As opposed to building a wall and banning Muslims? That's a good plan?

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Agreed.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Correct. Rick, you are making an argument about policy when the guy who got elected last night doesn't have any policy. You hate Bernie. Most liked him. Look at Conservatives on this very site. Even Panther said he would have voted for Bernie. Sanders would have beaten Trump. He stood for the same "FU" to the system, but he was also respected and likeable by a larger swath of people.

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PM and LYK got Vegan on ignore. It's started all ready...

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Let's build a wall around veganfan21, and then deport said wall!

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I don't remember half the time if I'm hiding or I'm lost

This is like saying the Red Sox would have beaten the Cubs.

Bernie lost in an earlier round and she didn't even campaign against his ideas or him.

"Government handouts", "huge taxes", "socialism" = blowout.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

What if Bernie's running mate was Andrew Miller?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

It's amazing to me that you still view this through a Left-Right lens.

Please answer this question: Why do you think Donald Trump won?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

It was part celebrity, part fear, and part connecting with voters who felt they had no voice, along with Hillary being horrible.

However, Bernie lost by a significant margin to Hillary. Bernie couldn't even attract Democrats to his side. I doubt he fares better with Republicans who were willing to vote for a guy like Trump.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

He didn't win because he's a celebrity. He may have partially won due to fear, but he absolutely won because he connected with voters who had no voice and Hillary is horrible. The last two are distinct advantages of Sanders over Clinton.

Also, your last sentence is just how you feel, Hawg. It is based solely on your gut "feel." There is both data and anecdotal evidence that it is false.

Hillary beat Sanders among Democratic primary voters (with the help of the DNC, a fundraising advantage, and an infrastructure disadvantage). I can promise you that Democratic primary voters didn't lose Hillary the general election yesterday.

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He certainly won in part because he was a celebrity.

So why do you think the Trump voters would switch to Bernie? Bernie's policies will scare them much more than Hillary Clintons.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

First, it wouldn't be Trump voters "switching" to Bernie. They would have had the option of Sanders from the start. The disenfranchised who are fed up with the Establishment would have had an option that is also perceived as non-Establishment from the beginning.

Everyone pretty much agrees (and exit polls show) that Trump won on the economy, stupid! Funny since Sanders was criticized by MANY as a single-issue candidate (the economy, stupid!). Sanders wasn't playing identity politics, and he in fact refused to.

Lastly, you can't cite policies. No one voted on policies in this election, unless it was because of the free trade policies of Clinton in the past. This was a vote against the establishment. People would have said the same thing about Sanders that many are saying about Trump, except, I believe there would be more of them ("He can't change things that much. I just want change and someone who brings a voice to us.")

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In the primaries though they were with Trump too. They could have gone and voted for Bernie.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

He won because Hillary is a crook and because although he is very rich he connected with the voters. What people seem to forget is that a Republican has to win almost the entire country because New York, Illinois and California are in the bag for the Democrats every time. There are 95 million people out of work in the United States. The fact that Trump connects with people who are fed up with Obama and Washington is one of the reason why he won. Also the black vote and the Millennials did not turn out for Clinton as they did for Obama.

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God is the uncaused cause of the universe. He had no beginning and has no end. He is not bound by the laws of the universe he created.

Thank you. Now could you please relate that to the conversation we are having in this thread?

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What?

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Americans don't blame inward, they blame outward. Japan and to a lesser extent the UK are shame over blame, but us? Everything is always someone else's fault.

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Nobody on ignore, vegan

Bernie, Biden, or Warren would all win Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa, and Pennsylvania over Trump.

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would you estimate it more at 395 million ?

The thing I will find interesting going forward is the phony ass leftists who will once again pretend to be anti-war and anti-big government now that their guy or gal is no longer in charge.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Why, did he say something?

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Uh...the anti-big government phonies are on the Right.

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Not when Bush was in charge. Short memory?

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

That includes all the people who are not in the workforce and includes those on social problems such as unemployment, disability and welfare.

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God is the uncaused cause of the universe. He had no beginning and has no end. He is not bound by the laws of the universe he created.

It also includes 16 year olds, retirees and the military as people that are "out of work."

No one with any intelligence puts any weight into it. Case in point.

Also, please know that God despises you.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Gotta love those Bible-thumping Trump supporters. Not hypocritical at all.

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Trump is fine.

Seacrest has broken all of Ten Commandments and God still loves him. The Donald has probably broken only 8 or 9.

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He loves you too.

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