times. I'm pessimistic by nature, but I think they'll hit Miller and the Cubs destroy pitching that's not ace level. It really surprised me to see Francona burn through two innings with Miller. The last batter before he got Kyle out, he seemed tired and like he was missing spots.
I think this will go at least 6. Maybe 7. If it goes 7 you have to figure Indians.

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If Kluber has to be on video game mode and they need 45 pitches per outing from Miller, I like the Cubs chances.

This feels like a classic 'Reading your headlines' game. Everyone was talking about the Cubs and the drought and the curse and all that bullshit. The fellas thought they could stroll in and just keep swinging the bats like it was nothing. Hell, they just made Kershaw look foolish in an elimination game. Kluber quickly showed them that Kershaw and Bumgarner weren't the only studs they have to face this October.

Miller was exactly like I thought. Cubs got to him and will eventually break thru. What will Francona do when he can't pull out his blankie for 2 innings every game?

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:lol: The Cubs did not get to Miller. There was a walk, a bloop single, and if Davis has his head up, Schwarber gets doubled off 2nd base. If the Cubs really got to Miller, they would not have been shutout. So Miller threw ~50 pitches after sitting around for 6 days. Wow. I would think he will be ready to go tonite if/when his number is called.

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I wouldn't be so quick to write off Miller. Chapman wet the bed against the Giants but still got the job done.

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:lol: The Cubs did not get to Miller. There was a walk, a bloop single, and if Davis has his head up, Schwarber gets doubled off 2nd base. If the Cubs really got to Miller, they would not have been shutout. So Miller threw ~50 pitches after sitting around for 6 days. Wow. I would think he will be ready to go tonite if/when his number is called.

I didn't say they got to him. They saw what he has. That's valuable.

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I don't think anyone expected a sweep in either direction. Well, maybe Frank, who always seems to fancy himself as having the clearest analysis of Cubs games but always an analysis that has the Cubs losing.

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I know you didn't. Hank and others have said that.

What they saw might prove valuable cof. But the Jays might have said the same thing early in their series as well. One way or another, you will get to see it play out.

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i also thought that the first 2 runs were gay. things are bouncing their way i get it but like those aren't hard work runs. then serving up 2 meatballs to that turd are the only other ways they scored. it wasn't like they were manufacturing runs in really amazing ways.


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:lol: The Cubs did not get to Miller. There was a walk, a bloop single, and if Davis has his head up, Schwarber gets doubled off 2nd base. If the Cubs really got to Miller, they would not have been shutout. So Miller threw ~50 pitches after sitting around for 6 days. Wow. I would think he will be ready to go tonite if/when his number is called.


He put himself into two separate jams and had to battle his way out of them. Tip of the cap on getting out of the trouble but he created the trouble. You watch enough baseball to see how weird it is... Eventually that swinging bunt that scored a run for the Indians in the first inning happens to the Cubs. You and America can try to piss in our Cheerios this morning but I'm truly not ready to worry.


Now if they lose game 2 tonight... :lol: :lol:

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i also thought that the first 2 runs were gay. things are bouncing their way i get it but like those aren't hard work runs. then serving up 2 meatballs to that turd are the only other ways they scored. it wasn't like they were manufacturing runs in really amazing ways.

:lol:

If it wasn't for the HBP and the swinging bunt and the 2 HR, Cubs are right in this.

You sound like Wannstedt.

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Stating the obvious, but must-win tonight to have a chance to clinch at Wrigley.

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We need Arrieta to give us 6 innings, 3 runs. He just has to suck slightly less than usual.

Bauer is a total fucking bum. If the Cubs can't hit this meathead then I don't know what to say.


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I don't think anyone expected a sweep in either direction. Well, maybe Frank, who always seems to fancy himself as having the clearest analysis of Cubs games but always an analysis that has the Cubs losing.
I said Indians in 7, Curious McGuire.

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i also thought that the first 2 runs were gay. things are bouncing their way i get it but like those aren't hard work runs. then serving up 2 meatballs to that turd are the only other ways they scored. it wasn't like they were manufacturing runs in really amazing ways.






Agreed, but if Jake ain't very good ~ great tonight. We are fucked.

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In addition to wanting to preserve Kluber, Francona knew Miller had been rested for six days, so I don't think it was a bad move. It looks worse due to how things played out, but I think it was the right decision.


This was my thinking. He had to get Miller pitches after a long lay off and another day off after tonight. I would be ok if I was a Cleveland fan with him going another 2 tonight.

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In addition to wanting to preserve Kluber, Francona knew Miller had been rested for six days, so I don't think it was a bad move. It looks worse due to how things played out, but I think it was the right decision.


This was my thinking. He had to get Miller pitches after a long lay off and another day off after tonight. I would be ok if I was a Cleveland fan with him going another 2 tonight.


He can rest when the season is over.

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The Cubs could play the Tennessee Smokies and Frank would say "I don't know, the Smokies can surprise you."

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i also thought that the first 2 runs were gay. things are bouncing their way i get it but like those aren't hard work runs. then serving up 2 meatballs to that turd are the only other ways they scored. it wasn't like they were manufacturing runs in really amazing ways.


Bernsie and more so Rozner said this last week against Dodgers. In the playoffs sometimes the difference is simply a mistake, error or just dumb luck.

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Arrieta decides whether we win or lose this series.

Two pivotal games with 2 and 6.


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Arrieta decides whether we win or lose this series.

Two pivotal games with 2 and 6.
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Not all teams that win the 1st game go one to win the series :D

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Kirkwood wrote:
Arrieta decides whether we win or lose this series.

Two pivotal games with 2 and 6.


I think you are right.

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Not all teams that win the 1st game go one to win the series :D


The three games played in LA were at the Coliseum, and attendance averaged almost 93k per game. :shock:

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