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 Post subject: Re: HBO Westworld
PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:44 pm 
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This show is great. It seems possible to me that William's friend Logan dies when he doesn't save him, and that is the "critical incident" from 30 years ago. MiB has been going there for 30 years, so that could also be more evidence that MiB = William.


Or maybe something bad is going to happen to William and MiB is actually Logan. I would find it difficult to believe William could turn into as much of a dick as MiB, but obviously MiB is some kind of respected good guy outside the park. Maybe he's a good guy in the park too and just isn't wasting time being nice to androids on the way to doing whatever he's doing.

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I think Dolores and El Lawrence get taken in and tweeked or fixed, at night, while people are sleeping and then they're back for morning.

Definitely like the uptick in naked...chicks

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I always feel terribly dim after reading 'Westworld' recaps. I always miss the metaphors. Or think they are metaphors for something else.

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Sounds like Ford confronts Logan next episode.

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I think Dolores and El Lawrence get taken in and tweeked or fixed, at night, while people are sleeping and then they're back for morning.

Definitely like the uptick in naked...chicks


I thought you'd like it for the BIG BLACK DICK


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GoldenJet wrote:
I think Dolores and El Lawrence get taken in and tweeked or fixed, at night, while people are sleeping and then they're back for morning.

Definitely like the uptick in naked...chicks


I thought you'd like it for the BIG BLACK DICK



More projection

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GoldenJet wrote:
I think Dolores and El Lawrence get taken in and tweeked or fixed, at night, while people are sleeping and then they're back for morning.

Definitely like the uptick in naked...chicks


I thought you'd like it for the BIG BLACK DICK



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So, Dolores sees a church in her visions, a steeple....possibly the same steeple (although it was burned out) that Ford travels to in one of the earlier episodes?

THUS CONFIRMING THE SPLIT TIMELINE?!?

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The transfusion that MiB gave Teddy from Lawrence was weird too.

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The transfusion that MiB gave Teddy from Lawrence was weird too.


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The transfusion that MiB gave Teddy from Lawrence was weird too.



yea they didn't really show or explain how he was going to perform a blood transfusion with a leather pouch of blood and I would assume not much else.

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If it's a split timeline it's not 30 years in the past, with Billy and Logan's timeline being the precursor to the MiB.

I do like that the loop that Delores and Billy are on with El Lazo is likely one that the MiB has experienced multiple times before and now essentially is able to fastforward through to the "end".

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Watched the episode again and the William/MiB theory is gaining steam.

MiB says to Lawrence "Nobody takes that tone with me. Maybe one time." William let Logan talk to him like a schmuck until very recently. Maybe it hardened William.

William let's loose for a moment and rag dolls Logan, and then later tells Dolores "No more pretending."

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SomeGuy wrote:
So, Dolores sees a church in her visions, a steeple....possibly the same steeple (although it was burned out) that Ford travels to in one of the earlier episodes?

THUS CONFIRMING THE SPLIT TIMELINE?!?

Ooooooookkkookookkoh my GOD!!!!!

Why don't you ask Julie DiCaro? You guys seem to be going at the same speed.

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Okay, so, I think the split timeline is real with the maze being a way out of the park which is really underground on Mars. Logan has to be Ford and this not a host. Too much evidence points to this conclusion.


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SomeGuy wrote:
So, Dolores sees a church in her visions, a steeple....possibly the same steeple (although it was burned out) that Ford travels to in one of the earlier episodes?

THUS CONFIRMING THE SPLIT TIMELINE?!?

Ooooooookkkookookkoh my GOD!!!!!


was it burned down?

I thought it was buried up to the steeple in sand, which might have happened over time.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Watched the episode again and the William/MiB theory is gaining steam.

MiB says to Lawrence "Nobody takes that tone with me. Maybe one time." William let Logan talk to him like a schmuck until very recently. Maybe it hardened William.

William let's loose for a moment and rag dolls Logan, and then later tells Dolores "No more pretending."


The story is like Angel Heart with Ford being Lucifer and William being Mickey Rourke.

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Okay, so, I think the split timeline is real with the maze being a way out of the park which is really underground on Mars. Logan has to be Ford and this not a host. Too much evidence points to this conclusion.

Maybe the park is on Uranus.

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Watched the episode again and the William/MiB theory is gaining steam.

MiB says to Lawrence "Nobody takes that tone with me. Maybe one time." William let Logan talk to him like a schmuck until very recently. Maybe it hardened William.

William let's loose for a moment and rag dolls Logan, and then later tells Dolores "No more pretending."


The story is like Angel Heart with Ford being Lucifer and William being Mickey Rourke.


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Teresa is the one smuggling data out if the park.

Elsie investigates but of course got captured whilst investigating the scary abandoned theater by herself.

Teddy and MiB try to get into Pariah but get captured by Union soldiers who recognize Teddy from his time with Wyatt. They escape and Teddy mows down the soldiers with a gatling gun. I think MiB was impressed.

Bernard finds Ford's family of first-generation hosts. Ford's dad looked like Arnold from the picture Ford showed. But maybe Bernard is actually Arnold. Who knows. And young Robert killed the dog because Arnold told him to.

The most interesting stuff was with Maeve. She keeps getting killed in order to go back and have conversations with Felix. She gets the grand tour of the Delos facility and gets caught up in her speech script. But she flips the script and gets all the knowledge. It'll be interesting to see what happens.

I didn't miss Dolores and William this week.

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Another fantastic episode, love Mauve! When she told them to max her intelligence it looked like those two guys looked at each other like, "oh man, is this how Terminator starts?"

of course, those guys could very well be robots.

as of now, aside from the park guests I'm only convinced that 3 people are definitely human, Hopkins, red head chick in charge, black chick we just met from the same company as red head chick. Everyone else is fair game although I am leaning towards human for the girl at the end who was investigating the old movie theater.


Was the dog a robot? He looked too old to be a robot unless they make old dog robots as well. Also, black guy looked very confused when he saw the dog.

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I'm not 100% sure Ford is human. I think it's possible he was Arnold's best early host, was the first one to find the maze or whatever, and used it to lead a revolt and take over the park. I don't think this is likely, but I wouldn't rule it out either.

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Maybe Ford is the one who built his house (where his family is) and built the park as a perfect maze around it.

The description of a man who keeps cheating death sounds like a host.

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Teddy and MiB try to get into Pariah but get captured by Union soldiers who recognize Teddy from his time with Wyatt. They escape and Teddy mows down the soldiers with a gatling gun. I think MiB was impressed.

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What I don't understand is how the Union soldiers recognize Teddy from his past when that past was only recently invented by Ford? Did he just wait till all those Union soldiers eventually made their way in for repairs and then insert the new history in their heads one by one? Maybe that's why only a couple soldiers recognized him?

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I wonder if once they roll out an update like that, all affected characters would be updated too.

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I wonder if once they roll out an update like that, all affected characters would be updated too.


i think mainly this. Part of the "re-purposing" that they mention to Maeve. Also delores' original father host being another character years ago. once they roll out a storyline, its just a matter of choosing which characters to use in that storyline. so, for that matter, if it wasnt teddy that had been chosen by Ford, they likely would have recognized whomever MIB had discovered as important to have tagging along for the Wyatt hunt story.

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Bernard has got to be a robot. I think in the first episode one of the people in the lab comments to Bernard that he doesn't have a kid at home. Which is a very odd thing to say to a person whose kid died from some unknown ailment.

Also Bernard's kid's tragic death seems like an awfully contrived backstory. Oh and his dead son looks suspiciously similar to the kid who told Delores that she wasn't real.

Dude is totally a robot.



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I think Jeffrey Wright might be a robot.


I think he is for sure. Hopkins says something about knowing how he thinks. And then the woman in bed talks about the way the robots talk that seemed to allude to it in some way. I have to watch it again.



Well, if we are going to start patting ourselves on the back, JORR and I had this from the jump.

It wasn't much of a reveal. That last scene was brutal, though. That's just terrifying.

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