Trump is many things but I do not believe he is a liar. He is not a politician he is a businessman. A quite rich one at that. I will take a chance that he can at least try to fix some of the problems we as a country have been divided on for way over eight years. Obama has never had a job outside of taxpayers money footing his way for life and this will continue until he croaks.

He's not a liar? I guess you define lying differently than I do. Perhaps intentionally factually incorrect fits the bill?

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

Who running for this office is not a liar? I mean... is it possible to run for public office and not be on some level full of shit?

You're disagreeing with Scooter, not me.

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

Trump is many things but I do not believe he is a liar. He is not a politician he is a businessman. A quite rich one at that. I will take a chance that he can at least try to fix some of the problems we as a country have been divided on for way over eight years. Obama has never had a job outside of taxpayers money footing his way for life and this will continue until he croaks.

Who running for this office is not a liar?

Gary Johnson. In fact, he's brutally honest. #WhatIsAleppo

I'm a big dumb shitlib baby

Gary Johnson. In fact, he's brutally honest. #WhatIsAleppo

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

Genuine bewilderment or honesty?

Yeah, he's definitely not a liar. He makes me yearn for a liar.

You called it bullshit. That's pretty strong. I'm wondering what's bullshit about it.

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

All right man.

Tell ya what, one thing I dig about trump is he is a businessman. A largely successful one. I like that he's going to look at trade deals and treaties like a businessman and not like a person looking for political advantage or cover.

Anyway thanks for the chat.

All right man.

Tell ya what, one thing I dig about trump is he is a businessman. A largely successful one. I like that he's going to look at trade deals and treaties like a businessman and not like a person looking for political advantage or cover.

Anyway thanks for the chat.

I voted for Trump.
That whole national security problem Hillary has made it impossible for me to vote for her. Knowing who her money comes from bothers me. Her sense of entitlement is distasteful. I found her carpet bagging disingenuous. She feels as fake as a 3 dollar bill to me too. Trump is what he is. He's not putting on a false face.he is what he is.
I don't think Trump can be bough . I'm positive Hillary can be.
Had Trump run against any one of dozens of others Hillary beat in the primaries he doesn't get my vote. She is the only opponent of his that forces my vote to him.
Now I'm going to be called a racist, a sexist, uneducated by Hillary supporters. That's quite unfortunate. I'm not racist. I'm not a misogynistic uneducated Rube.
In my opinion they're both just terrible people. Yet I held my nose and cast my lot with him. He's the definition of a political outsider. That's great for the bullshit good ol boy network that dominated the political scene. I hope he does piss off both sides of the aisle. I hope he shakes them all off their comfortable perches.
Like I said before, this government needs an enema.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

You're giving him way too much credit as a business man. Further, for all his talk I don't think he has a clue with regard to trade agreements. It's easy to bash them when you know nobody in your audience understands them and will just cheer anything you say. Obama will close Gitmo before Trump renegotiates these deals.

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

Well... I guess we'll see.

In a perverted sort of way I am happy that he won. I wanted Hillary make no mistake about it but I think that Trump's election has taken the scab off a portion of America that most people believed was long ago buried.

I am not a race baiter nor an apologist for African Americans. I think you have seen me take blacks to tasks on a number of issues on this board. That said the notion that racism in this country was eradicated simply because Obama was elected is something that always bothered me. This other notion that Trump's candidacy wasn't heavily fueled by racism and xenophobia was also troubling.

Why everyone keeps talking about the person that Hillary Clinton was while conveniently ignoring who Trump happens to be is mind-boggling. This jackass insulted every fucking body on his way to the Presidency and people cheered his ass on every step of the way.

They either completely ignored who he is or didn't care. They could make about her but in their quest to perpetually spin everything it became apparent that nothing he did was ever "bad enough".

This idiot is now repping this country. Yeah people were angry because they what, finally got a chance to taste how disenfranchisement feels? Yeah they had economic angst whoopty fucking doo. This sort of shit African Americans have felt throughout most of their lives and the same people that now laud working class whites are the same ones that have blasted blacks and other minorities for years. Often called them lazy, shiftless and when they weren't doing that they simply criticized them for having the "audacity" to complain at all.

Among this group you'd find those that would constantly blast minorities for their lack of education. Trump's hypocritical ass staunchly criticized blacks for not being educated and called their schools fucked up but had no problem referring to counterpart whites as the ones this country left behind. Why wasn't this same rationale extended to blacks of similar station? I think we know why don't we?


That said I'm going to watch accept and hope that he governs in a fashion different than he campaigned. He deserves the right as the winner to have his day. I will try to be objective but it's going to be rough. As Speeps stated a while back a number of Presidents have been racists. Some have checked it at the door in order to do what they believed is the right thing to do. Trump's history doesn't suggest that he will do that but we will see. If he doesn't this has the potential to tear this country apart.

Blacks in this country are angry, as are Muslims, Hispanics and other minorities too. Working class whites don't have a monopoly on being angry. This thing has the potential to be a damn disaster but we will see.

I agree with a lot of this. Trump pulled off the biggest con job ever because he studied and understood his marks.

I've been telling you people (what do you mean 'you people'?) for how long now that there's virtually no difference between US politics and pro wrestling.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Admit it? Like it's a crime or something?

Cheap labor overseas-- like less than what pay rates in 1956 were-- is why most of the jobs are gone.

As I said I am in agreement with a lot of what he says and wants to do. I am scared of his thin skin and lack of control, that is why I voted Johnson. I could not vote for him but there was No way in hell I was going to actively help HRC.

You gonna comment on what I posted in the Ashamed at the country thread Chus?

Settle down.

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

Trump is many things but I do not believe he is a liar.

The guy spent the last 18 months telling one lie after another. How many times did he claim that he didn't say something that he clearly did?

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

The guy spent the last 18 months telling one lie after another. How many times did he claim that he didn't say something that he clearly did?

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Does this make you feel better to act like I'm freaking out?