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I may be beating a dead horse here but I feel I need to share my opinion with my CF friends.

First of all I am shocked and ashamed that in 2016 there are still so many poorly educated and racist people in this great country I love.
During the election President elect Trump insulted the Pope, Hispanics, blacks, women, handicapped people, "poorly educated" and Muslims ect... I personally am not a Clinton supporter, I was a Bernie Bro so this is not coming from a angry person from the dem party. I personally judge people by their personalities rather then their skin color. This election clearly reflects that after all these years there is a fear and distrust of people of different ethnicities and religions. In my opinion it is a clear and present issue that needs to be corrected in a stern and educated way.

Even if I don't agree with President Trump's views and opinions I WILL SUPPORT OUR LEADER and will not complain about every little move he makes (for the next 4 years like some nut cases on the radio) . I am a proud American and the citizens have spoken and made a choice. if we don't stand together the fabric and unity of this country will be segregated and obstructive.

The people have spoken and I have heard them loud and clear.

So I guess my DBOTW is blatant racist who proudly voted not on policy or experience but blind hate and disregard of people of a different religion or race.

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 Post subject: Re: President Trump
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Linderman Edgewater wrote:
I may be beating a dead horse here but I feel I need to share my opinion with my CF friends.

First of all I am shocked and ashamed that in 2016 there are still so many poorly educated and racist people in this great country I love.
During the election President elect Trump insulted the Pope, Hispanics, blacks, women, handicapped people, "poorly educated" and Muslims ect... I personally am not a Clinton supporter, I was a Bernie Bro so this is not coming from a angry person from the dem party. I personally judge people by their personalities rather then their skin color. This election clearly reflects that after all these years there is a fear and distrust of people of different ethnicities and religions. In my opinion it is a clear and present issue that needs to be corrected in a stern and educated way.

Even if I don't agree with President Trump's views and opinions I WILL SUPPORT OUR LEADER and will not complain about every little move he makes (for the next 4 years like some nut cases on the radio) . I am a proud American and the citizens have spoken and made a choice. if we don't stand together the fabric and unity of this country will be segregated and obstructive.

The people have spoken and I have heard them loud and clear.

So I guess my DBOTW is blatant racist who proudly voted not on policy or experience but blind hate and disregard of people of a different religion or race.

Linderman (not a mult) Edgewater.

it was more about class, immigration to a country which needs jobs, and sending a message to entitled pols. maybe race was the fourth factor. but race is never an issue in itself.

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 Post subject: Re: President Trump
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it is sad that poor people vote for wealthy people because they would like that lifestyle themselves

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 Post subject: Re: President Trump
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it is sad that poor people vote for wealthy people because they would like that lifestyle themselves

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 Post subject: Re: President Trump
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it is sad that poor people vote for wealthy people because they would like that lifestyle themselves


Who are you talking about here? I don't know the demographics that vote. Poor republicans vote for wealthy people because they would like that lifestyle themselves? Poor Democrats vote for wealthy people that say they will help but have no intention of doing so and only help their wealthy friends?

I agree it's sad that we're all getting poorer and voting for the wealthy that don't care.


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 Post subject: Re: President Trump
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If he does what he said we will have problems with Mexico, let Russia do what they want in Europe, Piss of china by bringing jobs back here which will make every thing cost more. The reason everything we buy is so cheap is because the Chinese pay their workers nothing. If you bring all those jobs back everything will double in price. Not to mention pulling out of NATO and telling Japan and South Korea to piss off. His buddy Putin will have his way and play him like a fiddle while we lose all our allies in the middle east and Europe.

The man is a loose cannon and lets his ego get in the way of his judgment.

But like I said I will support whoever is the Master In Chief because there's no point in pissing and moaning about it. The people have spoken


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If he does what he said we will have problems with Mexico, let Russia do what they want in Europe, Piss of china by bringing jobs back here which will make every thing cost more. The reason everything we buy is so cheap is because the Chinese pay their workers nothing. If you bring all those jobs back everything will double in price. Not to mention pulling out of NATO and telling Japan and North Korea to piss off. His buddy Putin will have his way and play him like a fiddle

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The reason everything we buy is so cheap is because the Chinese pay their workers nothing. If you bring all those jobs back everything will double in price.


Are you really supporting slave labor because you like cheap smartphones?

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 Post subject: Re: President Trump
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Linderman Edgewater wrote:
The reason everything we buy is so cheap is because the Chinese pay their workers nothing. If you bring all those jobs back everything will double in price.


Are you really supporting slave labor because you like cheap smartphones?


You gotta have the newest iphone in Edgewater brah and cross fit memberships and rent ain't cheap

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You do know what he said about NATO right? He said that the USA should not be putting up all the money as per the charter, that none of the countries in NATO except the USA meets the required manpower and spending levels. He said if the other members don't want to pull their fair share then why should we? Same with Japan,we have a treaty with them,actually a mutual defense pact. They have never meet the spending levels, once again Trump questions why they should not pay to defend themselves, why should the USA pay all this money to defend everyone else when they wont do it for themselves. Once again ,we need to take care of ourselves first.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Linderman Edgewater wrote:
The reason everything we buy is so cheap is because the Chinese pay their workers nothing. If you bring all those jobs back everything will double in price.


Are you really supporting slave labor because you like cheap smartphones?



When was the last time you bought a cell phone JORR? they cost abbot $5hundo. Btw, slave labor is their policy not ours.


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 Post subject: Re: President Trump
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Linderman Edgewater wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Linderman Edgewater wrote:
The reason everything we buy is so cheap is because the Chinese pay their workers nothing. If you bring all those jobs back everything will double in price.


Are you really supporting slave labor because you like cheap smartphones?



When was the last time you bought a cell phone JORR? they cost abbot $5hundo. Btw, slave labor is their policy not ours.



I recommend buying a Fairphone. Manufactured without conflict minerals or slave labor. Or you can use your slave-made iPhone to tweet your social justice agenda. The choice is yours!

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 Post subject: Re: President Trump
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Linderman Edgewater wrote:
If he does what he said we will have problems with Mexico, let Russia do what they want in Europe, Piss of china by bringing jobs back here which will make every thing cost more. The reason everything we buy is so cheap is because the Chinese pay their workers nothing. If you bring all those jobs back everything will double in price. Not to mention pulling out of NATO and telling Japan and North Korea to piss off. His buddy Putin will have his way and play him like a fiddle while we lose all our allies in the middle east and Europe.

The man is a loose cannon and lets his ego get in the way of his judgment.

But like I said I will support whoever is the Master In Chief because there's no point in pissing and moaning about it. The people have spoken



Thanks for addressing the NAFTA issue. Yeah we are outraged about the jobs being shipped out. Wait til we pay higher taxes and prices for consumer goods once they come back. Not to mention the hefty marker that China is surely to call in once we stop paying for their cheap goods and labor. Yeah that marker which helped a number of wealthy people stay afloat. Did we also mention that Trump owes 550 million to the bank of China too. Yeah he is just the guy to get tough with their asses.

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 Post subject: Re: President Trump
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Linderman Edgewater wrote:
The reason everything we buy is so cheap is because the Chinese pay their workers nothing. If you bring all those jobs back everything will double in price.


Are you really supporting slave labor because you like cheap smartphones?


Honest question: do you think America can stop economic globalization through economic policies such as tariffs? Or do you think that globalization is inevitable?

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 Post subject: Re: President Trump
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You do know what he said about NATO right? He said that the USA should not be putting up all the money as per the charter, that none of the countries in NATO except the USA meets the required manpower and spending levels. He said if the other members don't want to pull their fair share then why should we? Same with Japan,we have a treaty with them,actually a mutual defense pact. They have never meet the spending levels, once again Trump questions why they should not pay to defend themselves, why should the USA pay all this money to defend everyone else when they wont do it for themselves. Once again ,we need to take care of ourselves first.



Because we are the biggest economy in the world, why? Because we defend our allies across the planet. What good would it do to pull out of S. Korea and Japan? China and Russia would overwhelm them and we would lose our defensive positions in that area. Not to mention N. Korea would feel free to nuke the shit out of Soul S. Korea. Then theirs the Baltics and Poland where we have defensive positions.

Those country's depend on us and we have the money, interest and privilege to defend them. The money Trump wants is peanuts compared to what they alow us to do.

Much respect Linderman


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 Post subject: Re: President Trump
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Linderman Edgewater wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Linderman Edgewater wrote:
The reason everything we buy is so cheap is because the Chinese pay their workers nothing. If you bring all those jobs back everything will double in price.


Are you really supporting slave labor because you like cheap smartphones?



When was the last time you bought a cell phone JORR? they cost abbot $5hundo. Btw, slave labor is their policy not ours.



I recommend buying a Fairphone. Manufactured without conflict minerals or slave labor. Or you can use your slave-made iPhone to tweet your social justice agenda. The choice is yours!



I have no "social justice agenda" JORR. Just expressing my opinion. Like I said, what the Chinese decide to pay their people is none of Americas concern.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Linderman Edgewater wrote:
The reason everything we buy is so cheap is because the Chinese pay their workers nothing. If you bring all those jobs back everything will double in price.


Are you really supporting slave labor because you like cheap smartphones?


Honest question: do you think America can stop economic globalization through economic policies such as tariffs? Or do you think that globalization is inevitable?


Honestly, that's beyond my scope. Anything I said would just be piping and another bullshit opinion without requisite knowledge behind it. But I do think we can make attempts to be as moral as possible and most of us would be willing to pay a little more for products made without child/slave labor.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Linderman Edgewater wrote:
The reason everything we buy is so cheap is because the Chinese pay their workers nothing. If you bring all those jobs back everything will double in price.


Are you really supporting slave labor because you like cheap smartphones?


Honest question: do you think America can stop economic globalization through economic policies such as tariffs? Or do you think that globalization is inevitable?


Honestly, that's beyond my scope. Anything I said would just be piping and another bullshit opinion without requisite knowledge behind it. But I do think we can make attempts to be as moral as possible and most of us would be willing to pay a little more for products made without child/slave labor.


I created a thread because I think it's an interesting discussion.

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leashyourkids wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Linderman Edgewater wrote:
The reason everything we buy is so cheap is because the Chinese pay their workers nothing. If you bring all those jobs back everything will double in price.


Are you really supporting slave labor because you like cheap smartphones?


Honest question: do you think America can stop economic globalization through economic policies such as tariffs? Or do you think that globalization is inevitable?


Honestly, that's beyond my scope. Anything I said would just be piping and another bullshit opinion without requisite knowledge behind it. But I do think we can make attempts to be as moral as possible and most of us would be willing to pay a little more for products made without child/slave labor.


Funny thing is that that's exactly the public position Wal-Mart took back in the late 80's. Until the "corporate good" trumped it.

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leashyourkids wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Linderman Edgewater wrote:
The reason everything we buy is so cheap is because the Chinese pay their workers nothing. If you bring all those jobs back everything will double in price.


Are you really supporting slave labor because you like cheap smartphones?


Honest question: do you think America can stop economic globalization through economic policies such as tariffs? Or do you think that globalization is inevitable?


Honestly, that's beyond my scope. Anything I said would just be piping and another bullshit opinion without requisite knowledge behind it. But I do think we can make attempts to be as moral as possible and most of us would be willing to pay a little more for products made without child/slave labor.


I created a thread because I think it's an interesting discussion.



I think globalization was and is inevitable. If we ever practiced widespread protectionism think about the backlash itd get. Shit people have complained about not being allowed to have their "Cubans" for decades. Think about what would happen if were expanded to include every consumer good known to man

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You do know what he said about NATO right? He said that the USA should not be putting up all the money as per the charter, that none of the countries in NATO except the USA meets the required manpower and spending levels. He said if the other members don't want to pull their fair share then why should we? Same with Japan,we have a treaty with them,actually a mutual defense pact. They have never meet the spending levels, once again Trump questions why they should not pay to defend themselves, why should the USA pay all this money to defend everyone else when they wont do it for themselves. Once again ,we need to take care of ourselves first.



You are the same guy who bitches about Obama pissing all over our allies. What a hypocrite.

Why don't you just admit that you voted for Trump?

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You do know what he said about NATO right? He said that the USA should not be putting up all the money as per the charter, that none of the countries in NATO except the USA meets the required manpower and spending levels. He said if the other members don't want to pull their fair share then why should we? Same with Japan,we have a treaty with them,actually a mutual defense pact. They have never meet the spending levels, once again Trump questions why they should not pay to defend themselves, why should the USA pay all this money to defend everyone else when they wont do it for themselves. Once again ,we need to take care of ourselves first.



You are the same guy who bitches about Obama pissing all over our allies. What a hypocrite.

Why don't you just admit that you voted for Trump?

Admit it? Like it's a crime or something?

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You do know what he said about NATO right? He said that the USA should not be putting up all the money as per the charter, that none of the countries in NATO except the USA meets the required manpower and spending levels. He said if the other members don't want to pull their fair share then why should we? Same with Japan,we have a treaty with them,actually a mutual defense pact. They have never meet the spending levels, once again Trump questions why they should not pay to defend themselves, why should the USA pay all this money to defend everyone else when they wont do it for themselves. Once again ,we need to take care of ourselves first.



You are the same guy who bitches about Obama pissing all over our allies. What a hypocrite.

Why don't you just admit that you voted for Trump?

Admit it? Like it's a crime or something?

There seem to be a lot of Trump supporters who are embarrassed to say that they support Trump. That's all. A crime? :lol: c'mon man.

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You do know what he said about NATO right? He said that the USA should not be putting up all the money as per the charter, that none of the countries in NATO except the USA meets the required manpower and spending levels. He said if the other members don't want to pull their fair share then why should we? Same with Japan,we have a treaty with them,actually a mutual defense pact. They have never meet the spending levels, once again Trump questions why they should not pay to defend themselves, why should the USA pay all this money to defend everyone else when they wont do it for themselves. Once again ,we need to take care of ourselves first.



You are the same guy who bitches about Obama pissing all over our allies. What a hypocrite.

Why don't you just admit that you voted for Trump?

Admit it? Like it's a crime or something?


Well, not in Lakemoor, of course.

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As I said I am in agreement with a lot of what he says and wants to do. I am scared of his thin skin and lack of control, that is why I voted Johnson. I could not vote for him but there was No way in hell I was going to actively help HRC.

You gonna comment on what I posted in the Ashamed at the country thread Chus?

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