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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:49 pm 
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I fail to see the harm in this, but sure, douchebag people trying to offer support because FUCK THEM AMIRITE?!?!


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I hate to be the bearer of bad news to these youngsters, but safety pins do not actually protect you from the problems you will encounter in the real world.

Here is a novel idea - grow up and realize (before it is too late) that empty symbolic gestures are no substitute for actually addressing, coping with and doing something about actual difficulties you face in life.

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I hate to be the bearer of bad news to these youngsters, but safety pins do not actually protect you from the problems you will encounter in the real world.

Here is a novel idea - grow up and realize (before it is too late) that empty symbolic gestures are no substitute for actually addressing, coping with and doing something about actual difficulties you face in life.


No part of the millennial cohort has realized this. Even the older tail still think hash tags effect real world change. Fuck em, and their pins

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I hate to be the bearer of bad news to these youngsters, but safety pins do not actually protect you from the problems you will encounter in the real world.

Here is a novel idea - grow up and realize (before it is too late) that empty symbolic gestures are no substitute for actually addressing, coping with and doing something about actual difficulties you face in life.

Here's a novel idea - grow up and realize (before it's too late) that these aren't empty symbolic gestures in that they help some people address and cope with the actual difficulties in their lives. Some people don't have the luxury of being rich white males with enough power to do something you might feel is worth it. Maybe they start with this "stupid" idea of safety pins but eventually they go a little farther next time and the next and the next and they create a change you begrudgingly acknowledge. Or we can just shit on everyone and belittle any attempt at reaching out to people that may be in need of some support, no matter how small it is, that's much easier and then we can act like there's no problem.

For all the shit people talk about "SJWs" on this site, realize a lot of what gets posted here reads like stuff right out of the white male privilege textbook. Julie's got her Twitter as her SJW echo chamber and we have Julie's thread for the WMP echo chamber.


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stoneroses86 wrote:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news to these youngsters, but safety pins do not actually protect you from the problems you will encounter in the real world.

Here is a novel idea - grow up and realize (before it is too late) that empty symbolic gestures are no substitute for actually addressing, coping with and doing something about actual difficulties you face in life.

Here's a novel idea - grow up and realize (before it's too late) that these aren't empty symbolic gestures in that they help some people address and cope with the actual difficulties in their lives. Some people don't have the luxury of being rich white males with enough power to do something you might feel is worth it. Maybe they start with this "stupid" idea of safety pins but eventually they go a little farther next time and the next and the next and they create a change you begrudgingly acknowledge. Or we can just shit on everyone and belittle any attempt at reaching out to people that may be in need of some support, no matter how small it is, that's much easier and then we can act like there's no problem.

For all the shit people talk about "SJWs" on this site, realize a lot of what gets posted here reads like stuff right out of the white male privilege textbook. Julie's got her Twitter as her SJW echo chamber and we have Julie's thread for the WMP echo chamber.
The problem is that it legitimizes the idea that our next President is actually going to be a danger to American citizens or people in general when we only have empty campaign promises that have mostly been walked back to go on.

It's kind of like the ribbons that people wear for other stuff. It was great at the start but now there are so many ribbons that they get all lost in the crowd of them.

People are overreacting about Trump being elected as a way to be victims when it just doesn't exist.

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I love how you assume we are all privileged white males. You got some low T brah

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I feel sorry for anybody who believes that wearing a safety pin accomplishes anything. They are delusional and/or they are taking the "safety" part a bit too literally.

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I love how you assume we are all privileged white males. You got some low T brah

Only said people talked like it, you got some low reading comp brah. I know stoneroses86 is though :lol:


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I love how you assume we are all privileged white males. You got some low T brah

Only said people talked like it, you got some low reading comp brah. I know stoneroses86 is though :lol:


Fair enough. They got a pill for what I got?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
The problem is that it legitimizes the idea that our next President is actually going to be a danger to American citizens or people in general when we only have empty campaign promises that have mostly been walked back to go on.

It's kind of like the ribbons that people wear for other stuff. It was great at the start but now there are so many ribbons that they get all lost in the crowd of them.

People are overreacting about Trump being elected as a way to be victims when it just doesn't exist.


I'm not sure you get to decide if people should feel the President is a danger to them or if they're overreacting. As stated, there's more to be concerned about for a lot of people than just who the President is when every branch of government will be controlled by the same party.


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ToxicMasculinity wrote:
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I love how you assume we are all privileged white males. You got some low T brah

Only said people talked like it, you got some low reading comp brah. I know stoneroses86 is though :lol:


Fair enough. They got a pill for what I got?


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KDdidit wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
The problem is that it legitimizes the idea that our next President is actually going to be a danger to American citizens or people in general when we only have empty campaign promises that have mostly been walked back to go on.

It's kind of like the ribbons that people wear for other stuff. It was great at the start but now there are so many ribbons that they get all lost in the crowd of them.

People are overreacting about Trump being elected as a way to be victims when it just doesn't exist.


I'm not sure you get to decide if people should feel the President is a danger to them or if they're overreacting. As stated, there's more to be concerned about for a lot of people than just who the President is when every branch of government will be controlled by the same party.
You are the one telling people how they should feel about this. I can do the same.

It's part sour grapes and part fear mongering. Token things like this can actually lead to more fear by making people think that this is required because a Republican was elected President. The moment that something happens that actually should have women/minorities/white men scared is when we should react.

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I hate to be the bearer of bad news to these youngsters, but safety pins do not actually protect you from the problems you will encounter in the real world.

Here is a novel idea - grow up and realize (before it is too late) that empty symbolic gestures are no substitute for actually addressing, coping with and doing something about actual difficulties you face in life.

Here's a novel idea - grow up and realize (before it's too late) that these aren't empty symbolic gestures in that they help some people address and cope with the actual difficulties in their lives. Some people don't have the luxury of being rich white males with enough power to do something you might feel is worth it. Maybe they start with this "stupid" idea of safety pins but eventually they go a little farther next time and the next and the next and they create a change you begrudgingly acknowledge. Or we can just shit on everyone and belittle any attempt at reaching out to people that may be in need of some support, no matter how small it is, that's much easier and then we can act like there's no problem.

For all the shit people talk about "SJWs" on this site, realize a lot of what gets posted here reads like stuff right out of the white male privilege textbook. Julie's got her Twitter as her SJW echo chamber and we have Julie's thread for the WMP echo chamber.


That's not true. I have female friends. I even have females who work for me, and they make a damn fine cup of coffee.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
The problem is that it legitimizes the idea that our next President is actually going to be a danger to American citizens or people in general when we only have empty campaign promises that have mostly been walked back to go on.

It's kind of like the ribbons that people wear for other stuff. It was great at the start but now there are so many ribbons that they get all lost in the crowd of them.

People are overreacting about Trump being elected as a way to be victims when it just doesn't exist.


I'm not sure you get to decide if people should feel the President is a danger to them or if they're overreacting. As stated, there's more to be concerned about for a lot of people than just who the President is when every branch of government will be controlled by the same party.
You are the one telling people how they should feel about this. I can do the same.

It's part sour grapes and part fear mongering. Token things like this can actually lead to more fear by making people think that this is required because a Republican was elected President. The moment that something happens that actually should have women/minorities/white men scared is when we should react.


Glad you've already decided it's a "token thing."


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You said roughly the same thing too. "No matter how small it is"

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I have never seen anything so ridiculous in my life. Who are these idiotic children?

Did you catch the World Series this year?

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I could see being a little uneasy if you are Muslim and to some extent, Mexican


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You said roughly the same thing too. "No matter how small it is"

"Token" - done for the sake of appearances or as a symbolic gesture. That's not roughly the same as "small."


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stoneroses86 wrote:
I have never seen anything so ridiculous in my life. Who are these idiotic children?

Did you catch the World Series this year?

Cubs now just a scant 24 titles behind The GLORIOUS ones


Of course I saw the World Series. I even started a thread in the Cubs section to offer my congratulations on an inspiring victory.

I am very happy for the true fans like the great Rogers Park Bryan.

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As a gay - muslim - mexican man, I assure you there is nothing to worry about (as long as you wear your safety pin).

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KDdidit wrote:
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You said roughly the same thing too. "No matter how small it is"

"Token" - done for the sake of appearances or as a symbolic gesture. That's not roughly the same as "small."
A token gesture is a gesture that is so small it is virtually meaningless.

So yes, when you say "no matter how small it is" that includes token gestures.

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KDdidit wrote:
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news to these youngsters, but safety pins do not actually protect you from the problems you will encounter in the real world.

Here is a novel idea - grow up and realize (before it is too late) that empty symbolic gestures are no substitute for actually addressing, coping with and doing something about actual difficulties you face in life.

Here's a novel idea - grow up and realize (before it's too late) that these aren't empty symbolic gestures in that they help some people address and cope with the actual difficulties in their lives. Some people don't have the luxury of being rich white males with enough power to do something you might feel is worth it. Maybe they start with this "stupid" idea of safety pins but eventually they go a little farther next time and the next and the next and they create a change you begrudgingly acknowledge. Or we can just shit on everyone and belittle any attempt at reaching out to people that may be in need of some support, no matter how small it is, that's much easier and then we can act like there's no problem.

For all the shit people talk about "SJWs" on this site, realize a lot of what gets posted here reads like stuff right out of the white male privilege textbook. Julie's got her Twitter as her SJW echo chamber and we have Julie's thread for the WMP echo chamber.
The problem is that it legitimizes the idea that our next President is actually going to be a danger to American citizens or people in general when we only have empty campaign promises that have mostly been walked back to go on.

It's kind of like the ribbons that people wear for other stuff. It was great at the start but now there are so many ribbons that they get all lost in the crowd of them.

People are overreacting about Trump being elected as a way to be victims when it just doesn't exist.


It may not necessarily be the president or his staff that people are concerned about but the violence and hatred from ordinary citizens since they now feel emboldened
Yes im aware some (or MANY) of those stories have been debunked, but I'm sure to those various groups the threat is real


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
stoneroses86 wrote:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news to these youngsters, but safety pins do not actually protect you from the problems you will encounter in the real world.

Here is a novel idea - grow up and realize (before it is too late) that empty symbolic gestures are no substitute for actually addressing, coping with and doing something about actual difficulties you face in life.

Here's a novel idea - grow up and realize (before it's too late) that these aren't empty symbolic gestures in that they help some people address and cope with the actual difficulties in their lives. Some people don't have the luxury of being rich white males with enough power to do something you might feel is worth it. Maybe they start with this "stupid" idea of safety pins but eventually they go a little farther next time and the next and the next and they create a change you begrudgingly acknowledge. Or we can just shit on everyone and belittle any attempt at reaching out to people that may be in need of some support, no matter how small it is, that's much easier and then we can act like there's no problem.

For all the shit people talk about "SJWs" on this site, realize a lot of what gets posted here reads like stuff right out of the white male privilege textbook. Julie's got her Twitter as her SJW echo chamber and we have Julie's thread for the WMP echo chamber.
The problem is that it legitimizes the idea that our next President is actually going to be a danger to American citizens or people in general when we only have empty campaign promises that have mostly been walked back to go on.

It's kind of like the ribbons that people wear for other stuff. It was great at the start but now there are so many ribbons that they get all lost in the crowd of them.

People are overreacting about Trump being elected as a way to be victims when it just doesn't exist.


It may not necessarily be the president or his staff that people are concerned about but the violence and hatred from ordinary citizens since they now feel emboldened
Yes im aware some (or MANY) of those stories have been debunked, but I'm sure to those various groups the threat is real


Because there is power in victimhood. There's no real evidence that racists have been "emboldened". All there is is Internet bullshit.

http://reason.com/blog/2016/11/11/elect ... tack-false

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I fixed it.



Yea idk...it does dismiss some of the "higher profile" (alleged) incidents
But for one, links to a Snopes page going on and on about how some grainy photo wasn't actually the KKK victory parade , but then at the end says "but they do have one scheduled for a few weeks from now " :lol: I mean wtf
That article/post also seems willing to concede people may be saying hurtful comments , but hey that's not as bad as a hate crime wave !
Maybe, but if you're a gay person or Hispanic or whatever and you feel when you leave your house each day you may be subjected to verbal taunts, is that really going to make you feel any better just because that person may not pull a knife on you ?


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it could produce lots of anxiety, definitely. not a healthy thing.

i'd say that many whites say they have a lot of anxiety over being blamed for all sorts of weird shit, too.

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it could produce lots of anxiety, definitely. not a healthy thing.

i'd say that many whites say they have a lot of anxiety over being blamed for all sorts of weird shit, too.

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