It's tough to be anti-bully without being a bully.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

This is the group the liberal media ignored. I think they need to change the way they cover elections but not the way people think. The media needs to stop with the "horserace" way that they cover elections. The most covered story during this election of Hillary Clinton's emails. This was the case even after it had always been litigated.

There is so much stuff out there on Trump that they'd hadn't covered because they never thought that he'd win. He has and now everyone's scrambling to see how it happened. It happened because a number of people really don't know who the real Donald Trump happens to be. They will now.

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Ltg, I don't think the media could have done anything else to further expose Trump. The ads against him, "I'd look her in the fat ugly face", et al, ran constantly. They exposed the sheer stupidity of his words. And yet he still won.

I want Trump to draw me a picture of the 400 pound person he said hacked the DNC during the debate. Where did he come up with so much boloney?

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Hawaii (fuck) You

I have to admit, even though the spirit of it repulsed me, I kind of miss the "I don't know what I said. I can't remember" ad had a real ear worm quality to it.

Maybe it was the sing-songy nature of it but I still can hear it playing in my head.

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You know me like that.

I laughed out loud every single time. It was even better when you caught that ad on tv with the visual. My entire family would laugh at that line.

And he's our next President.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

I miss the one where Donald was ranting about telling people to F off. Hillary thought that sort of dialogue would turn people on when it possibly turned more people onto the Donald

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That's not really what he said, denis. He was making a point that Clinton had no idea it was Russians.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

They never really covered Donald Trump the businessman oddly enough. Carville talked about how Hillary never made the economic sale on election night. They never made an issue of how Trump royally screws people over in business. I think that was the one issue that would have stuck had they done it. He is as crooked as it gets and that continued even during the election. They focused on stuff that doesn't really resonate politically. I think this would have but of course we will never know.

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Dude, your candidate lost, get over it and stop whining like a 6 year old with a skinned knee. Maybe we should give you a nice shiny participation trophy for voting instead of the sticker you got and that will shut you up.Isn't it time for you to slink back to the cesspool of the NBA section whence you came?

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Agreed. They never turned his perceived strength into a weakness. Trump made her experience a liability.

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GO BEARS!!!

You're not paying attention then. The WSJ ran a massive piece on all the small businesses that Trump screwed over. CNN kept pounding the tax return thing even showing the actual tax return that was released in court. They hammered every guess and supporter that came on in favor of Trump.

The papers and networks aren't there to run stories that resonate politically. They run stories that get eyeballs and readers. And thus their stories are usually sound bite, low quality crap that they run into the ground.

If you wanted to blame the press for anything, it's that they gave Trump endless free coverage. His craziness drove ratings.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

exactly! i'm with you on this one for sure, because when i talk about the reasons i don't vote one of them is that because i live in chicago/land, no matter who i decided to vote for my vote wouldn't have mattered. hilldog = you add 1 more vote on top of the margin she already won the popular vote by. trump = since hillary won illinois and got the electoral votes from it en route to the popular vote, it honestly didn't matter if trump got another vote from me seeing as in the end the popular vote technically doesn't matter.

now if you wanna say that the theory behind the electoral college is to make sure that people in buttfuck, montana don't effectively have their "voice" erased by the glut of people in all of the big cities in america, welp, i technically can understand why you'd wanna think this way. to a certain extent i can understand the concept that america is just more than like 25 big cities and a bunch of suburbs/metropolitan-areas, and therefore people who live in far-out rural areas would effectively be silenced/neutralized by virtue of the fact that there's far less people "like them" compared to sub/urban people who live in areas with much much higher population density.

THAT SAID

on the other hand why do people in buttfuck montana get to have votes that are effectively more valuable than mine? yes, even tho montana has less electoral votes than illinois does, at the same time there's still SOME concept of "everyone HAS to have their voice heard" which basically means that people in the boonies have votes that carry more weight by virtue that there's less of them than there are people voting [blue] in NYC/LA/Chi/etc. in that sense it's like i'm being penalized for living in an area where people want to live, because after a certain point it's like "yeah, we get the idea chicago! ok we'll just give your area/state to hilldog and move on"

if "every man [was] created equal" and the people TRULY decided who the next president was, then at the end of the day the popular vote has to be the be-all/end-all for electing presidents. there's just no way around it.... you take the whole damn country, add up all the votes, and whoever has the most wins. it's beyond simple and "common sense" to me, so to have anything but the popular vote determining who wins you basically end up with what leash said: "the system was designed to make sure that "the great unwashed" didn't (accidentally) elect someone who wasn't "supposed to be" president.

so yeah, hey, what can i say? i totally agree with leash on something for once in my....



dadgummit! go figure that a guy whose nickname implies that your children are feral beasts who should be leashed at all time to prevent those [lesser beings] from bothering him tends to think that people en masse shouldn't be allowed to choose who his president is! #NotMyPresident #PedanticLeft #LeashKnowsBest #ThatWillLearnYa

(honestly, outside of the "bit" here, i technically don't think that leash is entirely wrong.... it's just that when i say that "there's no way that the average shmoes who constantly get in my way at jewel are going to be allowed to make any decisions that matter, i do it in such a way that doesn't imply that i transcend all of said schmoes.... when you talk about "the great unwashed" and all that it's like "do you really think i went out of my way to take a shower today?" =P)

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I really think that you need to stop before I really go in on your dumbass. I try to be diplomatic when it comes to replying to your posts but it is obvious that there is something else at work. By "shut you up" I know that you are talking about something else
I am to tell you this for the last time. I'm built for bullshit. You need to really leave this petty vendetta alone. You really do. If I have a thought I'm going to express it. If you want to disagree then disagree but you are never going to "put me in my place". This is at least the 3rd time you have attempted to do this sort of thing. It's not going to happen.

As I stated before Im built for bullshit.

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Agree. Why can't we just have a nice intellectual argument? It's pretty clear that a lot of people are hurt by Trump's election. I certainly see that with folks like Nas.

Now let's be constructive and talk about why it happened or what Trump is going to do. You don't have to agree with Ltg, but at least show some decency.

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The press drove the Email thing well past it's expiration date. People weren't really that interested in it in my opinion. The Trump business stuff never received the coverage it deserved.

I really don't think it would've made much difference. I really think a lot of people simply wanted him to be president.

I also think that the Clintons did a bad job with this too. Spent too much time trying to paint him as crazy.

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It is not just . A lot , and I mean a lot, of people did not want HRC to be president. Face the fact. If you had anyone else but her running Trump would not of had a chance. Zero zip. Add to the fact that she did not really campaign like she wanted to win. She took wayyyy to many days off, "rest" and recuperate. Say all you want about Trump not deep down wanting the job but at least he looked like he wanted it by being out there almost everyday. HRC would be not seen for days plus her refusal to talk to the press directly. Complain about the press but Trump,adversarial relationship and all, talked to them, gave them sound bites to run with. HRC gave them nothing, when when they where on the same bus/plane it was a rare thing for her to actually come back and dirty her hands to talk to them.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

How do you explain him beating out 16 other people? Didn't they have another choice in that situation?

I agree she ran a bad campaign. I think she is better than her campaign showed. I don't think it is merely about people not wanting her. People wanted Trump

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True people wanted Trump but once again. the margin was so narrow it showed that any one else would have beaten him, I do not see why you can't admit it that she was as bad of a candidate as she was. Why you keep up the mantra of she was better than this, no she was not.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

It's difficult to make the "anyone else" argument when she beat Sanders by 4 million votes and actually garnered more votes than Trump. We will never know that for sure.

I really think that people do not want to face the fact that people in this country believe in a lot of what Trump believes. This was not a default pick. He beat 16 other people rather easily. If people didn't want Trump he would not have made it this far.

He did nothing as a candidate which demonstrated that he should be President and we elected him anyway. There is nothing that can excuse that.

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I heard Sam Harris say that Clinton's flaws as a candidate blinded a lot of people to Trump's flaws as a human being.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

back when i was in high school all the skateboarders loved to lug their skateboards around from class to class so that way between periods everyone could see that they were a skateboarder [respect ensues]. welp, one day kris gibson--- a semi/retarded kid who ended up being the guy who got caught masturbating once or twice in the boys bathroom but you couldn't really do anything about it cuz it's kris gibson, you know--- showed up to school with a snoopy "Joe Cool" skateboard and proudly lugged it around all day so between periods everyone can see that HE was a cool skateboarder just like all of the others. brilliance ensues!

naturally all the skateboarders saw his snoopy "Joe Cool" skateboard and laughed at him like "LOL LOOK AT KHWHISS*! HE'S A REAL SKATEBOARDER GUYS!" all basically "LOL FAIL!" but during lunch period i was talking to steve c00k (the non-ostentatious longest-tenured "skateboarder" out of all the "skateboarders" -- he's the guy who designed the skate park @ the Lattof YMCA on northwest highway in des plaines, along with the elk grove park district one and etc) --- and steve pulled me aside and said "hey jim, you see all these skaters laughing at kris gibson? they don't realize that kris gibson of all people is doing a brilliant satire of their lugging around skateboards all day bullshit, do they? they don't realize that they're the actual punchline here! the only question is did kris mean to do this, or did he genuinely just try to fit in with them and unwittingly do a most brilliant satire of them?" --- we ended up agreeing on it probably being a moment of unintentional brillance on kris' gibson's part.

AHEM. so yeah, i think it's the same exact situation with chas here. he's just managed to unwittingly do a brilliant satire of pedantic lefties talking down to their opponents, going ad hominem and of course all infantile ("6 year old with a skinned knee") in doing that thing where instead of debating the actual issue/s (for whatever reason/s) they just decide to attack the credibility of their opponents in order to swing the topic of the conversation to [their opponent and how much they suck], so if i didn't know any better i'd wanna go out of my way to high-five chas here and give him props for giving [lefties] "a taste of their own medicine** " i'm pretty damn sure that this is his natural rhetoric and therefore not technically the "brilliance" that i'd wanna give him credit for, so i'm not going to do that in favor of doing this'ere TLDR/storytime bullshit.

TLDR = lol i think chas unwittingly/unintentionally ended up doing a brilliant satire of lefties/SJWs with his ad hominem there. no offense to LTG, but i just gotta call it as i see it! =D

inb4 ad hominem on sini like "pfft, like i read any of your 5000 word magna carta of incoherent drivel you fucking [peJORRative =]" because this message was misconstrued as an attack on LTG/lefties as opposed to my typical "wannabe-transcendental color commentary" =D

* = "KHWISS GWIBSEN" = intentionally slurred/speech-impedimented means of saying "kris" akin to how kris said his own name, in order to mellifluously call kris a retard without actually saying he's a retard.

** = i don't know LTG and don't mean to "call him out" to "go in on him" --- like i said, i'm just trying to call it as i see it and color commentate what's happening when chas (of all people) ends up doing a brilliant little satire that i think he's in no way capable of doing because i don't think he'd even realize that saying what he did in the context/timing that he did = "brilliant satire" -- this is just #ChasBeingChas, you know? seriously LTG PEACE AND LOVE! PEACE AND LOVE! - ringo

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I wholeheartedly agree with that. You couldn't even get people on here to talk about Trump. I think many people thought he'd never make it but once it was a 2 person race it was imperative to do so.

Trump is fucked up. It's one of the reasons that he has people sign non disclosure agreements. I'm going to holdout hope that he will be a good President but from the stuff I've read about him I really don't think so.

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For MANY low information voters that is true. I know a lot of them.

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GO BEARS!!!

I could see that.

technically hillary doesn't have any flaws as a "human being" because she isn't one; i'm fairly certain that she's one of these things.

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I thought that for a long time. The fact that he actually won seems ridiculous to me still. But I started to believe he had a chance after the Brexit vote and I really thought he had a chance going in to Election Week in spite of what the polls were saying. It didn't really matter for us in Illinois though. We were going for Clinton no matter what. That was a certainty. They had actually called Illinois for her before I voted.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Redskin Greg can probably back this up - and maybe explain why someone made it - but by chance I found myself listening to Brandmeier in the car on Tuesday morning, and apparently some listener had, at some point, taken a few the opening bars of Earth, Wind, & Fire's "September" - basically the long-held notes leading into the first words of the head of the chart, "Do you remember" and then immediately spliced in Trump yelling "I Don't Remember". It was wonderfully bizarre and more entertaining than it had any business being.

edit: it's in the last minute of Tuesday's podcast ... http://www.brandmeiershow.com/2016/11/08/the-jonathon-brandmeier-show-tuesday-11-08-16/ so dumb, so wonderful

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Deep down, don't we all think we transcend it? Plato was the original... he believed that plebes should be guided by kings... and of course, he thought those kings should be philosophers. Nothing self-serving there.

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All you liberals are acting like Trump is going to Kill all the gays,make slavery legal again and take away women's rights.
I really don't think he is going to convert to Islam.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Yes, all of us liberals are saying those things.

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Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way