This is not a good day. However, the "racist" angle is overblown. Trump actually did much better than Romney with minorities. He still lost to those groups because he is a Republican but it looks like Trump may have won on that very fact.

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Minorities didn't push Trump over the top. Let's not push bullshit

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GO BEARS!!!

Who would've guessed 24 hours ago that the people protesting and chanting "Not my President" wouldn't be Republicans?

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Check the numbers. They voted in less numbers and in a higher percentage for Trump than they did for Romney.

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The dramatic increase in white voters is why Trump won. It's really that simple.

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I'll wait until the numbers are put into a easily digestible format but it sounds like Hillary wins if she gets the exact same turnout and percentage that Obama got in 2012.

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I am seeing the same numbers Brick is. You can't deny that black voters came out twice as much for Trump than Romney. It is indisputable. Maybe solely due to his celebrity but they did vote for him more than Mitt.

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You can just look at the map of the places he won. They were showing it all night. There was a dramatic increase in rural voters and he flipped white suburban areas that Obama dominated twice. The city vote was practically the same.

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GO BEARS!!!

You definitely voted for Gary Johnson.

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

Hillary Clinton will also win the popular vote. As a career politician she will not view the system as rigged nor will she call for an overhaul of the electoral college. She will simply concede defeat because she is a system politician. Her supporters will do the same. Refreshing.

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As I said, from what I saw on CNN I think, the turnout was lower and Trump did like 8 points better with non-whites than Romney did.

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Not according to what I heard on the radion this morning. WBBM had a report that said Black voters were 93% for Obama, 88% for HRC. Hispanics were 76% for Obama, and 68% for HRC.

The dropoff in minority support seems to be the reason why Trump won. It really is that simple.

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A terrible fucking candidate is why this happened.

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Black turnout was significantly lower for her also. She couldn't or probably didn't try to make the connection. There are a lot of people that are either apathetic or simply don't like her. Blacks never felt the same way about her that they have felt about Bill. Not even close. They accepted her but they never advocated for her.

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A terrible fucking country is why this happened. Once again I provide for you the prophetic words of one:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w ... kpq7vmhj2w

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You could also suggest that, you know, people just don't objectively like her.

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Haha. It's tough when someone fights the good fight for so long to accept a losing outcome.

Hopefully he'll give in to Darkside, and next year's Lakemoor fest will reach a new high.

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LTG, you're doing the same thing that the elites are, missing the reasons behind Trump's support. I certainly don't understand it well, the Brits did not see it coming, and the French have theirs with the National Front.

People are disgusted with the system. Trump is the result.

The country's not terrible. The political class is.

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That is true. You know what though as much as people want to make this about her this is a vote for the policies and beliefs of Donald Trump.

Let's not obfuscate anymore. He beat out 16 people before he ever got to her. This was a vote for him too. He has a base of support that buys the bullshit that he is selling.

People can ease their conscious if they choose but this country wanted that racist xenophobic motherfucker and now we got him.

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No, the country wanted someone outside the political class. He is a terrible alternative because he comes from a part of society that co opts the political class.

But that is the reason he has support, people saw him as an outsider.

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Dennis, LTG will not be swayed. People hated Washington and they hated HRC more.

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I heard a throwaway line last night that I think was telling. The discussion was why the candidates ignored Michigan (Flint in particular). The prevailing view was that they didn't want to politicize it?!?

No one wanted to have the hard conversation about how to help a group fucked by politics and gutless politicians. No one, including Obama, wanted to help and take a political risk. Like I feared about him 8 years ago. And now we've left it to a buffoon and his merry band of bigots and liars.

Obama's lack of fortitude in the face of opposition, the republicans Southern strategy and the media's complicity in all of this is tarring all of us. But hopefully Pres. Trump has bullshitted the amorals in the "exurbs" and rural areas.

Can we have the conversation about how some don't want college education for all again? The worst among us agree with that.

I am sick.

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Thanks Obama

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I think it's somewhat difficult to argue that people voted for Trump's ideas when he campaigned both to the left and right of Clinton simultaneously. He was both more AND less militaristic than Clinton in espousing a foreign policy, and more AND less of a free-market zealot in his economic policy. Nevertheless, he did articulate two consistent positions throughout the campaign--his opposition to NAFTA (and other corporate free trade deals) and his support for massive new immigration restrictions. To a large degree, then, I think Clinton's defeat was sealed by her support for the neoliberal free trade regime. I have been arguing this point for months, and I think it's clear that Trump could not have performed as well as he did in the Rust Belt without his blistering assault on Clinton's support for NAFTA, CAFTA, TPP, etc.

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he galvanized them, and they actually came out to vote....

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It's not just Obama who you are describing here, though. It's most of the Democratic party as it has been redefined by the Clintons beginning with their leadership of the DLC in the 80s.

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I think a lot of Hillary supporters were blind to all the flaws of their candidate because they found Trump so vile. I'd put my wife in that category. But people who weren't predisposed to back Clinton saw it differently.

I just spoke to the Pakistani Muslim where I buy my newspapers. The edition of the Sun-Times he had was too early to declare a winner. He didn't know who won. When I told him he said, "This guy. He says all kinds of crazy stuff about groups of people. I couldn't vote for him. But her, with her e-mails and other stuff. 'Oh, it was a mistake.' There's too many mistakes. I couldn't vote for her either." I think a lot of people felt that way.

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Wow.






JORR speaks to Muslims.

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percentage wise but not in volume

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