Stupid, antiquated system that needs to go.

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Yup

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Move to Ontario already. Jesus. Are you going to whine all week? Should be JulieDiCaroFan

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It favors the Democrats. I can't figure out how he won some of those states.

What?

There's been two elections just in this generation that have gone against the popular vote.

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The popular vote would be a huge mess this year with how close it is. It would be like 2000 Florida but everywhere.

Also, the popular vote can be misleading. If the goal was to get the most votes the campaigns would not be focusing on getting votes from certain important states.

I'd get rid of it too but the two elections where the President didn't get the most votes may not have changed if we didn't have it.

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I'm not saying it would have changed things this election. It's just a bad system. It was just as bad a week ago as it is today.

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I think they will always get IL, NY, and CA. They pretty much have a guaranteed 104 votes.

But those benefited W. & the current boob, so to MANY, they don't count.

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So if you are against the electoral college you are for those small concentrated blue spots on today's map ruling the entire country?

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One man, one vote.

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Like RR said, one man, one vote. What's more democratic than that?

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You sound like the guy who, after Romney lost in 2012, made a map of how many square miles each candidate won. As if the trees and cattle count as the electorate.

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I think this is how it should be. However I think there needs to be a viable 3rd option because both parties are often wrong. There is too much division, special interest, and I don't think most people that are entrenched in their party know what they value or what that party is doing.

No elected officials; population votes on individual legislation. Chaos!

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What?

The right will always get Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Texas, Arizona, Kansas, Nebraska, Utah, North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, Idaho, South Carolina, Alaska, Arkansas, Wyoming, Lousiana, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Kentucky.

They have a guaranteed 170 votes.

You can do better than this.

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Shouldn't this thread read the Electoral GED as the media is reporting the election was decided by those not going to college.

Yes, Spaulding, your argument makes no sense. No offense. Those states have more electoral votes because they have higher populations. Did you think they were assigned randomly?

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I don't know? Our constitution is pretty fair and hard to change. I think the present system works to be representative of all. What is next put all the senators in CA, TX and NY rather than two per state?

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What? Where do you come up with this shit? He's proposing the opposite of that.

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Now that would be awesome... they campaign in the states but don't know how many votes each one will count for until the night of the election when Wolf Blitzer draws envelopes out of a box every time they call a race for a candidate. That would liven things up.

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The only big one there is TX, then NC & TN. NC, TN, and any of the smaller states could go to the Dems at any time as they aren't really won by wide margins. PA, AZ, MI, WI, should all go democratic. The questionable ones OH and FL are the wild cards but if the Democrats put up a half decent person they'd win it most of the time.

I don't believe they are as guaranteed their 170 as the Democrats are guaranteed their 104.

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Stupid hippy.

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This makes no sense Mike.

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What are you talking about? None of this is correct or even makes sense.

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Bill carried quite a few of those states however.

Georgia(clinton), Alabama, Mississippi, Texas, Arizona, Kansas, Nebraska, Utah, North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana(clinton), Idaho, South Carolina, Alaska, Arkansas(clinton *2), Wyoming, Lousiana(clinton *2), Tennessee(clinton *2), Oklahoma, Kentucky (clinton *2)

You can add a few more auto Dem states with Washington(12),Oregan(7),MN(10), Mass(11),RI(4), CT(7), NJ(14), DE(3) MD(10), DC(3) and VA (13) You have to go back to Reagan before any of those states flip.

Shame on her for losing WI(10) , MI(16), and PA(20). First time those flipped since Reagan.

That's not the point, though. There is no inherent advantage for a Democrat simply because more heavily populated states carry more electoral votes. If it was one man, one vote, that same philosophy would hold true - California would account for way more votes than North Dakota.

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I really believe if they had anybody but Hillary they'd easily have gotten MI, WI, AZ, PA and that would have been enough. There's no way he should have won.

My point is it isn't necessarily good that what is favored in CA is more important than ND. The system was set up like this for a reason.

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