I went into this prepared to be disappointed because the majority was raving about it and the majority has no taste

Great show. Fantastic casting from top to bottom except for tj (can't cast a guy with a lisp for a fast paced role that demands clear annunciation). I'm not a rap fan for the most part but I thought the rap battles between ah and tj moderated by gw were the best moments of the show

Hamilton takes its place in the pantheon of musicals. I don't throw this superlative around easily but there is genius in the creativity of this work

It has some adult themes and language so it might not be proper for all but it is for
Most

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Wife saw it last week said it was phenomenal .

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

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How much you pay for those tix? They were at 500 a piece when I looked.

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As a guy who was into musical theatre in high school, I think it's good that there's a show for people to talk about that isn't just [Band]: The Musical, but the fandom of this show suuuuuuuucks.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2016/07/ ... ur-country

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Wow, the author went in really hard. Nice find CH.

I'm going next week, but I have to admit my impression is that it's quite like Schoolhouse Rock rather than some great innovation in musical theater.

One of the things getting attention is the specific casting of minorities as actual historic white men. I've actually heard people complain about that which misses the point entirely. In any case, even if one ignores the very calculated and important decision in casting the play, it's acting. The whole basis of acting is that one is portraying someone else. I just saw the play Red Velvet about a black man performing Shakespeare and the outrage that caused in the English theater. Ironically, one of the complaints about an actual black man portraying the Moor was that it wasn't really "acting" at all.

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I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I saw the show first so you can suck my fucking dick.

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I think the complaint is that black men are being cast in "white" roles while black roles hardly exist in a play about famous slaveholders.

And yeah, it's basically Schoolhouse Rock + 1776, which I was into in high school. Respectful-LEE!

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You guys are into musicals.

I was in the pit orchestra for Anything Goes and Crazy for You. I also have an affinity for Great American Songbook-type stuff; it was a fine period of American culture. No shame in my game.

I'm aware it all sounds gay. You know, sometimes I think about those guys who tell coming-out stories that are like "I grew up in the Midwest. My parents were simple people. Very simple people. I thought they would be so intolerant. But when I came out to them, my mom said 'oh, Matthew...we always knew.'" And once they're done basically calling their own parents rubes, the idea is supposed to be that even people between the coasts can be surprisingly tolerant, but all I ever take away from those stories is like, man, you must have been the fuckin' gayest kid of all time if your culturally impoverished parents figured it out that early and just totally conceded the point. Like, what could you have possibly been doing, singing Liza Minnelli in gym class?

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What pit orchestra?

I had a great Math teacher in grade school that doubled as a music teacher. We had to do a couple reports in 8th grade and one of them was a comparison of West Side Story to Romeo and Juliet. I freaking love West side Story to this day. Oliver! too. I think about her all the time, I had her sing at my wedding. She gave us an ornament as a wedding gift and I think of her when we decorate the tree. Anyway, my husband took me to see west side story a few years ago and I about had a stroke when I realized what the night cost us.

I'd like to go see this. It will be "rerun" no?

Bronx Tale is on Broadway. My husband wants to go. I'm tempted but have a hard time pulling the trigger. I can't decide.

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Is that Ross on stage?

When my sister "came out" it was like this big deal where she told my mom, "There are things you don't know about me!" My mom said, "Like what?" and my sister answered, "I'm gay." My mom looked at her like she was out of her mind and said, "Well, DUH!"

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I think West Side Story/Romeo and Juliet must have been some standard required curriculum in Illinois schools. I'm at least ten years older than you and we studied the same thing in seventh or eighth grade with the little paperback that had both plays in it.

I think Oliver! might have been the second movie I actually saw in a theater. I know the first was The Green Berets with John Wayne. Both movies made a huge impression on my youthful mind. I can still see Jim Hutton impaled on that Viet Cong booby trap. And my entire life I have attempted to model myself after the Artful Dodger.

Don't be so parsimonious, Spaulding. Splurge on those A Bronx Tale tickets. And make sure you pass the Sonny test when your husband opens your car door.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Musicals are pretty good.

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You should email that to Dan and explain to him that's how you throw cold water on a cultural phenomenon.

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You get the wrong impression.

First of all, Schoolhouse Rock as a Saturday morning cartoon, was an innovation. The play was just a compilation of the songs and a re enactment of the cartoon.

This is original work.

I'm not some highly attuned musical critic. Watch it, see what you think and then we can discuss. We should have a musicals club.

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invalid criticism

That's like complaining about the Sistine Chapel because God is portrayed as some buffed old caring man rather than the vengeful person of the OT.

Anyway, the casting might have been of interest two years ago when the play was first performed but it really has no impact on the play as a whole. It's the equivalent of producing Macbeth with WWII as a backround.

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That guy seemed to be upset about something and used Hamilton as a vehicle.

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Musicals from the 70s were better!

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Not a movie, not a tv show so GTFO with this snobby bullshit.

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why is it snobby?

I sat next to a woman from Green Bay at the show I attended.

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she comes from a place called Titletown, seems pretty snobby to me.

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Musicals of this nature are the very opposite of snobby. They are populist entertainment. You want to see snobby? Go to a Theater Oobleck play.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Yeah. Some musicals people dress like they are attending a wedding south of I80.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I used to attend the Court Theater when I was first married. We were young so we could get away with underdressed look but that crowd was packed with turtlenecks and tweed jackets with elbow patches.

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