He is in California right now, his name is Gavin.

The people who decided this election hated both Democrats and Republicans. We have a president elect who isn't a Republican nor a Democrat. Again in hindsight, this was the year of the outsider. Clinton supporters would have absolutely voted for Sanders in a general election against Trump. And Clinton haters on the fence about Trump could have plausibly voted for Sanders given his stances on trade.

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Bernie was/is for the working class, Hilary was not, and Trump made the middle class believe he was.

Bernie was a non-starter because his whole campaign would have been portrayed as "government handouts" and "huge tax increases".

Trump would have matched Bernie on trade.

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Bernie was for the poor. Almost all of his policies helped them much more than they helped the middle class.

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Charles Krauthammer mentioned last night that the real story here is being missed. The U.S. no longer has a conservative party. The GOP is now a populist party. Trump is not a conservative by any means. In his victory speech he almost sounded like he was going to restart the WPA.

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Hillary becomes the 3rd women to lose a national election.

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Remember her?

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As a middle class citizen, the college tuition issue was big for me. I have 2 little ones, and at this moment college is almost not worth the loans you have to take out vs what you are going to make.

One quibble I have with that is I wouldn't limit populism to the GOP. If the Democrats produced a populist candidate then defacto independents (I.e. frustrated Republicans or Democrats) would have also voted for that person.

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Get rid of the Super PACs!

The problem is that his plan either:
1) Devalues college to the point where it is simply 4 more years of high school and it requires even more study after that.
2) Requires entrance exams and limited enrollment like many of the "free college" countries do.

He would have been hammered on that and he would have no real answer.

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If the Dems would have ran a corpse it would have won.

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Let me give you an example:

My wifes cousin is about to go to college in Boston. The degree plus room and board is almost $70k per year x 4 yrs = $280k for a fucking Bachelors degree! And you are worried about devaluing college! Comeon

Again, we just had a candidate with no real answer to anything win it all. This wasn't a year for arcane policy discussions. It was about perceptions and messaging.

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Why go there then?

Rolls Royce are expensive cars. You don't have to buy one though.

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It is not about why go there, that is an example of what is there. Not Harvard or Yale or Notre Dame. College is fucking expensive. There is a reason Millennials are living at home longer. Even at $20k a year, that is $80K right out of college. That is like a mortgage payment.

$80k is a choice.

$20k is more normal. That is expensive.

However, "free college" just pushes everyone to advanced degrees which then cost money and you have 4 years less of earning years while you also still have to pay for other expenses.

The financial aid system needs reform. It pumps up the cost of college with no real value added.

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Rick, the election of Trump shows this wasn't anything about policy. Trump channeled the feelings of a lot of people. They were going to vote for him no matter what he said or did.

Joe Biden is much more likable than Hillary, Trump, or Bernie.

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$20k a year is still ridiculous. The goal should be to be more educated at a country. Not for the rich or upper middle class.

She should go to a cheaper college.

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Elections have consequences.

Glad we agree this wasn't about policies then!

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So we can blame Biden's kid that died of cancer for all this.

Like I said, it is not about that. I am not claiming the top most expensive colleges are the normal. I am saying the cost for college for an 18yr to start and 21-22yr old to come out with a mortgage payment with the possibility of not having a high paying job to move out, is crazy.

It is not Boston College either.

As a liberal (Hi, denis), I can't argue this.

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Yes. This is the story. They better look inward.

Let's hope that a real progressive is the candidate in 2020. Not another fake progressive like Obama or Hillary.

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Bernstein vibe.

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