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Inside Hillary Clinton's campaign, she was known as Ada. Like the candidate herself, she had a penchant for secrecy and a private server. As blame gets parceled out Wednesday for the Democrat's stunning loss to Republican President-elect Donald Trump, Ada is likely to get a lot of second-guessing.

Ada is a complex computer algorithm that the campaign was prepared to publicly unveil after the election as its invisible guiding hand. Named for a female 19th-century mathematician — Ada, Countess of Lovelace — the algorithm was said to play a role in virtually every strategic decision Clinton aides made, including where and when to deploy the candidate and her battalion of surrogates and where to air television ads — as well as when it was safe to stay dark.

The campaign's deployment of other resources — including county-level campaign offices and the staging of high-profile concerts with stars like Jay Z and Beyoncé — was largely dependent on Ada's work, as well.

While the Clinton campaign's reliance on analytics became well known, the particulars of Ada's work were kept under tight wraps, according to aides. The algorithm operated on a separate computer server than the rest of the Clinton operation as a security precaution, and only a few senior aides were able to access it.

According to aides, a raft of polling numbers, public and private, were fed into the algorithm, as well as ground-level voter data meticulously collected by the campaign. Once early voting began, those numbers were factored in, too.

What Ada did, based on all that data, aides said, was run 400,000 simulations a day of what the race against Trump might look like. A report that was spit out would give campaign manager Robby Mook and others a detailed picture of which battleground states were most likely to tip the race in one direction or another — and guide decisions about where to spend time and deploy resources.

The use of analytics by campaigns was hardly unprecedented. But Clinton aides were convinced their work, which was far more sophisticated than anything employed by President Obama or GOP nominee Mitt Romney in 2012, gave them a big strategic advantage over Trump.

So where did Ada go wrong?

About some things, she was apparently right. Aides say Pennsylvania was pegged as an extremely important state early on, which explains why Clinton was such a frequent visitor and chose to hold her penultimate rally in Philadelphia on Monday night.

But it appears that the importance of other states Clinton would lose — including Michigan and Wisconsin — never became fully apparent or that it was too late once it did.

Clinton made several visits to Michigan during the general election, but it wasn't until the final days that she, Obama and her husband made such a concerted effort.

As for Wisconsin: Clinton didn't make any appearances there at all.


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In the closing weeks of the presidential race, Hillary Clinton's campaign — and the outside groups that supported it — aired more television advertisements in Omaha than in the states of Michigan and Wisconsin combined. The Omaha ads were in pursuit of a single electoral vote in a Nebraska congressional district, which Clinton did not ultimately win, and also bled into households in Iowa, which also she did not win. Michigan and Wisconsin add up to 26 electoral votes; she appears not to have won them, either.

Strategic decisions can make all the difference in a close race. Clinton lost the White House (despite winning the popular vote) to Republican Donald Trump on the strength of about 100,000 votes in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. That is the definition of a close race.

But a review of Democrats' advertising decisions at the end of the race suggests Clinton and her allies weren't playing to win a close one. They were playing for a blowout. And it cost them.

Clinton and the groups backing her aired three times as many ads as Trump and his supporters over the course of the general election, according to data from the Wesleyan Media Project. Despite that advantage, the Democrats left several key states essentially unprotected on the airwaves as the race came to a close.

From Oct. 14 through 30, they ran almost no ads in Wisconsin, Michigan and Virginia, and they aired less than half as many ads as Trump and his backers did in Colorado. By virtue of their spending choices, the pro-Clinton groups were essentially acting as if she had locked up as many as 248 electoral votes already.


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I'm picturing a scenario like Good Will Hunting, where the night janitor comes in and figures everything out, except instead of solving a complex equation, he just writes "OH MY GOD, PLACE MORE AD BUYS IN WISCONSIN THAN CALIFORNIA, YOU IDIOTS," and then instead of being rewarded, everyone comes in the next morning and says Russians hacked the chalkboard.

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I'm picturing a scenario like Good Will Hunting, where the night janitor comes in and figures everything out, except instead of solving a complex equation, he just writes "OH MY GOD, PLACE MORE AD BUYS IN WISCONSIN THAN CALIFORNIA, YOU IDIOTS," and then instead of being rewarded, everyone comes in the next morning and says Russians hacked the chalkboard.


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It looks like the trumps law suits got in their head and they were worried about winning the election and losing the popular vote.

Either way shockingly bad judgement. I'm gonna guess bill wasn't involved with these strategy decisions.


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TurdFerguson wrote:
I'm gonna guess bill wasn't involved with these strategy decisions.

Bill told them to go after the white working class and the VERY SMART PEOPLE laughed him off as a crazy old man.

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TurdFerguson wrote:
I'm gonna guess bill wasn't involved with these strategy decisions.

Bill told them to go after the white working class and the VERY SMART PEOPLE laughed him off as a crazy old man.


Whoops.

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Wow 7 times more in LA than in Milwaukee...

That is absolutely insane.

Her campaign was s dumpster fire.

I bet somewhere deep inside Ole Bill is happy she lost. He is the only Clinton that has the magic.

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Wow 7 times more in LA than in Milwaukee...

That is absolutely insane.

Her campaign was s dumpster fire.

I bet somewhere deep inside Ole Bill is happy she lost. He is the only Clinton that has the magic.


:lol: :lol:

Well it got her the popular vote. Which is not how you win the election.

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The campaign's deployment of other resources — including county-level campaign offices and the staging of high-profile concerts with stars like Jay Z and Beyoncé — was largely dependent on Ada's work, as well.

Just gotta requote this. This is the apotheosis of mainstream liberalism: using big data to plan a Beyonce concert. I give up.

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RFDC wrote:
Wow 7 times more in LA than in Milwaukee...

That is absolutely insane.

Her campaign was s dumpster fire.

I bet somewhere deep inside Ole Bill is happy she lost. He is the only Clinton that has the magic.


Trump ran no ads and had no ground game and people still voted for him. Hillary Clinton campaigned badly at the end but I don't believe that cost her. Trump ran a terrible campaign made a ton of mistakes debated terribly insulted everyone that came to mind and people still voted for him.


This country wanted Trump to be President and people are reluctant to admit it because it would force them to make other declarations also.

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Hillary Clinton campaigned badly at the end but I don't believe that cost her.

Do you believe anything did? No, probably not, because that would mean reckoning with some serious problems within the party and campaign. Much easier for liberals, the tribunes of rationality, reason, and empiricism, to just say "welp, racists" than confront that THEY FUCKED UP.

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The spin on all of this truly rich too. The same group that spent the entirety of the campaign bashing Hillary and conveniently ignoring Trump (hence the name Never Trumper) are at it once again.

Now its her fault that this country elected Donald Trump. Oh if she'd only been a better person and candidate then we would not have been forced to vote for that racist bigoted Donald Trump. See Hillary Clinton look what you made us do. We really didn't want to but you forced our hand. This shit is truly grand.

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RFDC wrote:
Wow 7 times more in LA than in Milwaukee...

That is absolutely insane.

Her campaign was s dumpster fire.

I bet somewhere deep inside Ole Bill is happy she lost. He is the only Clinton that has the magic.


Trump ran no ads and had no ground game and people still voted for him. Hillary Clinton campaigned badly at the end but I don't believe that cost her. Trump ran a terrible campaign made a ton of mistakes debated terribly insulted everyone that came to mind and people still voted for him.


This country wanted Trump to be President and people are reluctant to admit it because it would force them to make other declarations also.


Yeha Trump ran no ads and had no ground game :roll:

You are amazing, but at least consistent :lol:

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Hillary Clinton campaigned badly at the end but I don't believe that cost her.

Do you believe anything did? No, probably not, because that would mean reckoning with some serious problems within the party and campaign. Much easier for liberals, the tribunes of rationality, reason, and empiricism, to just say "welp, racists" than confront that THEY FUCKED UP.


Trump by all conventional wisdom ran a terrible campaign. The fact that he won doesn't change that. It is not liberal bias if one chooses to point that out. Most Republicans also believed that too. He still was elected. As much as people are wishing that she wasn't the choice she still was the best choice for Democrats.

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RFDC wrote:
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Wow 7 times more in LA than in Milwaukee...

That is absolutely insane.

Her campaign was s dumpster fire.

I bet somewhere deep inside Ole Bill is happy she lost. He is the only Clinton that has the magic.


Trump ran no ads and had no ground game and people still voted for him. Hillary Clinton campaigned badly at the end but I don't believe that cost her. Trump ran a terrible campaign made a ton of mistakes debated terribly insulted everyone that came to mind and people still voted for him.


This country wanted Trump to be President and people are reluctant to admit it because it would force them to make other declarations also.


Yeha Trump ran no ads and had no ground game :roll:

You are amazing, but at least consistent :lol:


I'm also right.

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The same group that spent the entirety of the campaign bashing Hillary and conveniently ignoring Trump (hence the name Never Trumper) are at it once again.

No, the "Never Trumpers" were on the right: they were the lamewad Bill Buckley disciples who didn't like a rude boor giving away the game by speaking in plain racist terms, and also not opposing Social Security cuts. They did anything but ignore Trump, but they fell in line anyway because of course that's what their Fairfield County bitch asses would do.

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The same group that spent the entirety of the campaign bashing Hillary and conveniently ignoring Trump (hence the name Never Trumper) are at it once again.

No, the "Never Trumpers" were on the right: they were the lamewad Bill Buckley disciples who didn't like a rude boor giving away the game by speaking in plain racist terms, and also not opposing Social Security cuts. They did anything but ignore Trump, but they fell in line anyway because of course that's what their Fairfield County bitch asses would do.


I know who the Never Trumper were. I put a different spin on it and in my message board world a Never Trumper is a person that never speaks about Trump. A number of posters here fit the description.

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Hire Bill James in 2020. However he will predict Kerry Wood wins the Presedential Election.

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I know who the Never Trumper were. I put a different spin on it and in my message board world a Never Trumper is a person that never speaks about Trump. A number of posters here fit the description.


Well, if one guy can privately redefine the fucking lexicon on the fly, I don't stand a chance. Good game guys!

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I know who the Never Trumper were. I put a different spin on it and in my message board world a Never Trumper is a person that never speaks about Trump. A number of posters here fit the description.


Well, if one guy can privately redefine the fucking lexicon on the fly, I don't stand a chance. Good game guys!

:lol:

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Ltg cracked the code that someone here would vote for Trump.

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Numbers lie. Listen to your scouts.


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Yet another reason Theo should be president.

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The campaign's deployment of other resources — including county-level campaign offices and the staging of high-profile concerts with stars like Jay Z and Beyoncé — was largely dependent on Ada's work, as well.

Just gotta requote this. This is the apotheosis of mainstream liberalism: using big data to plan a Beyonce concert. I give up.

This is what drives people away from them....

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