The Marlins always do well

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I think the Red Sox will be at least as equally interested, if not more.

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Once you wait for the prospect to demonstrate he's an MVP talent superior in value to the target that'll happen. Can't sit around twiddlin thumbs

Levine on with Spiegs and whoever floated Sale and Abreu to the red Sox for SIX players.

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Which Marlins trade?

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They have 6 winning seasons in their entire history.

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They get great assets in return after every WS fire sale. The 1997 haul helped them win in 2003.

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After every WS.

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Those had better be some awesome players, some of whom are pitchers and some who can play at the MLB level on opening day 2017

If that is the route they are going, I think you get more by selling off the pieces individually

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I was working on something when he said it. Seemed like he was talking top prospects. I am not sure though if he was just dreaming shit up though.

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If they trade Sale and Abreu, there is zero reason to keep Frazier. He should be able to bring in something nice.

2017 would be some kind of shitty season under that scenario.

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There is no way they trade a young player who is being paid below market value. Sale, Abreu or Q.

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If Sale and Abreu are gone then (after Frazier) dump: Melky, Robertson, Jones.

Consider dumping Eaton and Quintana.

Funning thing is that this would have been frowned upon for the last hundred years. Now tanking is not only honorable but encouraged. #theplan

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Baseball has changed. Half of baseball is tanking to be like the Cubs.

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I think the Sox can gain little just by getting rid of Eaton, Quintana, Abreu and Sale. They're all infected with losing and just by getting rid of them the Sox at least gain a prayer of getting some winning leadership back in the clubhouse. What happened in Arlington and how it ended the season says all that needs to be said of them, particularly Sale and Eaton.

Now whatever outside the lines gain the Sox get from ridding themselves of those guys is offset 20 times by the fact that inside the lines all of them are really good. Sale is a petulant little shit, but he's a top 5 pitcher in the game and his numbers wont be replaced by Urias, Giolito or whatever other hyped up arm they could get in return. Quintana and Eaton are more replaceable, but are still elite-ish if not elite players. Abreu who knows, Sox will probably wind up keeping him because nobody wants him...he wasn't even that bad in 2016 but he's got a bad perception around the league.

HERE'S THE POINT

If the Sox get the right returns for those 3, plus rid themselves of the outright dogshit like Robertson for salary relief they may actually have a contending squad for 2017. A new manager might help with the culture change too, and after slashing all that payroll they'll be able to get a free agent or two. For Sale, you hope to get one guy who has done something at the major league level plus another who is highly touted and ready to debut and then a slew of other useful pieces, Quintana a step back from that Sale deal and Eaton can probably get more in return than Quintana because of his contract and age.

The returns the Sox could get for Eaton, Sale and Quintana ALONE are good enough to make an all out tanking unnecessary. They could have a talented lineup with a good mix of veterans and young players plus a top 10 farm system with serious depth of both position players and pitchers by Opening Day. No losing 90 games for 3 straight years to accumulate draft picks and selling anyone with a pulse at the deadline...just one winter of selling and they're right back at it.

Sox could have a nasty young bullpen with Burdi, Fullmer, Danish, Jones and Robertson. In 2-3 years that could be Royals-esque.

Maybe steal a page from the Royals and plan to blow your load for a two-year window in the last two years of Sale's contract in 2018-2019?

They already tried that according to Ruffcorn

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In 2-3 years, Robertson will be dead.

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I think it is still frowned upon.

However, I don't know if you would call this tanking as I expect they would get MLB ready level players in return.

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Getting MLB ready players back is why you don't dump Frazier. He is cheap and fine.

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They wouldn't be slashing much salary by moving any of those guys. The guys who have the big contracts are the guys not performing.

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Frazier ain't that cheap and he's not great, he's like your closer...he's okay but but extremely overpaid.

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Fullmer throws nothing but meatballs, he's never going to amount to dick.

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I said a year ago, that the Sox should trade Sale, Cabrerra, Eaton and Quintana and not sign any free agents and build from the minor leagues, but instead they trade for Frazier and a couple 2nd rate catchers and hope for better years from players that had disappointed the previous couple seasons. They got a huge break when La Roche retired, but then used the money on James Shields who proved to be yet another disappointment. They cannot contend with the crap they have in a division that includes K.C. and Cleveland. Better to retool now and have a really good group of young players, who may be able to contend in a few years......when they move to Las Vegas.

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I like your angle!

Well, cross him off then...

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http://www.espn.com/blog/sweetspot/post ... every-team

Yeah, no thanks.

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Out of his fucking mind.

But you know what, he's not the only one. It sounds like Atlanta has made Dansby Swanson (DANSBY SWANSON) untouchable for Chris Sale, which is also insane. If there ever was a candidate to be looked back on 3 years from now and wondered "wow, you could've gotten 27 year old Chris Sale for THAT" its Dansby fucking Swanson.

Eventually Dombrowski in Boston is going to get wind of this insanity and blow it all open to get Sale. He's not going to stand idly by and watch dogshit Atlanta start using the word "untouchable" to describe any one part of their mountain of garbage and still manages to acquire Sale.

From MLB.com Columnist
Anthony Castrovince

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More Sale chatter: http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/chri ... ves-112816

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